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Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
September 15 2012 16:02 GMT
#301
On September 16 2012 00:34 Tomba wrote:
I have now watched 5 episodes of of this series, my first anime. But it dosen't seem so deep as everyone is saying?
Am i missing something or? Wathcing it with english sutbtitles, and it seems weird at times.


once you get to the second half of the series is progressively gets more wtf...
N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
September 15 2012 16:31 GMT
#302
On September 16 2012 01:02 Tabbris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 00:34 Tomba wrote:
I have now watched 5 episodes of of this series, my first anime. But it dosen't seem so deep as everyone is saying?
Am i missing something or? Wathcing it with english sutbtitles, and it seems weird at times.


once you get to the second half of the series is progressively gets more wtf...




This is 100% a show you must give time to and think a LOT, and if I remember well enough, the serious crazy doesn't start until like 13-15 episodes. All I can say is, just watch the WHOLE series (but I honestly wouldn't even watch the original last two episodes, just watch the end of evangelion movies), and then go watch the Rebuild 1.0/2.0. You're poor mind will be in tatters.

As to the chronology of the show----->rebuild, it must be some really messed up outcome of the end of the anime to reset all the people but leave the red sea, blood on the moon, and many other little details. Fuck I need to watch the anime series again, it's too damn fuzzy. But basically, the Rebuild movies ARE directly after the Anime, we just don't really know how or why. xD
Never fear the darkness, Bran. The strongest trees are rooted in the dark places of the earth. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
September 15 2012 16:40 GMT
#303
On September 16 2012 00:14 micronesia wrote:
If these movies are just a retelling then

+ Show Spoiler +
...why does the moon already have rei's blood on it?

On September 16 2012 00:29 a176 wrote:
rebuild is obv a sequel -> red ocean

There is a theory for that, but there is also Anno saying that Rebuild is his way to "recreate Evangelion as he wanted it to be". Until its actually confirmed for being truth or not, "Rebuild is a sequel" is nothing more than fanon.

On September 15 2012 17:07 Maxie wrote:
I didn't really like the series (just stopped watching somewhere after episode 10, just had no real motivation to keep watching), are the rebuild/movies/whatever different enough that I might like it even if I disliked the series?

Give Rebuild a shot. Rebuild 1 is mostly a the first dozen episodes or so, except alot nicer looking, but Rebuild 2 is different/alot better than what the series was IMO. Rebuild isn't a masterpiece or anything, but its worth a watch.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
September 15 2012 17:55 GMT
#304
On September 16 2012 01:40 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 00:14 micronesia wrote:
If these movies are just a retelling then

+ Show Spoiler +
...why does the moon already have rei's blood on it?

Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 00:29 a176 wrote:
rebuild is obv a sequel -> red ocean

There is a theory for that, but there is also Anno saying that Rebuild is his way to "recreate Evangelion as he wanted it to be". Until its actually confirmed for being truth or not, "Rebuild is a sequel" is nothing more than fanon.

Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 17:07 Maxie wrote:
I didn't really like the series (just stopped watching somewhere after episode 10, just had no real motivation to keep watching), are the rebuild/movies/whatever different enough that I might like it even if I disliked the series?

Give Rebuild a shot. Rebuild 1 is mostly a the first dozen episodes or so, except alot nicer looking, but Rebuild 2 is different/alot better than what the series was IMO. Rebuild isn't a masterpiece or anything, but its worth a watch.



I guess I'll do that, though all the talk about "it's a sequel!!" sort of makes me reconsider it a little. But if Rebuild is alot better than the series, it's worth a shot. i didn't hate/dislike what I saw of the series, really, I just... didn't have any urge to keep watching.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
September 15 2012 18:23 GMT
#305
On September 16 2012 00:14 micronesia wrote:
If these movies are just a retelling then

+ Show Spoiler +
...why does the moon already have rei's blood on it?


Spoilers for those who haven't watched Rebuild.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Tuczniak
Profile Joined September 2010
1561 Posts
September 15 2012 20:12 GMT
#306
On September 16 2012 03:23 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 00:14 micronesia wrote:
If these movies are just a retelling then

+ Show Spoiler +
...why does the moon already have rei's blood on it?


