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KOFgokuon
United States14892 Posts
On March 22 2013 11:47 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: But how can you adapt a book that is/was 276 pages into 3 movies that will be 11-12 hours total? add in a bunch of stuff like the white council meetings, removing sauron from dol guldor, who knows | ||
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TortoiseCa
Canada104 Posts
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shizaep
Canada2920 Posts
I think the key to enjoying it is not to be such a 'Tolkien purist' and film critic and just enjoy it as a nice high-budget fantasy flick, which are oh so rare. | ||
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shin_toss
Philippines2589 Posts
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diggurd
Norway346 Posts
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Nekovivie
United Kingdom2599 Posts
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
On March 22 2013 20:39 Nekovivie wrote: First one has to build the story up, can't blame it for not having too much action. Fellowship started out slow too. But that was a necessary build-up, As much as you might make a case for the FotR being slow, it was trim, and there was very little fat, at least when you compare it to the first Hobbit film, which has to build up for an unnecessarily inflated and indulgent tale. | ||
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ElMeanYo
United States1032 Posts
On March 22 2013 11:44 MaestroSC wrote: As a cinefile and HUGE fan of extended cuts.. (literally refuse to watch LotR without extended versions) I am quite pleased with it being 3 movies, and 3 long movies at that. Beware: The DVD/BD disc being sold right now is NOT the extended edition. That won't come out until right before the next movie is released. Bilking customers who don't know the difference. | ||
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On March 22 2013 11:47 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: But how can you adapt a book that is/was 276 pages into 3 movies that will be 11-12 hours total? Where are you getting the figure for 11-12 hours? Anyways, probably the same way you can split GoT into 10~ hours, and that had far more explicit descriptions of what was going on, while the Hobbit was full of general references to things + the appendices elaborated a ton on what else was occurring during the story but away from Bilbo's eyes. | ||
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Thor.Rush
Sweden702 Posts
I must say though that I expected the movie to boring, since I knew most of the scenes would be drawn out so they can make a trilogy. Were there any "epic" moments/scenes at all in this movie? I can think of tons in the LOTR movies but none in the Hobbit. | ||
Falling
Canada11320 Posts
Actually Tolkien went back and consolidated most of the speaking lines to a handful of dwarves rather than evenly distribute them. The movie put far more effort into creating distinct personalities between them. (Dori and Bofur come to mind.) Maybe it wasn't enough, but they are trying within the constraints of the story. I'm hoping the second will allow more time for the Dwarves as well. As for the 'epic' moments- it's a smaller story. You aren't going to get a massive siege of Helm's Deep. In fact they went out of their way to make everything bigger- Troll battles, goblin sequence (problematic swashbuckling granted, but still) and the Azog story line. Even if they shot it straight from the book, it would be even less epic. It's just not that kind of story. And expecting to be bored is a doubtful way to got to theatre in my opinion. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
I understand that some people may not like it, but for me it was clearly a design choice. It really feels like the sort of thing Peter Jackson likes to do. Blame the production, not the fact it was a "money grab". | ||
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Thor.Rush
Sweden702 Posts
On March 23 2013 07:07 Falling wrote: The dwarf problem exists in the books too. Actually Tolkien went back and consolidated most of the speaking lines to a handful of dwarves rather than evenly distribute them. The movie put far more effort into creating distinct personalities between them. (Dori and Bofur come to mind.) Maybe it wasn't enough, but they are trying within the constraints of the story. I'm hoping the second will allow more time for the Dwarves as well. As for the 'epic' moments- it's a smaller story. You aren't going to get a massive siege of Helm's Deep. In fact they went out of their way to make everything bigger- Troll battles, goblin sequence (problematic swashbuckling granted, but still) and the Azog story line. Even if they shot it straight from the book, it would be even less epic. It's just not that kind of story. And expecting to be bored is a doubtful way to got to theatre in my opinion. Well I exaggerate a bit, but the reason I did not have high expectations is because of the story too, like you said. For me, the book was just alright. It had its fun moments and sense of adventure, but nothing epic. I think the next movie will be better though. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On March 23 2013 01:15 Dfgj wrote: Where are you getting the figure for 11-12 hours? Anyways, probably the same way you can split GoT into 10~ hours, and that had far more explicit descriptions of what was going on, while the Hobbit was full of general references to things + the appendices elaborated a ton on what else was occurring during the story but away from Bilbo's eyes. This is Peter Jackson we're talking about here. The man who made King Kong, a monster movie, and then had a scene of said monster playing on the ice with a woman for 10 minutes.... We'll be lucky if this movie with the extras included doesn't push the 20 hour mark after all three DVD's are released. | ||
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arb
Noobville17920 Posts
On March 23 2013 08:12 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: This is Peter Jackson we're talking about here. The man who made King Kong, a monster movie, and then had a scene of said monster playing on the ice with a woman for 10 minutes.... We'll be lucky if this movie with the extras included doesn't push the 20 hour mark after all three DVD's are released. King Kong was a pretty good movie tho in it's defense Boat Captain was billy badass imo. | ||
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Arkandir
Mexico9 Posts
For someone who already read the Hobbit, the LOTR trilogy and the Silmarillion, I really liked the movie, aside from some lore inconsistencies + Show Spoiler + Azog, literal Mountain Giants, the entire reason Thorin and Co. go to erebor, some bits in the White Council like the part with Saruman and the mushrooms, Mirkwood being turned evil suddenly, and i think that's it The beggining was epic, showing an AWESOME intro for erebor and the dwarves in general, those 2 giant hammers for smithing where really "dwarven". The rest was equally great, the only thing i disliked was that Bilbo was telling the story. The journey, the songs, the characters (who i suppose the rest will be fleshed out in th sequels), the trolls (who sound like Warhammer orks), goblin town, etc... each getting them closer and closer to erebor. So what did i think about it? i really enjoyed it, maybe because there haven't been many high fantasy movies recently or maybe because the scenes taken from the book to the movie were memmorable. I think this movie was made with love and care, unlike other blockbuster movies, so go watch it if you can. | ||
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Kaien
Belgium178 Posts
IMO At some points it was rather boring but they showed a few new scenes and sets which were interesting. If you missed it, here is the link: https://mega.co.nz/#!HdcDgL5Y!Fcm3qnVuf9N_0TsEOWqSyR7R8acTLXQOdD_k7xxeqnE Its one hour long though and if you don't want to download it, I expect that it will be on youtube soon. | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
Don't care if it differs somewhat from the story. I enjoyed the music, story, landscapes, characters and their actors. Overall very beautiful movie and i'm actually glad it will be a trilogy. The only minus is the waiting part. I should read the book again in the near future, but i doubt it will change my view of the movie that much. I guess i'm one those who won't be that bothered by the differences and will let it slide. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/hobbit-2-desolation-of-smaug-poster.jpg) http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/first-the-hobbit-the-desolation-of-smaug-poster/ | ||
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Falling
Canada11320 Posts
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