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N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
September 15 2012 03:58 GMT
#281
Ok I need to talk to somebody about this.....I just watched 2.0 for the first time (was trying to put it off after 1.0 till all 4, but fuck it couldn't do it) and........just wow.

The first movie was perfect, basically just the first 6 episodes with some clarification here and there as people said......but this 2.0 has thrown me off really hard. Not in a bad way, just in a HOLY FUCKING WTF DID I JUST WATCH NOOOO ASUKA WAIT WTF NEW CHICK WAIT WTF UNIT02 WAIT WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF.

So.......to other people who have watched every single episode of the anime over 20 times each who watched 2.0 with 0 warning as to just what it was. What do you think about it?

All I can think is that this is no longer anything even close to the original anime (in a good way), but I fear Asuka is going to be very much less important than she was in the anime which makes me sad, her being my favorite character.

But really....those last 30-40 minutes are just an absolute mindfuck and even MORE so if you know exactly what SHOULD be happening according to the anime......holy fucking shit.

I can't be alone here can I?
Never fear the darkness, Bran. The strongest trees are rooted in the dark places of the earth. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong.
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
September 15 2012 04:14 GMT
#282
On September 15 2012 11:28 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 10:01 Shikyo wrote:
On September 15 2012 08:39 koreasilver wrote:
Wasn't Shinji being a shit character the main point of his character?

Probably, but I can't see it as anything but a very strong negative. For mechas alone I think that Muv-Luv Alternative does a much better job with a shit main character. Then again Visual Novels tend to have higher quality character personalities / development than animes due to them getting like 10x the time to work with so that might not be a completely fair comparison but ...

Oh right now that I've rewatch-skipped this a little bit I really don't think they handed the ending to the anime properly, either. I don't think NGE lived up to the potential I saw in the first few episodes... Though again that might have changed with the movies or whatever. I guess it's a really old anime and a frontrunner so I should be more understanding but meh

I think you just made my brain explode right there, with that Shinji Ikari->Shirogane Takeru comparison

If Takeru was the MC of Evangelion the show would be like 200x better -.-. Takeru goes through the same mental breakdown as shinji but difference is that he grows the fuck up
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
September 15 2012 04:29 GMT
#283
Let's talk about some of the music:




These two songs are some of my personal all-time favorites. The second one, in particular, is super fucking deep.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
September 15 2012 04:31 GMT
#284
Someone made a metal cover of The BEAST.



It's shockingly fitting...
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 04:43:30
September 15 2012 04:38 GMT
#285


yeah the Eva Rebuild movies are a departure from the anime

looking forward to 3.0

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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 04:41:14
September 15 2012 04:39 GMT
#286
On September 15 2012 12:58 N3rV[Green] wrote:
Ok I need to talk to somebody about this.....I just watched 2.0 for the first time (was trying to put it off after 1.0 till all 4, but fuck it couldn't do it) and........just wow.

The first movie was perfect, basically just the first 6 episodes with some clarification here and there as people said......but this 2.0 has thrown me off really hard. Not in a bad way, just in a HOLY FUCKING WTF DID I JUST WATCH NOOOO ASUKA WAIT WTF NEW CHICK WAIT WTF UNIT02 WAIT WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF.

So.......to other people who have watched every single episode of the anime over 20 times each who watched 2.0 with 0 warning as to just what it was. What do you think about it?

All I can think is that this is no longer anything even close to the original anime (in a good way), but I fear Asuka is going to be very much less important than she was in the anime which makes me sad, her being my favorite character.

But really....those last 30-40 minutes are just an absolute mindfuck and even MORE so if you know exactly what SHOULD be happening according to the anime......holy fucking shit.

I can't be alone here can I?

I liked 2.2. Its definitely going in a different direction than the series. As for Asuka, shes definitely going to have a significant role. Trailers for the 3rd movie have alot of "Pirate Asuka".


"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 04:42:41
September 15 2012 04:41 GMT
#287
On September 15 2012 13:39 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 12:58 N3rV[Green] wrote:
Ok I need to talk to somebody about this.....I just watched 2.0 for the first time (was trying to put it off after 1.0 till all 4, but fuck it couldn't do it) and........just wow.

