On September 15 2012 04:24 Tabularasa wrote: I got used to it pretty quickly, but I guess it makes it less strange when you only read them in subtitles (I prefer sub over dub in most cases). Its like using Acronyms or Brand Names in a sentence.
But its just hilarious when Asuka gets that call from germany and Shinji listens to her speaking german, its ridiculously bad ;D
I think hearing the people speak English is more interesting.
No, you can actually understand their english. I wouldn't have understood a word by Asuka, if it weren't subbed.
On September 15 2012 04:24 Tabularasa wrote: I got used to it pretty quickly, but I guess it makes it less strange when you only read them in subtitles (I prefer sub over dub in most cases). Its like using Acronyms or Brand Names in a sentence.
But its just hilarious when Asuka gets that call from germany and Shinji listens to her speaking german, its ridiculously bad ;D
On September 15 2012 04:24 Tabularasa wrote: I got used to it pretty quickly, but I guess it makes it less strange when you only read them in subtitles (I prefer sub over dub in most cases). Its like using Acronyms or Brand Names in a sentence.
But its just hilarious when Asuka gets that call from germany and Shinji listens to her speaking german, its ridiculously bad ;D
Shinji is my least favorite main character of all time. Ruined the anime for me, at least partially. It'd have been much better with a main char that wasn't as awful.
I really liked Rei, she's one of my favorite characters and was my favorite character in the anime. I also like her voice actor in general.
The opening is one of my all-time favorites for animes as well. Such a shame the main character sucks so much, this could have been much better. (I haven't seen any movies, heard he might have been slightly better there).
On September 15 2012 04:24 Tabularasa wrote: I got used to it pretty quickly, but I guess it makes it less strange when you only read them in subtitles (I prefer sub over dub in most cases). Its like using Acronyms or Brand Names in a sentence.
But its just hilarious when Asuka gets that call from germany and Shinji listens to her speaking german, its ridiculously bad ;D
On September 15 2012 04:24 Tabularasa wrote: I got used to it pretty quickly, but I guess it makes it less strange when you only read them in subtitles (I prefer sub over dub in most cases). Its like using Acronyms or Brand Names in a sentence.
But its just hilarious when Asuka gets that call from germany and Shinji listens to her speaking german, its ridiculously bad ;D
Anno HATED otakus (ironically enough, otakus are mostly responsible for the massive merchanise success of NGE), and made Shinji reflect some of the more selfish aspects of their culture.
The hospital room scene was a direct middle finger to them.
Shinji is meant to be a very unlikeable character, as he is a loner, he is a loser, he mopes around and gets on people's nerves with his depression and lack of confidence/self esteem. A lot of the story revolves around him trying to get past the "hedgehog's dilemma" and evolve as a character, yet the plot and Anno repeatedly stomps all over him until he's the puddle that appears in EoE.
The franchise certainly gives the audience a lot of chances to sympathize and relate to Shinji, even + Show Spoiler +
allowing him to break through and rescue Rei in 2.0
. But the franchise also gives an equal number of opportunities for the other main characters to criticize his character flaws.
This is a very worthy thread. Does Evangelion justice.
Thanks for making this thread.
Also, Evangelion ftw!
On September 13 2012 09:02 MadNeSs wrote:
LOL this is so great! Even though it's not 5 seconds, this is still actually a pretty legit "5 seconds" thing (covers the show overall, instead of many of these videos which only focus on 1 trivial aspect or such)
On September 15 2012 04:24 Tabularasa wrote: I got used to it pretty quickly, but I guess it makes it less strange when you only read them in subtitles (I prefer sub over dub in most cases). Its like using Acronyms or Brand Names in a sentence.
But its just hilarious when Asuka gets that call from germany and Shinji listens to her speaking german, its ridiculously bad ;D
I have to admit, Ive rewatched this vid twice already and its pretty fcking cool, despite it being gross and disgusting.
Im sold, Ill skip 1.0 and go straight to 2.0 though.
1.0 is pretty much a new theatrical version of the first six episodes, with no real divergence other than amazing visuals and animation this time around.
You might as well watch it, since it's pretty cool to see a 90's anime being presented with today's high quality production.
Also I would like to say that I feel the remake ( at least so far ) is a lot less... depressing? It feels more adventurous and actiony, (even the colors are brighter I think)
In the original, I remember the beginning (the first 6 roughly episodes) felt really claustrophobic (they don't go anywhere much, few characters, not much happening, etc.), and sorta made me depressed. Shinji and his depression was also emphasized more, and it really made the series emotional for me to watch. It felt really sad. In the remake they spend much less time on it. I guess you could say the remakes are more "streamlined" (if that's the right word), as in they should appeal to a larger audience.
But yea Eva 1.0 is pretty much very faithful, nothing very significant changed. 2.0 you start to see some new stuff (like Mari) and can see how 3.0 may be very different than the original plot.
On September 15 2012 09:35 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: Also I would like to say that I feel the remake ( at least so far ) is a lot less... depressing? It feels more adventurous and actiony, (even the colors are brighter I think)
In the original, I remember the beginning (the first 6 roughly episodes) felt really claustrophobic (they don't go anywhere much, few characters, not much happening, etc.), and sorta made me depressed. Shinji and his depression was also emphasized more, and it really made the series emotional for me to watch. It felt really sad. In the remake they spend much less time on it. I guess you could say the remakes are more "streamlined" (if that's the right word), as in they should appeal to a larger audience.
But yea Eva 1.0 is pretty much very faithful, nothing very significant changed. 2.0 you start to see some new stuff (like Mari) and can see how 3.0 may be very different than the original plot.
I think the best way to describe it is to have all the characters, and put them on medication.
They're not essentially happier, but they're definitely more emotionally stable and balanced.
I also feel like the people that refuse to watch because they "hate" Shinji so much are completely missing the point of the show xD
This is the kind of anime for me that was best watched absolutely stoned out of my mind/on acid, and trying to actually feel the emotions and thoughts of the characters, and that my friends is called "Living the dream".
I suggest if you didn't like it when you first tried watching, go attempt to REALLY live the dream. And no, it won't be happy.
On September 15 2012 08:39 koreasilver wrote: Wasn't Shinji being a shit character the main point of his character?
Probably, but I can't see it as anything but a very strong negative. For mechas alone I think that Muv-Luv Alternative does a much better job with a shit main character. Then again Visual Novels tend to have higher quality character personalities / development than animes due to them getting like 10x the time to work with so that might not be a completely fair comparison but ...
Oh right now that I've rewatch-skipped this a little bit I really don't think they handed the ending to the anime properly, either. I don't think NGE lived up to the potential I saw in the first few episodes... Though again that might have changed with the movies or whatever. I guess it's a really old anime and a frontrunner so I should be more understanding but meh
On September 15 2012 08:39 koreasilver wrote: Wasn't Shinji being a shit character the main point of his character?
Probably, but I can't see it as anything but a very strong negative. For mechas alone I think that Muv-Luv Alternative does a much better job with a shit main character. Then again Visual Novels tend to have higher quality character personalities / development than animes due to them getting like 10x the time to work with so that might not be a completely fair comparison but ...
Oh right now that I've rewatch-skipped this a little bit I really don't think they handed the ending to the anime properly, either. I don't think NGE lived up to the potential I saw in the first few episodes... Though again that might have changed with the movies or whatever. I guess it's a really old anime and a frontrunner so I should be more understanding but meh
I think you just made my brain explode right there, with that Shinji Ikari->Shirogane Takeru comparison