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sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
February 18 2013 08:30 GMT
#701
haha! the mad dream of the former sociology major... to predict all of history with an equation of perfect elegance! only to be foiled again by... the mule! the black swan! the horror of the Real! The center cannot hold!
shikata ga nai
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
February 18 2013 08:36 GMT
#702
On February 18 2013 17:30 sam!zdat wrote:
haha! the mad dream of the former sociology major... to predict all of history with an equation of perfect elegance! only to be foiled again by... the mule! the black swan! the horror of the Real! The center cannot hold!

I gotta admit though, the Hegelian Dialectic seems pretty good at predicting history, not perfectly though.
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 08:41:23
February 18 2013 08:40 GMT
#703
On February 18 2013 17:30 sam!zdat wrote:
haha! the mad dream of the former sociology major... to predict all of history with an equation of perfect elegance! only to be foiled again by... the mule! the black swan! the horror of the Real! The center cannot hold!


Haha! It is a mad dream. Still, sometimes those are the best ones; the ones you don't want to wake from.
KT best KT ~ 2014
Oaky
Profile Joined August 2012
United States95 Posts
February 18 2013 08:46 GMT
#704
Just started reading Steve Jobs autobiography by Walter Isaacson today, about a fourth thru it is extremely fascinating.

Also about half way thru The Hobbit.

Also just began the Game of Thrones series

Plus some other calculus, physics, programming books.

Get a nook they are amazing.
SOOOOOOO MANY BANELINGS!
Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2670 Posts
February 18 2013 10:07 GMT
#705
On February 18 2013 05:20 Shiori wrote:
Since we're discussing the merits of various translations versus the original language, could anyone recommend the best way to learn a language (and yeah I know that's a loaded question)? I find that I don't struggle very much with the structure of a new language, but have a really hard time building up a vocabulary. Would I be best served to simply read an X-English dictionary for a given language? Anyone have any good Latin/Italian/Russian/French books for learning those languages? It's a bit off-topic, but I ask because languages seem to be the tread of discussion at the moment.


If you want to learn a language for reading, do a load of reading. There's a book called Lingua Trek (iirc) which you can get free online which is by a guy who learnt Polish by reading. I haven't looked at it myself but it's been recommended to me. Start with kids books or comics (anything to reduce the word count) and work your way up (like you did with your native language).

Getting enough words to read a foreign novel in is kinda difficult so you may need to pick up an Assimil or Teach Yourself book.

There are free sites like LingQ which is free and teaches you words through reading which is probably the best way to go if you're not fussed about talking. Using SRS to learn the 1000/2000 most common words will help too. If you're not generating words (speaking, writing) you won't really need to bother with Grammar for the first few months/ever.

Just remember, if a book is hard to read in your first language, it's going to be hard to read even if you're fluent in the second language. Learning Language X to learn Classic Author Y is going to be a long pursuit. Sure you may be able to understand it, but to see what makes the books great takes a real mastery over the language.

If you want to learn to speak (which it doesn't sound like you're bothered about) you can PM me and I'll tell you what's working for me.
Liquipedia"I was seriously looking for a black guy" - MrHoon
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
February 18 2013 20:12 GMT
#706
Froggy! Froggy! DeepElemBlues has just explained what a quasi-object is, without even meaning to!

On February 19 2013 05:06 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Show nested quote +
Oh I think I get it.


No, you don't. Here's the first half: your focus on the "science" is commendable, but climate change is not about science. It is all about political science. Climate change is an abstraction the way you speak of it and the way most people speak of it here. Because telling people they - not the elite, mind you, who are so in touch with "science," not them, but the masses - that they must accept a more expensive yet also poorer life for the rest of their lives is a matter of political science, which is the reason you are quite negative on political science in America. Not a shared sacrifice for a few years, with the promise of artificial scarcity ending and things being better than ever once the end of the tunnel is reached.

The second half is almost as obvious but is much broader than the simple truth you prefer not to look at because it, like the truths of the second half, rest on the my side of the river, not yours


get it now??
shikata ga nai
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
February 18 2013 20:21 GMT
#707
On February 19 2013 05:12 sam!zdat wrote:
Froggy! Froggy! DeepElemBlues has just explained what a quasi-object is, without even meaning to!

Show nested quote +
On February 19 2013 05:06 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Oh I think I get it.


No, you don't. Here's the first half: your focus on the "science" is commendable, but climate change is not about science. It is all about political science. Climate change is an abstraction the way you speak of it and the way most people speak of it here. Because telling people they - not the elite, mind you, who are so in touch with "science," not them, but the masses - that they must accept a more expensive yet also poorer life for the rest of their lives is a matter of political science, which is the reason you are quite negative on political science in America. Not a shared sacrifice for a few years, with the promise of artificial scarcity ending and things being better than ever once the end of the tunnel is reached.

The second half is almost as obvious but is much broader than the simple truth you prefer not to look at because it, like the truths of the second half, rest on the my side of the river, not yours


get it now??


Can I borrow your crystal ball?