Spoilers for those who haven't watched Rebuild.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Interesting.
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
September 15 2012 20:20 GMT
#307
I was a big fan of this series when I was about 14, 10 years ago, it had a huge impact on me. I watched the whole series again about 6 months ago with my wife, it was exactly how I remembered but she was a bit underwhelmed

Anyway, I had no idea about the rebuilds, I'd like to watch them but I have no idea how to watch them. Are they on the internet somewhere?
good vibes only
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
September 15 2012 20:53 GMT
#308
On September 16 2012 05:20 Meta wrote:
I was a big fan of this series when I was about 14, 10 years ago, it had a huge impact on me. I watched the whole series again about 6 months ago with my wife, it was exactly how I remembered but she was a bit underwhelmed

Anyway, I had no idea about the rebuilds, I'd like to watch them but I have no idea how to watch them. Are they on the internet somewhere?

http://www.amazon.com/Evangelion-1-11-You-Alone-Blu-ray/dp/B0030ZOYHC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1347742306&sr=8-1&keywords=rebuild of evangelion 1.11


http://www.amazon.com/Evangelion-2-22-You-Advance-Blu-ray/dp/B004EC5IUW/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1347742306&sr=8-3&keywords=rebuild of evangelion 1.11

DvDs are only $10. Well worth it. ^^
Kukaracha
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France1954 Posts
September 16 2012 05:57 GMT
#309
I'm sad that I missed this thread.

There is so much to say about Evangelion... Misato's sexual identity, Shinji's repressed lust, the concept of consciousness, the representation of the self...
An old philosophy teacher once said that in the western world, we tend to see the community as a group composed of individuals; but what if it really was the individual that is only the fraction of a whole?

The idea of the AT-field was one of the most brilliant ideas of the show, and it holds in itself the essence of the series : an outside made to appeal to otakus and others looking for a pleasurable thrill, and a hidden meaning that tries to expand your vision, open your eyes.
Le long pour l'un pour l'autre est court (le mot-à-mot du mot "amour").
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
September 16 2012 06:00 GMT
#310
On September 16 2012 14:57 Kukaracha wrote:
I'm sad that I missed this thread.

There is so much to say about Evangelion... Misato's sexual identity, Shinji's repressed lust, the concept of consciousness, the representation of the self...
An old philosophy teacher once said that in the western world, we tend to see the community as a group composed of individuals; but what if it really was the individual that is only the fraction of a whole?

The idea of the AT-field was one of the most brilliant ideas of the show, and it holds in itself the essence of the series : an outside made to appeal to otakus and others looking for a pleasurable thrill, and a hidden meaning that tries to expand your vision, open your eyes.


i'm not so sure about the "repressed lust" part.
i mean he did reject asuka's advances quite often, and even misato's.

the only real act of "lust" was the hospital room scene, but he's like 14-15. he did what any other adolescent would do if they saw a pair of perky bare breasts in front of them (if they knew no one was watching).
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2514 Posts
September 16 2012 06:25 GMT
#311
On September 16 2012 14:57 Kukaracha wrote:
I'm sad that I missed this thread.

There is so much to say about Evangelion... Misato's sexual identity, Shinji's repressed lust, the concept of consciousness, the representation of the self...
An old philosophy teacher once said that in the western world, we tend to see the community as a group composed of individuals; but what if it really was the individual that is only the fraction of a whole?

The idea of the AT-field was one of the most brilliant ideas of the show, and it holds in itself the essence of the series : an outside made to appeal to otakus and others looking for a pleasurable thrill, and a hidden meaning that tries to expand your vision, open your eyes.


I know right, it's just so DEEP.
nthrLL
Profile Joined June 2012
Australia45 Posts
September 16 2012 09:08 GMT
#312
Such a great series. I don't think anything has stuck with me for as long as NGE has which is quite funny since I have not revisited the series in any way since originally watching it and EoE. Definitely setting some time aside to rewatch the series, the movies and the Rebuilds :D
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-16 16:53:20
September 16 2012 16:36 GMT
#313
On September 16 2012 05:53 Tabbris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 05:20 Meta wrote:
I was a big fan of this series when I was about 14, 10 years ago, it had a huge impact on me. I watched the whole series again about 6 months ago with my wife, it was exactly how I remembered but she was a bit underwhelmed

Anyway, I had no idea about the rebuilds, I'd like to watch them but I have no idea how to watch them. Are they on the internet somewhere?

http://www.amazon.com/Evangelion-1-11-You-Alone-Blu-ray/dp/B0030ZOYHC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1347742306&sr=8-1&keywords=rebuild of evangelion 1.11


http://www.amazon.com/Evangelion-2-22-You-Advance-Blu-ray/dp/B004EC5IUW/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1347742306&sr=8-3&keywords=rebuild of evangelion 1.11

DvDs are only $10. Well worth it. ^^


Yeah.. I'm not gonna buy it. I'd rather not watch it than have to buy it. Maybe someday there will be a torrent, but until then, I'll just wait until all 4 and then decide to purchase.

