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Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
July 15 2013 12:21 GMT
#501
just saw it.
plot sucks. acting was cringy and cheesy as hell.

robots vs monsters made everything worth watching.
3/5 wud watch it again.
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zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
July 15 2013 16:30 GMT
#502
Guillermo del Toro pulling a Christopher Nolan, so no director's cut. What a waste of extra footage. I'm sure fans would have loved to see it.

In a previous interview, "Pacific Rim" director Guillermo del Toro revealed that he cut over 10 minutes from the film after sitting and going through his kaiju epic with directors Alfonso Cuarón and Alejandro Iñárritu. However, del Toro insists that the film released in theaters is his preferred version in an interview with BleedingCool. "This is my director’s cut. There will not be an extended cut right now, we’re not planning on it, but there will be deleted scenes and they were deleted for a reason," said del Toro.

The director also revealed that he filmed three different ending for the film in a separate interview with BadAss Digest, including one that insinuated that the characters portrayed by Charlie Hunnam and Rinko Kikuchi would embark on a romantic relationship. But del Toro didn't think that was the right action to take for the jaeger partners. "When I was working on the movie we had three or four different versions of the relationship between Charlie and Rinko because I wanted to see if I could make a story about two people liking each other without having to end in a kiss," the director stated. He continued, "So when I shot the ending we shot three versions. I’ve never done this before, but instinctively I thought we should do three versions. We did one version where they kiss and it almost felt weird. They’re good friends, they’re pals, good colleagues."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 15 2013 16:35 GMT
#503
On July 16 2013 01:30 zoLo wrote:
Guillermo del Toro pulling a Christopher Nolan, so no director's cut. What a waste of extra footage. I'm sure fans would have loved to see it.

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In a previous interview, "Pacific Rim" director Guillermo del Toro revealed that he cut over 10 minutes from the film after sitting and going through his kaiju epic with directors Alfonso Cuarón and Alejandro Iñárritu. However, del Toro insists that the film released in theaters is his preferred version in an interview with BleedingCool. "This is my director’s cut. There will not be an extended cut right now, we’re not planning on it, but there will be deleted scenes and they were deleted for a reason," said del Toro.

The director also revealed that he filmed three different ending for the film in a separate interview with BadAss Digest, including one that insinuated that the characters portrayed by Charlie Hunnam and Rinko Kikuchi would embark on a romantic relationship. But del Toro didn't think that was the right action to take for the jaeger partners. "When I was working on the movie we had three or four different versions of the relationship between Charlie and Rinko because I wanted to see if I could make a story about two people liking each other without having to end in a kiss," the director stated. He continued, "So when I shot the ending we shot three versions. I’ve never done this before, but instinctively I thought we should do three versions. We did one version where they kiss and it almost felt weird. They’re good friends, they’re pals, good colleagues."

Well the extra footage likely wouldn't be of crazy robot fights. They generally do not cut that stuff, since it cost so much to make. But it will be neat to see the deleted scenes.

I like the part about the endings. I felt the ending for the movie was the best possible and didn't have the "kiss" at the end. A platonic relationship for the two of them is far more intresting if they do future movies.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-15 17:20:18
July 15 2013 16:39 GMT
#504
On July 16 2013 01:35 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 01:30 zoLo wrote:
Guillermo del Toro pulling a Christopher Nolan, so no director's cut. What a waste of extra footage. I'm sure fans would have loved to see it.

In a previous interview, "Pacific Rim" director Guillermo del Toro revealed that he cut over 10 minutes from the film after sitting and going through his kaiju epic with directors Alfonso Cuarón and Alejandro Iñárritu. However, del Toro insists that the film released in theaters is his preferred version in an interview with BleedingCool. "This is my director’s cut. There will not be an extended cut right now, we’re not planning on it, but there will be deleted scenes and they were deleted for a reason," said del Toro.

The director also revealed that he filmed three different ending for the film in a separate interview with BadAss Digest, including one that insinuated that the characters portrayed by Charlie Hunnam and Rinko Kikuchi would embark on a romantic relationship. But del Toro didn't think that was the right action to take for the jaeger partners. "When I was working on the movie we had three or four different versions of the relationship between Charlie and Rinko because I wanted to see if I could make a story about two people liking each other without having to end in a kiss," the director stated. He continued, "So when I shot the ending we shot three versions. I’ve never done this before, but instinctively I thought we should do three versions. We did one version where they kiss and it almost felt weird. They’re good friends, they’re pals, good colleagues."

Well the extra footage likely wouldn't be of crazy robot fights. They generally do not cut that stuff, since it cost so much to make. But it will be neat to see the deleted scenes.

I like the part about the endings. I felt the ending for the movie was the best possible and didn't have the "kiss" at the end. A platonic relationship for the two of them is far more intresting if they do future movies.


