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HardlyNever
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1258 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-07 22:10:08
June 07 2013 22:08 GMT
#241
Just caught up on the manga. The entire time reading it I felt like there is something going on that makes titans related to humans, or possibly are/were humans. Maybe even different representations of human emotions or something.

+ Show Spoiler +
I think it's pretty clear that Connie's town got turned into titans, probably by the "monkey" guy (Whom I agree is probably Eren's dad or related to him in some way). I say this because there is no breach in the wall, yet there were titans inside (but it seems to be a limited amount, most/all of which seem to have been killed at the battle of Utgard castle). It probably was his mother he saw laying on his house (turned into a titan).

As far as what the history behind the kids that can turn into titans, I'm not really sure. I get the sense that they are working for some larger organization (possibly the same organization that runs the wall-worshiping cult) that has some agenda about managing all humanity, possibly through population control. Still a lot of unanswered questions, though. I hope this doesn't turn into some big metaphor thing like "we're all titans inside waiting to be released" or some garbage like that. I'll lose interest pretty quick.
Out there, the Kid learned to fend for himself. Learned to build. Learned to break.
XiGua
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden3085 Posts
June 07 2013 23:49 GMT
#242
What the fuuck was with that last chapter...

I waited a whole month and got fucking nothing explained. :DD::D:D:D:D:DA:SD::D:S:S:S::S: :D:D:D:D:D:D:D
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) APM, Why u make me spam?
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
June 08 2013 13:03 GMT
#243
Okay.

Seriously though this getting a bit out of hand.
I learnt nothing in the latest chapter except the Monkey Titan is possibly the enemy so far.

And seriously what can drive Annie/Berth/Ryner to eliminate the humans within the wall?
You can tell they are forced to do it and are obviously feeling regreted and guilt over this?

Is there some kind of secret organization( the most likely scenario)?
Maybe Eren father is part of this fiasco.


And WHERE IS RIVIALLE?
Need more screentime please.
The definition of pure badass and style.
Play your best
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
June 08 2013 13:24 GMT
#244
On June 08 2013 07:08 HardlyNever wrote:
Just caught up on the manga. The entire time reading it I felt like there is something going on that makes titans related to humans, or possibly are/were humans. Maybe even different representations of human emotions or something.

+ Show Spoiler +
I think it's pretty clear that Connie's town got turned into titans, probably by the "monkey" guy (Whom I agree is probably Eren's dad or related to him in some way). I say this because there is no breach in the wall, yet there were titans inside (but it seems to be a limited amount, most/all of which seem to have been killed at the battle of Utgard castle). It probably was his mother he saw laying on his house (turned into a titan).

As far as what the history behind the kids that can turn into titans, I'm not really sure. I get the sense that they are working for some larger organization (possibly the same organization that runs the wall-worshiping cult) that has some agenda about managing all humanity, possibly through population control. Still a lot of unanswered questions, though. I hope this doesn't turn into some big metaphor thing like "we're all titans inside waiting to be released" or some garbage like that. I'll lose interest pretty quick.


+ Show Spoiler +

Pretty sure the monkey guy can't be Eren's dad. Likely related? Possibly. It's just really clear that the Monkey Dude hasn't been involved with Humanity for a long, long, time -- it's not like 3d gears was a new invention and he had no idea about that (and he'd have seen it).

It's worth looking into their pasts -- they have pretty important flashbacks about that tells them something about their past that I find interesting.

I dunno about "managing all humanity" -- a very important point being the line in this chapter where they ask Ymir if this world has a future. If they're managing all humanity, then I doubt anything like that.

Also, I think the series is actually very heavily metaphorical, starting with the walls and all of that, and that might be the key to analyzing the serie
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
June 08 2013 18:09 GMT
#245
Im on chapter 18 and fairly certain about these human being rotten to the core. There must be something sketchy with these high authorities. Them titans are most definitely created from human, by human

Cant stop reading really :p
julianto
Profile Joined December 2010
2292 Posts
June 08 2013 18:26 GMT
#246
On June 08 2013 07:08 HardlyNever wrote:
Just caught up on the manga. The entire time reading it I felt like there is something going on that makes titans related to humans, or possibly are/were humans. Maybe even different representations of human emotions or something.