What really sucks is they are on youtube in german AND spanish, but not english.
good vibes only
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
September 16 2012 16:54 GMT
#314
It took me like 5 minutes to find a torrent for both of them.
Kukaracha
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France1954 Posts
September 16 2012 20:02 GMT
#315
On September 16 2012 15:25 Kaal wrote:
I know right, it's just so DEEP.

You sound mad.

To each his own, I guess. I personally enjoy complex works.

On September 16 2012 15:00 Gamegene wrote:
i'm not so sure about the "repressed lust" part.
i mean he did reject asuka's advances quite often, and even misato's.

the only real act of "lust" was the hospital room scene, but he's like 14-15. he did what any other adolescent would do if they saw a pair of perky bare breasts in front of them (if they knew no one was watching).

I don't know, the hospital scene didn't seem normal to me. But maybe we have different visions of sexuality... heh.

The fact that he's portrayed as a weak teenager, a "semi-child" already cancels his sexual potential. It doesn't seem as if he doesn't want to, but that he represses his urges that he unconsciously knows as imposible to satisfy. He doesn't simply reject Misato and Asuka; he violently reacts to what scares him. The key term here is "reaction".¸On the contrary, a man like Kaji can calmly deal with such interactions, when Shinji seems completely shaken each time his adulthood appears on the surface.

It really is just like the lonely otaku who turns to the imaginary world simply because he doesn't feel that he's a fully capable male in reality.
Le long pour l'un pour l'autre est court (le mot-à-mot du mot "amour").
N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
September 17 2012 06:18 GMT
#316
Thinking ahead to 3.0, do people remember how long it took to get a good version of 1.0/2.0 with subs online?

Cause it would be torture now that I've seen 2.0 to know 3.0 is out and released, but I can't watch it for like 4 months.......really hope it's like.....fast xD
Never fear the darkness, Bran. The strongest trees are rooted in the dark places of the earth. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong.
Unifex
Profile Joined September 2010
United States68 Posts
September 17 2012 06:19 GMT
#317
Well this thread made me re watch EoE and god damn is it bat shit crazy.

the only real act of "lust" was the hospital room scene,


Dude the amount of giant phallic symbols penetrating things is astronomical. And there is a giant vagina on her head at the end. The amount of repressed lust this kid has is cruazhy.

I do feel like this is a show which showed a generation that anime could be more than just DBZ/saint seya/inuyasha.
But you kinda had to be there.

I doubt younger generations who have already been exposed to some of the themes of the show or some of it's craziness in other form's of media would understand what made NGE so special.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-17 06:23:32
September 17 2012 06:23 GMT
#318
On September 17 2012 15:18 N3rV[Green] wrote:
Thinking ahead to 3.0, do people remember how long it took to get a good version of 1.0/2.0 with subs online?

Cause it would be torture now that I've seen 2.0 to know 3.0 is out and released, but I can't watch it for like 4 months.......really hope it's like.....fast xD

There probably won't be a good quality sub out until the dvd is released. I remember I had to wait for the dvd to watch 2.0.
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
September 17 2012 06:24 GMT
#319
I believe Evangelion was the first anime I watched on my PC, no less than on google videos/stream or whatever it was called back then. I was 14 at the time and the ending was pretty "wtf" though, my few previous animes had been the likes of DB/DBZ.

New Eva movies have pretty high entertainment value and I'm really liking them, can't wait till proper subbed release of 3.0.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
September 17 2012 06:26 GMT
#320
On September 17 2012 15:18 N3rV[Green] wrote:
Thinking ahead to 3.0, do people remember how long it took to get a good version of 1.0/2.0 with subs online?

Cause it would be torture now that I've seen 2.0 to know 3.0 is out and released, but I can't watch it for like 4 months.......really hope it's like.....fast xD

I remember I resorted to watching 2.0 before it was released on dvd by watching it from a fancam I dled where the screen wasn't even parallel lol.
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