Well, I personally am not just looking forward to more fights, but more character development. Yeah yeah it's a robot movie, but I don't care. I thought more character development would have been great. Having more screen time with the Chinese and Russian pilots would have be nice. It would have made the more more impactful when you had character to care about. I personally didn't care for Becket and I would have been fine if he died in the beginning with his brother. The only character that was developed okay was Mako and Pentecost.

I like the ending too since it made it feel less forced unlike so many movies now days.
dogmode
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Philippines491 Posts
July 15 2013 16:49 GMT
#505
seriously, watch this film! its FUN and action packed! don't look for anything deep or profound, its just very good entertainment
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - KuroKy
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 15 2013 18:30 GMT
#506
I enjoyed the hell out of this movie, the bit with the newton's cradle was absolutely amazing.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
July 15 2013 20:42 GMT
#507
this movie was awesome. it delivered exactly what it promised.

+ Show Spoiler +
THE DINOSAURS WERE ALIENS
THEY FOUGHT A DINOSAUR IN A ROBOT WITH A SWORD IN SPACE
THEY HIT THAT ONE MONSTER WITH A BOAT


ELBOW ROCKETS

"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Klondikebar
Profile Joined October 2011
United States2227 Posts
July 15 2013 20:46 GMT
#508
I loved the visuals and action of the movie. But god that writing has to be some of the laziest I have seen in a long long time. Every single character and event in the movie is a cookie cutter trope with absolutely no depth or deviation. Within the first few minutes of meeting each new character you already know everything there is to know about them and you know exactly what will happen to them as the movie progresses.

If you took out the humans the movie would be awesome.
#2throwed
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 15 2013 21:11 GMT
#509
On July 16 2013 05:46 Klondikebar wrote:
I loved the visuals and action of the movie. But god that writing has to be some of the laziest I have seen in a long long time. Every single character and event in the movie is a cookie cutter trope with absolutely no depth or deviation. Within the first few minutes of meeting each new character you already know everything there is to know about them and you know exactly what will happen to them as the movie progresses.

If you took out the humans the movie would be awesome.

You do know that was intential, right? Guillermo del Toro said that you don't write a movie like this without including all the "critical characters". You have washed out pilot and the rookie with the perfect simluator score, who parents also happened to have been killed by the monsters. The movie is hammy on purpose and doesn't take itself that seriously. You don't write the line "For my family!" before they cut the monster in half with a giant sword and expect it to be taken seriously.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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renoB
Profile Joined June 2012
United States170 Posts
July 15 2013 21:22 GMT
#510
On July 16 2013 05:42 strongandbig wrote:
this movie was awesome. it delivered exactly what it promised.

+ Show Spoiler +
THE DINOSAURS WERE ALIENS
THEY FOUGHT A DINOSAUR IN A ROBOT WITH A SWORD IN SPACE
THEY HIT THAT ONE MONSTER WITH A BOAT


ELBOW ROCKETS



A 1000x everything you said. Especially the last one.
alainysaur
Profile Joined September 2012
United States131 Posts
July 15 2013 21:23 GMT
#511
Lol! I just saw this movie last night and I have to say it was fun as hell - lots of explosions and Kaiju guts. The plot ... is almost non-existent. Acting is hilarious even when they're being serious. I loved hearing the black guy's accent change from American to British and then Japanese when he speaks to the Japanese girl. Also, watching the main guy awkwardly maneuver his fighting stick ... sigh .. you can tell he can't dance.

ah wow. It was hammy but like what others have said here, I don't think they cared much on that part.

Bright spots of the movie include:

Bad ass bulldog
Goodlooking actors
Disgusting kaiju fetus eating hellboy
Klondikebar
Profile Joined October 2011
United States2227 Posts
July 15 2013 21:25 GMT
#512
On July 16 2013 06:11 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 05:46 Klondikebar wrote:
I loved the visuals and action of the movie. But god that writing has to be some of the laziest I have seen in a long long time. Every single character and event in the movie is a cookie cutter trope with absolutely no depth or deviation. Within the first few minutes of meeting each new character you already know everything there is to know about them and you know exactly what will happen to them as the movie progresses.

If you took out the humans the movie would be awesome.

You do know that was intential, right? Guillermo del Toro said that you don't write a movie like this without including all the "critical characters". You have washed out pilot and the rookie with the perfect simluator score, who parents also happened to have been killed by the monsters. The movie is hammy on purpose and doesn't take itself that seriously. You don't write the line "For my family!" before they cut the monster in half with a giant sword and expect it to be taken seriously.


Yeah I know it was supposed to be in the spirit of a cheesy low budget Kaiju film. But the problem is that we laugh and enjoy those movies cause with their budgets (and usually shaky translations from the Japanese) they can't do any better. You enjoy it for what it is because you know it can't be anything else.