Currently reading Agincourt. Henry V = one of the biggest badasses of all time.
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
February 18 2013 20:22 GMT
#708
On February 19 2013 05:21 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Can I borrow your crystal ball?


sorry bro it's already calibrated to my aura, you wouldn't be able to use it
shikata ga nai
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
February 18 2013 20:24 GMT
#709
On February 19 2013 05:22 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2013 05:21 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Can I borrow your crystal ball?


sorry bro it's already calibrated to my aura, you wouldn't be able to use it


You must have one of the old ones, you need to upgrade. The new ones got like 18 aura ports. Plus, TWO USB ports!
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
frogrubdown
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
1266 Posts
February 18 2013 22:36 GMT
#710
On February 19 2013 05:12 sam!zdat wrote:
Froggy! Froggy! DeepElemBlues has just explained what a quasi-object is, without even meaning to!

Show nested quote +
On February 19 2013 05:06 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Oh I think I get it.


No, you don't. Here's the first half: your focus on the "science" is commendable, but climate change is not about science. It is all about political science. Climate change is an abstraction the way you speak of it and the way most people speak of it here. Because telling people they - not the elite, mind you, who are so in touch with "science," not them, but the masses - that they must accept a more expensive yet also poorer life for the rest of their lives is a matter of political science, which is the reason you are quite negative on political science in America. Not a shared sacrifice for a few years, with the promise of artificial scarcity ending and things being better than ever once the end of the tunnel is reached.

The second half is almost as obvious but is much broader than the simple truth you prefer not to look at because it, like the truths of the second half, rest on the my side of the river, not yours


get it now??


I've gotten the impression (and maybe this is derived in part from later Latour works) that Latour's claims about quasi-objects are not simply that some objects count as borderline cases between social objects and natural objects requiring a third category. Instead, it seemed he was denying the tenability of thinking of natural objects at all; everything is a quasi-object. This might not be his view in We Have Never Been Modern, but I'm somewhat confident that he at least moved toward it later on.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
February 18 2013 22:41 GMT
#711
I can't say about his later work, and like I say I think his theory is totally inadequate. But that IS what he's trying to talk about.
shikata ga nai
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
February 18 2013 22:59 GMT
#712
Just finished:

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Going to begin:

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Really liked Jurassic Park. There are many differences from the movie, so, kept me very entertained.
~ The Ultimate Weapon
Surth
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Germany456 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 23:03:38
February 18 2013 23:02 GMT
#713
It seems everything from france starting with an L is dumbfounding to me. First Lacan, now Latour. And always with the objects these two!


ot: made a quick stop at Asimov - Foundation, which is pretty good i guess, but not what i expected at all, seemed very... basic?
i believe your actions dishonour Starcraft 2 LotV cybersport!
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
February 18 2013 23:21 GMT
#714
I'm about 1/4th thru the 5th Game of Thrones book..finding it a bit slow so far. Is he doing a Robert Jordan with his series?

Also looking for something nice to read next. I like most everything except crime.
ModeratorFather of bunnies
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 23:49:04
February 18 2013 23:47 GMT
#715
On February 19 2013 08:02 Surth wrote:
It seems everything from france starting with an L is dumbfounding to me. First Lacan, now Latour. And always with the objects these two!


Oh dear, please don't equate Lacan and Latour... Lacan is a flipping genius.


ot: made a quick stop at Asimov - Foundation, which is pretty good i guess, but not what i expected at all, seemed very... basic?


yup. Welcome to golden age science fiction!

On February 19 2013 08:21 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
I'm about 1/4th thru the 5th Game of Thrones book..finding it a bit slow so far. Is he doing a Robert Jordan with his series?


afraid so. Why write the number of books you were originally gonna write, when you can pad it out with boringness and make double the money?


Also looking for something nice to read next. I like most everything except crime.


You should read Red Mars!
http://www.amazon.com/Red-Mars-Trilogy-Stanley-Robinson/dp/0553560735
shikata ga nai
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
February 18 2013 23:59 GMT
#716
Thanks, on order now What about green/blue mars? Are they good as well?
ModeratorFather of bunnies
Syn Harvest
Profile Joined July 2012
United States191 Posts
February 19 2013 00:02 GMT
#717
I really like book 5 it gets way more exciting in the second half of book 5. The beginning half is alot of introduction of new characters and plot lines. I think it really picks up in the latter half.

On to my own situation I just finished book 2 of The First Law Trilogy and it was very good the ending was awesome alot of unexpected twists there at the end. Im just about to start book 3 and I have high hopes if it is anything like the first 2
Open your heart and embrace the darkness
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
February 19 2013 00:04 GMT
#718
On February 19 2013 08:59 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
Thanks, on order now What about green/blue mars? Are they good as well?


the best! it's really all one novel, and it is in my humble (haha) opinion the greatest science fiction novel EVAR. the very beginning of red mars is by far the slowest part, so give it some time to gather steam. I hope you like it!
shikata ga nai
Surth
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Germany456 Posts
February 19 2013 00:31 GMT
#719
I should also point out that Hopscotch by Julio Cortazar is one of the greatest novels ever written. Everyone in this thread should buy it henceforth!
i believe your actions dishonour Starcraft 2 LotV cybersport!
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
February 19 2013 00:35 GMT
#720
^I added it to my cart
shikata ga nai
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