+ Show Spoiler +
I think it's pretty clear that Connie's town got turned into titans, probably by the "monkey" guy (Whom I agree is probably Eren's dad or related to him in some way). I say this because there is no breach in the wall, yet there were titans inside (but it seems to be a limited amount, most/all of which seem to have been killed at the battle of Utgard castle). It probably was his mother he saw laying on his house (turned into a titan).

As far as what the history behind the kids that can turn into titans, I'm not really sure. I get the sense that they are working for some larger organization (possibly the same organization that runs the wall-worshiping cult) that has some agenda about managing all humanity, possibly through population control. Still a lot of unanswered questions, though. I hope this doesn't turn into some big metaphor thing like "we're all titans inside waiting to be released" or some garbage like that. I'll lose interest pretty quick.

The monkey titan was surprised humans could talk. Pretty sure it's not Eren's daddy.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
June 08 2013 18:30 GMT
#247
my theory is that the wall isn't there to keep titans out, it's more like the wall + titans are there to keep humans in. there's bound to be something outside that humans haven't seen in the past 100 years.
cool beans
Silencioseu
Profile Joined June 2011
Cyprus493 Posts
June 08 2013 18:32 GMT
#248
On June 09 2013 03:30 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
my theory is that the wall isn't there to keep titans out, it's more like the wall + titans are there to keep humans in. there's bound to be something outside that humans haven't seen in the past 100 years.

That would be a cool turn of things
i kno i r badass no need to repeat
LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
June 08 2013 18:35 GMT
#249
I'm actually wondering if maybe there's humanity outside of the walls.
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
June 08 2013 18:38 GMT
#250
On June 09 2013 03:35 LuckyMacro wrote:
I'm actually wondering if maybe there's humanity outside of the walls.


+ Show Spoiler +

Pretty sure the answer is yes -- should look into Reiner/Berthold's little flashback and Annie's flash back.
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
June 08 2013 18:40 GMT
#251
On June 09 2013 03:32 Silencioseu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 03:30 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
my theory is that the wall isn't there to keep titans out, it's more like the wall + titans are there to keep humans in. there's bound to be something outside that humans haven't seen in the past 100 years.

That would be a cool turn of things


fourth big wall to keep the titans in and from humanity from venturing more out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Taefox
Profile Joined March 2010
1533 Posts
June 08 2013 18:45 GMT
#252
On June 09 2013 03:38 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 03:35 LuckyMacro wrote:
I'm actually wondering if maybe there's humanity outside of the walls.


+ Show Spoiler +

Pretty sure the answer is yes -- should look into Reiner/Berthold's little flashback and Annie's flash back.

+ Show Spoiler +
been long time since the first time i read this manga, could u please tell me which chapters for Reiner Berthold's flashback ? thanks
@taefoxy
julianto
Profile Joined December 2010
2292 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 18:47:45
June 08 2013 18:46 GMT
#253
This manga series better not be like Akagi and stretch on forever T_T
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 19:00:01
June 08 2013 18:54 GMT
#254
On June 09 2013 03:45 Porishan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 03:38 Milkis wrote:
On June 09 2013 03:35 LuckyMacro wrote:
I'm actually wondering if maybe there's humanity outside of the walls.


+ Show Spoiler +

Pretty sure the answer is yes -- should look into Reiner/Berthold's little flashback and Annie's flash back.

+ Show Spoiler +
been long time since the first time i read this manga, could u please tell me which chapters for Reiner Berthold's flashback ? thanks


http://www.batoto.net/read/_/145464/shingeki-no-kyojin_v10_ch40_by_tdx/44

+ Show Spoiler +

Also worth reading is Ymir's monologue that happens right before.

Actually, that entire chapter has a lot of info
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-09 21:35:48
June 08 2013 19:25 GMT
#255
On June 09 2013 03:30 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
my theory is that the wall isn't there to keep titans out, it's more like the wall + titans are there to keep humans in. there's bound to be something outside that humans haven't seen in the past 100 years.


While nobody knows if it was designed to keep the human in, the spoilers on the cover of the manga where people discovered show that + Show Spoiler [major spoiler] +
'the walls were there before human arrived', nobody knows how the walls were built in the first place and it was later showed that titans are inside the walls, the religion guy knows something about it. And humans actually escaped from the outside world into the walls.