The first movie was perfect, basically just the first 6 episodes with some clarification here and there as people said......but this 2.0 has thrown me off really hard. Not in a bad way, just in a HOLY FUCKING WTF DID I JUST WATCH NOOOO ASUKA WAIT WTF NEW CHICK WAIT WTF UNIT02 WAIT WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF.

So.......to other people who have watched every single episode of the anime over 20 times each who watched 2.0 with 0 warning as to just what it was. What do you think about it?

All I can think is that this is no longer anything even close to the original anime (in a good way), but I fear Asuka is going to be very much less important than she was in the anime which makes me sad, her being my favorite character.

But really....those last 30-40 minutes are just an absolute mindfuck and even MORE so if you know exactly what SHOULD be happening according to the anime......holy fucking shit.

I can't be alone here can I?

I liked 2.2. Its definitely going in a different direction than the series. As for Asuka, shes definitely going to have a significant role. Trailers for the 3rd movie are all about "Pirate Asuka".


If you notice closely the injuries she sustained in 2.0 are the same ones that she took from the mass production evas on maya's screen. cool little reference.

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Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
September 15 2012 05:26 GMT
#288
I also have to say that it was fucking painful to watch Asuka in her final battle in the anime movies. Fuck dude, so much of this serious is so painful but so amazing at the same time that colors on a screen that in all reality mean nothing can have such a profound effect on our emotions in general.

Thanks for those trailers too, hadn't seen them but they give me confidence that the rest will be absolutely amazzzing.

I seriously love this anime lol.
Never fear the darkness, Bran. The strongest trees are rooted in the dark places of the earth. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong.
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
September 15 2012 08:07 GMT
#289
I didn't really like the series (just stopped watching somewhere after episode 10, just had no real motivation to keep watching), are the rebuild/movies/whatever different enough that I might like it even if I disliked the series?
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
September 15 2012 08:18 GMT
#290
On September 15 2012 17:07 Maxie wrote:
I didn't really like the series (just stopped watching somewhere after episode 10, just had no real motivation to keep watching), are the rebuild/movies/whatever different enough that I might like it even if I disliked the series?


The End of Evangelion movie is a direct sequel to the television series. Rebuild is an alternative retelling of the story, with the plot going in a different direction in 2.0.

I would suggest trying the television series again with an open mind. Otherwise go ahead and watch Rebuild, though some parts, especially the ending of 2.0, will not make sense if you haven't finished the television.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
September 15 2012 09:18 GMT
#291
On September 15 2012 11:53 Savi[wOk] wrote:
My most favorite Anime. No other anime has changed me so much in my life.

Me too, me tooo ^^
Evangelion man, where to start? The greatest anime ever drawn/animated, the whole series for me was art in motion. I first watched it back in 1998 and every single time I re-watch it I spend a week thinking about the implications of the Human Instrumentality Project, or just the meaning of everything in the show. Masterclass through and through
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
birdmanilikeflying
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia22 Posts
September 15 2012 10:35 GMT
#292
On September 15 2012 12:58 N3rV[Green] wrote:
Ok I need to talk to somebody about this.....I just watched 2.0 for the first time (was trying to put it off after 1.0 till all 4, but fuck it couldn't do it) and........just wow.

The first movie was perfect, basically just the first 6 episodes with some clarification here and there as people said......but this 2.0 has thrown me off really hard. Not in a bad way, just in a HOLY FUCKING WTF DID I JUST WATCH NOOOO ASUKA WAIT WTF NEW CHICK WAIT WTF UNIT02 WAIT WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF.

So.......to other people who have watched every single episode of the anime over 20 times each who watched 2.0 with 0 warning as to just what it was. What do you think about it?

All I can think is that this is no longer anything even close to the original anime (in a good way), but I fear Asuka is going to be very much less important than she was in the anime which makes me sad, her being my favorite character.

But really....those last 30-40 minutes are just an absolute mindfuck and even MORE so if you know exactly what SHOULD be happening according to the anime......holy fucking shit.

I can't be alone here can I?



Yeah I definitely felt the same way about 2.0.

