EPTI wonder if they stopped short of destroying Coruscant for some studio mandated reason. It really looks like it was set up for it to look like that was what is being destroyed.
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
I wonder if they stopped short of destroying Coruscant for some studio mandated reason. It really looks like it was set up for it to look like that was what is being destroyed. | ||
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Foxxan
Sweden3427 Posts
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NukeD
Croatia1612 Posts
On December 23 2015 17:38 Foxxan wrote: I wanted so much more of max von sydow. Anyone else feels the same? I didn't even notice he was in the film. | ||
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
He was at the very beginning, the old dude giving the key to BB8 | ||
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TerransHill
Germany572 Posts
Wouldn't such a terminal be in some kind of tower where alot of people work ( like in an airport )? It actually should be in the big control room where general ginger spends most of his time. Or are there just tons of terminals all around the station from where you can deactivate the shields?? This is such lazy writing, it hurts. They could as well just not mention the shields at all. | ||
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
On December 23 2015 19:51 TerransHill wrote: Anyone else think that the whole scene where they force Phasma to deactivate the shields is kinda funny? The terminal is in a small room where noone is working and they manage to bring her there without anyone noticing. Wouldn't such a terminal be in some kind of tower where alot of people work ( like in an airport )? It actually should be in the big control room where general ginger spends most of his time. Or are there just tons of terminals all around the station from where you can deactivate the shields?? This is such lazy writing, it hurts. They could as well just not mention the shields at all. I agree. Also she's the leader of the Stormtroopers and willingly deactivates the shield? No fight? No subtle trap? Just "Ok here ya go. They are off, Have a good day" Lame | ||
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kwizach
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NukeD
Croatia1612 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22050 Posts
On December 23 2015 17:29 eviltomahawk wrote: From what I understand from the art books and the novelization, the Resistance is way smaller than even the Rebel Alliance. The New Republic, which I'm sure still has a variety of ships, only tolerates the Resistance and doesn't even support them much, if at all. So it makes sense that the Restance would have to rely on a small fleet of the most well-rounded fighter that they could field. But then why is the New Republic allowing the First Order to exist in peace. Surely those 2 factions should be at war? The Order are the remnants of the Empire after all. | ||
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NukeD
Croatia1612 Posts
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Oshuy
Netherlands529 Posts
On December 23 2015 20:43 Gorsameth wrote: But then why is the New Republic allowing the First Order to exist in peace. Surely those 2 factions should be at war? The Order are the remnants of the Empire after all. First Order is supposed to be a new player growing fast, coming from the "unknown regions" and building on scattered remnants of the Empire. They developped outside of New Republic borders and probably became visible only when they moved in the "outer rim", already organized. The senate is still discussing on the best course of action when it gets destroyed (their inaction triggers the creation of the Resistance by Leia). Why didn't the New Republic manage to keep an eye on Empire remnants and why didn't they get information about the First Order faster ? My guess is they ran out of Bothans during the Endor war. | ||
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
On December 23 2015 21:07 Oshuy wrote: First Order is supposed to be a new player growing fast, coming from the "unknown regions" and building on scattered remnants of the Empire. They developped outside of New Republic borders and probably became visible only when they moved in the "outer rim", already organized. The senate is still discussing on the best course of action when it gets destroyed (their inaction triggers the creation of the Resistance by Leia). Why didn't the New Republic manage to keep an eye on Empire remnants and why didn't they get information about the First Order faster ? My guess is they ran out of Bothans during the Endor war. How the heck is anyone supposed to know this from the movie? All I know is that there is something called "First Order" with a big gun and a big flagship, a "Republic" with god-knows-what and a "Resistance" with a dozen X-Wings. | ||
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
On December 23 2015 20:08 Orcasgt24 wrote: I agree. Also she's the leader of the Stormtroopers and willingly deactivates the shield? No fight? No subtle trap? Just "Ok here ya go. They are off, Have a good day" Lame I was really expecting the ol' switcharoo when they weren't paying attention to her. Have her fake the whole thing then boom regiment of Storm Troopers pop in and they really write the cast into a corner. I'm still mulling everything over in my head though. | ||
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Rookie6
Brazil583 Posts