DUN DUN DUN
[image loading]
is some old news from about 2 months ago

People found out that the weird language is indeed japanese if you read it upside down:

「巨人の圧倒的な戦力になすすべもなく人類は新天地への航海を
余儀なくされた。このとき人類のほとんどが死滅したが、その大
半は人同士の手によるのであった」

「巨人の出現により住処を失い逃げ惑う人々」

「船に乗れたのはごく少数の権力者達だけであった」

「航海は難航を極め、約半数が目的地に到達することなく消息を絶った」

「新天地にはもともと強大な壁が用意された」

「新大陸、ここを我々は神聖なるものとして崇める」

「この壁の中には人類の理想がある。
この壁の中に永久に争いのない世界をつくろう」

full japanese discussion:
http://d.hatena.ne.jp/toldo13/20100721/p2


I am not sure did anyone mention that here D: the spoiler seems to be pretty huge but obviously nothing official yet showed in the manga, the hints were given by the creator of course.

On June 09 2013 04:30 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 04:25 BurningSera wrote:
On June 09 2013 03:30 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
my theory is that the wall isn't there to keep titans out, it's more like the wall + titans are there to keep humans in. there's bound to be something outside that humans haven't seen in the past 100 years.


While nobody knows if it was designed to keep the human in, the spoilers on the cover of the manga where people discovered show that + Show Spoiler [major spoiler] +
'the walls were there before human arrived', nobody knows how the walls were built in the first place and it was later showed that titans are inside the walls, the religion guy knows something about it. And humans actually escaped from the outside world into the walls.

DUN DUN DUN
[image loading]
is some old news from about 2 months ago

People found out that the weird language is indeed japanese if you read it upside down:

「巨人の圧倒的な戦力になすすべもなく人類は新天地への航海を
余儀なくされた。このとき人類のほとんどが死滅したが、その大
半は人同士の手によるのであった」

「巨人の出現により住処を失い逃げ惑う人々」

「船に乗れたのはごく少数の権力者達だけであった」

「航海は難航を極め、約半数が目的地に到達することなく消息を絶った」

「新天地にはもともと強大な壁が用意された」

「新大陸、ここを我々は神聖なるものとして崇める」

「この壁の中には人類の理想がある。
この壁の中に永久に争いのない世界をつくろう」


I am not sure did anyone mention that here D: the spoiler seems to be pretty huge but obviously nothing official yet showed in the manga, the hints were given by the creator of course.


is there a proper translation of that? D:


I have no idea i read that from jap board. Q_Q and google translate seems messed up. I'll do it roughly,

+ Show Spoiler +
Humans were overwhelmed by the power of titans in the war so they were forced to set sail to find a new world
most of the humans were dead at this stage but it was caused by human themselves.

there were very few of the nobles who got on the ships and the voyage didn't go well while half of the people went MIA.

the walls existed in the new world, the survivors aim to live a peaceful life inside the walls.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
June 08 2013 19:30 GMT
#256
On June 09 2013 04:25 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 03:30 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
my theory is that the wall isn't there to keep titans out, it's more like the wall + titans are there to keep humans in. there's bound to be something outside that humans haven't seen in the past 100 years.


While nobody knows if it was designed to keep the human in, the spoilers on the cover of the manga where people discovered show that + Show Spoiler [major spoiler] +
'the walls were there before human arrived', nobody knows how the walls were built in the first place and it was later showed that titans are inside the walls, the religion guy knows something about it. And humans actually escaped from the outside world into the walls.

DUN DUN DUN
[image loading]
is some old news from about 2 months ago

People found out that the weird language is indeed japanese if you read it upside down:

「巨人の圧倒的な戦力になすすべもなく人類は新天地への航海を
余儀なくされた。このとき人類のほとんどが死滅したが、その大
半は人同士の手によるのであった」

「巨人の出現により住処を失い逃げ惑う人々」

「船に乗れたのはごく少数の権力者達だけであった」

「航海は難航を極め、約半数が目的地に到達することなく消息を絶った」

「新天地にはもともと強大な壁が用意された」

「新大陸、ここを我々は神聖なるものとして崇める」

「この壁の中には人類の理想がある。
この壁の中に永久に争いのない世界をつくろう」


I am not sure did anyone mention that here D: the spoiler seems to be pretty huge but obviously nothing official yet showed in the manga, the hints were given by the creator of course.


is there a proper translation of that? D:
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 19:39:25
June 08 2013 19:38 GMT
#257
On June 09 2013 04:30 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 04:25 BurningSera wrote:
On June 09 2013 03:30 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
my theory is that the wall isn't there to keep titans out, it's more like the wall + titans are there to keep humans in. there's bound to be something outside that humans haven't seen in the past 100 years.