I am someone who really loved Eva when it first came out, watching it on VHS tapes borrowed from my not-so-local (the rental store that had them was about 40 minutes drive away which is very far where I live). I was pretty depressed about the ending back then, I think it really affected me to have ended like that, and I spent many hours afterwards trawling websites trying to find out what it all meant. One of the best ones I found was www.evaotaku.com. It also contains a transcript of an apparently 'proper' episode 25 and 26 of the TV series, which can be found at:

http://www.evaotaku.com/html/alteva.html

It's interesting reading, even if there is no guarantee it's real.

Anyway, I found Rebuild 1.0 to be good but essentially exactly the same as the TV series - which was fine but slightly disappointing. Then going into 2.0, I only watched it last year sometime, although it came out in 2009. I had read quite a bit about it, though I had indeed missed the major ending spoilers, so when I came around to watching it, I was blown away. I even really enjoyed seeing certain feelings fleshed out better (i.e. the main love triangle), with less ambiguity - though I can see how it clears some of the 'fog' and in some ways diminishes the story's appeal. In any case, I haven't been on the edge of my seat like that for quite some time when watching anything - part of it was definitely nostalgia but there's no doubt it is a masterfully crafted piece of animated cinema. The action sequences were enthralling, just like I remembered the original series being at the time.

The only complaint I had was the slightly pretentious beserk Eva scene, and I would agree with some that Anno went a little over the top. But I don't think Evangelion has ever been known for hiding its excesses, and that's probably part of the reason why it's so popular today.
There. Not there, THERE.
Tuczniak
Profile Joined September 2010
1561 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 11:14:02
September 15 2012 10:45 GMT
#293
On September 15 2012 13:29 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Let's talk about some of the music:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCLoNOYcVQU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D4-4xfxKg0

These two songs are some of my personal all-time favorites. The second one, in particular, is super fucking deep.
Thanks! Komm, susser Tod is my favourite too. But I just forgot the name :D


Anyone know the name of the song at 19:00 in eva 2.22? When the city is rising...
NeonGenesis
Profile Joined September 2005
Norway260 Posts
September 15 2012 10:48 GMT
#294
<3

This anime made a huge impact on me when I first watched it!
It's all good. I just want rainbows, unicorns and machine guns. -Sundance DiGiovanni
Solidrain
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany6 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 11:39:57
September 15 2012 11:19 GMT
#295
I liked this Anime a lot. And I hardly watch any Anime. I only watched the original and End of Evangelion.

Shinji is like the pinnacle of depressive behavior, thats why i even liked the last episodes because he could finally overcome them. The overall plot gets lost in the end, which is a bit sad. End of Evangelion is exactly what the community deserved, they were unhappy with the ending and got a movie where Shinjis depression wins and destroys whole humankind with it.
Tresher
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany404 Posts
September 15 2012 13:49 GMT
#296
Actually he gave humankind a new chance.Yes first he wishes death to all humans and they turn to LCL , but then in the dialogue with Rei(The scene where Lillith spills blood from her neck) he realizes thats not the world he wanted.Rei even says something like humankind can come back if they or Shinji wishes to.Theres also plenty of signs for it:EVA-01 coming out of Lilliths eye getting her wings/the orchestral "happily" sounding music/the Black Moon explodes and releases the souls.
Its actually a happy ending but what makes it so confusing is that Shinji chokes Asuka at the end.

This is my favourite Anime of all time.Thanks for this Thread.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24793 Posts
September 15 2012 15:14 GMT
#297
If these movies are just a retelling then

+ Show Spoiler +
...why does the moon already have rei's blood on it?
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a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
September 15 2012 15:29 GMT
#298
rebuild is obv a sequel -> red ocean
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Tomba
Profile Joined January 2012
Norway106 Posts
September 15 2012 15:34 GMT
#299
I have now watched 5 episodes of of this series, my first anime. But it dosen't seem so deep as everyone is saying?
Am i missing something or? Wathcing it with english sutbtitles, and it seems weird at times.

Wout
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands76 Posts
September 15 2012 15:37 GMT
#300
Evangelion is by far my favorite anime. I'm actually pretty bummed out that I never found any series that were similar because I love all the ambiguity and weird stuff. Extremely excited for 3.0
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