High budget American films with talented directors can't really pull that off in my mind because, even though I'm aware of the genre to which it is paying homage, I can't get the idea out of my head that it could be better. Deliberately being bad doesn't make a movie good. And when a movie is deliberately bad when it clearly could have been better, it doesn't even ironically appeal to me.

If you enjoyed the movie, more power to you. There were definitely things about it I enjoyed. The writing was not one of them.
#2throwed
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 15 2013 21:36 GMT
#513
IM SEEING THIS TONIGHT IN IMAX!

Any thing I should be aware of?
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
July 15 2013 22:02 GMT
#514
This movie was great fun. Go and see it, possibly twice.

+ Show Spoiler +
Plot-wise, it was a mix of Independence day (colonist aliens nuked) and Top Gun (burnout, iceman, and the guru) (and where have I seen that scientist plot...). But who cares, the story was so rich in detail about the universe, and the monsters and mechs were incredibly detailed (dat ankle) that you'll enjoy it immensely and keep filling the holes in the narration with your own thoughts about how it should work. And the best bit, it was all original. You watch the mechas, and you don't think Gundam, or Eva, or whatnot. You watch the monsters, and you don't think Godzilla or Jurassic Park or Cloverfield. You're thinking about Pacific Rim, or cringing because when a 25 foot monster stares down at you, you cannot help yourself.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
July 15 2013 22:05 GMT
#515
On July 16 2013 06:11 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 05:46 Klondikebar wrote:
I loved the visuals and action of the movie. But god that writing has to be some of the laziest I have seen in a long long time. Every single character and event in the movie is a cookie cutter trope with absolutely no depth or deviation. Within the first few minutes of meeting each new character you already know everything there is to know about them and you know exactly what will happen to them as the movie progresses.

If you took out the humans the movie would be awesome.

You do know that was intential, right? Guillermo del Toro said that you don't write a movie like this without including all the "critical characters". You have washed out pilot and the rookie with the perfect simluator score, who parents also happened to have been killed by the monsters. The movie is hammy on purpose and doesn't take itself that seriously. You don't write the line "For my family!" before they cut the monster in half with a giant sword and expect it to be taken seriously.

Super Robot Taisen style!!!
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3393 Posts
July 15 2013 22:36 GMT
#516
On July 16 2013 06:36 Torte de Lini wrote:
IM SEEING THIS TONIGHT IN IMAX!

Any thing I should be aware of?

Yea, you might get a real bad headache. But it'll be WORTH IT
Cutlery
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway565 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-15 22:51:20
July 15 2013 22:50 GMT
#517
Saw it and it was great. Lot's of action, good characters, and while I kept thinking it would get cheesy, it never did. Enjoyed it pretty much from start to end. Maybe a couple cringe worthy moments, that lasted for only a few seconds.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 15 2013 22:52 GMT
#518
On July 16 2013 07:36 riotjune wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 06:36 Torte de Lini wrote:
IM SEEING THIS TONIGHT IN IMAX!

Any thing I should be aware of?

Yea, you might get a real bad headache. But it'll be WORTH IT


too loud?
I have AVX at my theater, but its killer to the ears.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3393 Posts
July 15 2013 23:22 GMT
#519
On July 16 2013 07:52 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 07:36 riotjune wrote:
On July 16 2013 06:36 Torte de Lini wrote:
IM SEEING THIS TONIGHT IN IMAX!

Any thing I should be aware of?

Yea, you might get a real bad headache. But it'll be WORTH IT


too loud?
I have AVX at my theater, but its killer to the ears.

I thought it was from the visuals, but it could very well have been from the lack of sleep (hey I was excited, I'm a giant robot fan and this was the movie I've been waiting for).

Saw both versions and I would have to say it's much better in IMAX since you get a sense of the monsters' and mechas' huge size with them towering right over you and all you can do is look up and stare in awe. I think this was most evident with Cherno Alpha with its bigass fists coming out of the screen, I was thinking "That is one fucking huge mecha" throughout that fight.

I might also go for the "inferior" 3D version later on so I will be 3 for 3.
MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-15 23:55:44
July 15 2013 23:55 GMT
#520
On July 16 2013 06:36 Torte de Lini wrote:
IM SEEING THIS TONIGHT IN IMAX!

Any thing I should be aware of?


Its an action movie... about giant fucking robots punching giant fucking aliens in the face.

There are people who have to drive the robots.


If you expect more than what this movie is offering/trying to deliver.. u might not be pleased.

if you go in expecting to see giant fucking robots punching giant aliens...and enjoy all of the awsomeness of 500,000 tons fist fighting... this will be an amazing experience.

If you are going, thinking you are going to be witness to the next masterpiece of film narrative/character development... you are dumb and going to hate it. (specifically because the Director set out to NOT attempt this.)
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