While nobody knows if it was designed to keep the human in, the spoilers on the cover of the manga where people discovered show that + Show Spoiler [major spoiler] +
'the walls were there before human arrived', nobody knows how the walls were built in the first place and it was later showed that titans are inside the walls, the religion guy knows something about it. And humans actually escaped from the outside world into the walls.

DUN DUN DUN
[image loading]
is some old news from about 2 months ago

People found out that the weird language is indeed japanese if you read it upside down:

「巨人の圧倒的な戦力になすすべもなく人類は新天地への航海を
余儀なくされた。このとき人類のほとんどが死滅したが、その大
半は人同士の手によるのであった」

「巨人の出現により住処を失い逃げ惑う人々」

「船に乗れたのはごく少数の権力者達だけであった」

「航海は難航を極め、約半数が目的地に到達することなく消息を絶った」

「新天地にはもともと強大な壁が用意された」

「新大陸、ここを我々は神聖なるものとして崇める」

「この壁の中には人類の理想がある。
この壁の中に永久に争いのない世界をつくろう」


I am not sure did anyone mention that here D: the spoiler seems to be pretty huge but obviously nothing official yet showed in the manga, the hints were given by the creator of course.


is there a proper translation of that? D:


I have no idea i read that from jap board. Q_Q and google translate seems messed up. I'll do it roughly,

+ Show Spoiler +
Humans were overwhelmed by the power of titans in the war so they were forced to set sail to find a new world
most of the humans were dead at this stage but it was caused by human themselves.

there were very few of the nobles who got on the ships and the voyage didn't go well while half of the people went MIA.

the walls existed in the new world, the survivors aim to live a peaceful life inside the walls.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5225 Posts
June 08 2013 19:44 GMT
#258
I tried reading this a while back but got some questions I hope you guys can answer.

It was stated multiple times that the titans body (and bodyparts) being extremely light. How come whenever they fall on the ground or against another object, the impacts leave behind huge craters and generated large amount of force?

If the titans are as light as they said, shouldn't the giant titans not be able to move/walk around at all since his the wind would basically make him a giant sail? Why didn't humanity just make giant fans to combat them instead of cannons?
julianto
Profile Joined December 2010
2292 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 19:53:06
June 08 2013 19:52 GMT
#259
On June 09 2013 04:44 XCetron wrote:
I tried reading this a while back but got some questions I hope you guys can answer.

It was stated multiple times that the titans body (and bodyparts) being extremely light. How come whenever they fall on the ground or against another object, the impacts leave behind huge craters and generated large amount of force?

If the titans are as light as they said, shouldn't the giant titans not be able to move/walk around at all since his the wind would basically make him a giant sail? Why didn't humanity just make giant fans to combat them instead of cannons?

If the bodies were really that light, no titans should be able to smash down the walls. If they were light, they should not have as much mass as they look.
So I'm going to assume this is something the reader has to overlook. Kind of like how heroes can carry a ton of items in a small bag in RPG video games.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5225 Posts
June 08 2013 20:00 GMT
#260
On June 09 2013 04:52 julianto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 04:44 XCetron wrote:
I tried reading this a while back but got some questions I hope you guys can answer.

It was stated multiple times that the titans body (and bodyparts) being extremely light. How come whenever they fall on the ground or against another object, the impacts leave behind huge craters and generated large amount of force?

If the titans are as light as they said, shouldn't the giant titans not be able to move/walk around at all since his the wind would basically make him a giant sail? Why didn't humanity just make giant fans to combat them instead of cannons?

If the bodies were really that light, no titans should be able to smash down the walls. If they were light, they should not have as much mass as they look.
So I'm going to assume this is something the reader has to overlook. Kind of like how heroes can carry a ton of items in a small bag in RPG video games.



I actually liked the manga before they started contradicting things they said over and over. The titans' properties being more obvious but not the only things.
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