I mean, I understand people don´t liking some things, but it doesn´t make sense when you are treating it as something exclusive of TFA. Talking about "mind rape", I saw someone saying Kylo is the first one to do it and it looked OP. Vader against Luke in ep VI discovers about Leia being his sister in the middle of the fight. He isn´t even seeing Luke, Luke is already a trained Jedi and isn´t tied up in a chair. I would say that is way more impressive. About Rey having lightsaber skills without training them, it is never shown Luke practicing with the lightsaber against another lightsaber user. His whole training with Yoda is about mastering the Force, more of a mental training, and he goes toe to toe against Vader! (ep VI). He had some experience against "normal" foes though... But for me, this can mean that duel skill is also related to how much control and understanding of the force you have, not only just practicing fencing. I think the one thing that I would change in the last fight is making Kylo´s wound more evident, but I only saw the movie once so far, so I have to see it again to have a more precise opinion. People here are also ignoring that the guy just killed his father a few minutes ago and they spent the whole movie saying how emotionally unstable he was. I also read a theory that when Rey is concentrating she is actually getting in Kylo´s mind again (which is the one trick she learned during the movie) and absorbs some of his fighting know how. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22050 Posts
On December 23 2015 21:50 Rookie6 wrote: Am I the only one who thinks that most of these nitpicks don´t make much sense when people ignore the OT? I mean, I understand people don´t liking some things, but it doesn´t make sense when you are treating it as something exclusive of TFA. Talking about "mind rape", I saw someone saying Kylo is the first one to do it and it looked OP. Vader against Luke in ep VI discovers about Leia being his sister in the middle of the fight. He isn´t even seeing Luke, Luke is already a trained Jedi and isn´t tied up in a chair. I would say that is way more impressive. About Rey having lightsaber skills without training them, it is never shown Luke practicing with the lightsaber against another lightsaber user. His whole training with Yoda is about mastering the Force, more of a mental training, and he goes toe to toe against Vader! (ep VI). He had some experience against "normal" foes though... But for me, this can mean that duel skill is also related to how much control and understanding of the force you have, not only just practicing fencing. I think the one thing that I would change in the last fight is making Kylo´s wound more evident, but I only saw the movie once so far, so I have to see it again to have a more precise opinion. People here are also ignoring that the guy just killed his father a few minutes ago and they spent the whole movie saying how emotionally unstable he was. I also read a theory that when Rey is concentrating she is actually getting in Kylo´s mind again (which is the one trick she learned during the movie) and absorbs some of his fighting know how. For Luke we are atleast shown him practicing with his saber on board the Falcon with Ben. Rey is proficient from the moment she first touches a saber. Those small scenes show character development that lets us fill in the blanks ourselves. | ||
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Rookie6
Brazil583 Posts
On December 23 2015 22:02 Gorsameth wrote: For Luke we are atleast shown him practicing with his saber on board the Falcon with Ben. Rey is proficient from the moment she first touches a saber. Those small scenes show character development that lets us fill in the blanks ourselves. I don´t know... it was shown him deflecting laser shots, not dueling, and I can easily say "at least we were shown Rey fighting those two guys in Jakku with her staff" and that scene had the same objective of "filling the blanks" that she has great dueling skills with a melee weapon. I can understand where you are coming from, but I don´t agree. | ||
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Timelog
Netherlands57 Posts
I think the one thing that I would change in the last fight is making Kylo´s wound more evident, but I only saw the movie once so far, so I have to see it again to have a more precise opinion Well, they did try that, He keeps hitting the spot where he got hit, possibly to anger himself, but also to "numb" it.I also read a theory that when Rey is concentrating she is actually getting in Kylo´s mind again (which is the one trick she learned during the movie) and absorbs some of his fighting know how. I am quite sure that that is the case, because right before she does the whole concentrating part he basically offers her to train her. I think at that point he, possibly subconsciously, opens his mind to her, allowing her to tap into his knowledge. | ||
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
On December 23 2015 22:02 Gorsameth wrote: For Luke we are atleast shown him practicing with his saber on board the Falcon with Ben. Rey is proficient from the moment she first touches a saber. Those small scenes show character development that lets us fill in the blanks ourselves. Playing Devil's Advocate here, but she is shown as being proficient with her staff. I wouldn't say that is 1:1 for training the saber skills, but it isn't General Jar Jar. | ||
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Rookie6
Brazil583 Posts
On December 23 2015 22:17 Timelog wrote: Well, they did try that, He keeps hitting the spot where he got hit, possibly to anger himself, but also to "numb" it. I am quite sure that that is the case, because right before she does the whole concentrating part he basically offers her to train her. I think at that point he, possibly subconsciously, opens his mind to her, allowing her to tap into his knowledge. It´s just that I wouldn´t mind some more blood dropping from him, but I have to watch it again. Not a bid deal after all though. And I quite like this theory, since they emphasize Rey´s mental skills a lot during the movie. And downgrade Kylo´s... | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
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