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Chrobbus
Iceland195 Posts
Jan 2, 2012 The Hobbit #1 film at the Box Office three weekends in a row Domestic Gross: $242M Foreign Gross: $464M Worldwide: $706M Just wanted to point out a minor mistake, i.e. 2013 and not 12  | ||
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neggro
United States591 Posts
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JeanBob
Canada295 Posts
On January 22 2013 12:47 neggro wrote: What a bore. I hope they cancel the two sequels. You know you have the right not to go and see them, right? There's a lot of movies I didn't really like in my life, and if they made sequels well... what does that change in my life? Not a single thing, didn't see them, people who enjoyed the movie went to see them, they were happy, I was happy, so I can't see what wrong. I for one enjoyed the movie and is excited about seeing the next one; when it comes out, I'll go see it and I'll be happy, you'll stay home and you'll be happy, I don't see why you're wishing me not to have a good time, that's kinda mean. | ||
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neggro
United States591 Posts
On January 22 2013 13:46 JeanBob wrote: You know you have the right not to go and see them, right? There's a lot of movies I didn't really like in my life, and if they made sequels well... what does that change in my life? Not a single thing, didn't see them, people who enjoyed the movie went to see them, they were happy, I was happy, so I can't see what wrong. I for one enjoyed the movie and is excited about seeing the next one; when it comes out, I'll go see it and I'll be happy, you'll stay home and you'll be happy, I don't see why you're wishing me not to have a good time, that's kinda mean. You're obviously not a film lover. I like watching movies. I love it. I'm in love with it. So much so that I have every right to feel educated pleasure, or revolt from watching films. And it so happens that in my opinion, this "trilogy" is an opportunistic moneygrab (did you know that this new trilogy amounts to 1/3 of 1/3 of the original LoTR in terms source material?) that should be stopped. | ||
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darthfoley
United States8004 Posts
On January 22 2013 13:52 neggro wrote: You're obviously not a film lover. I like watching movies. I love it. I'm in love with it. So much so that I have every right to feel educated pleasure, or revolt from watching films. And it so happens that in my opinion, this "trilogy" is an opportunistic moneygrab (did you know that this new trilogy amounts to 1/3 of 1/3 of the original LoTR in terms source material?) that should be stopped. Wtf is this shit? Because he disagrees with your retarded "they should cancel the next two movies because I deem it so" argument, he "obviously" doesn't love movies? This is seriously one of the most pretentious things i've ever heard in my life. | ||
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CobaltBlu
United States919 Posts
The movie would have been an incoherent blitz if they tried to include everything from the story in one film. Maybe three is too many but one wouldn't have been enough. | ||
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Absurdly
Canada59 Posts
On January 22 2013 14:01 CobaltBlu wrote: some seriously misplaced jokes. Totally agree on that. The one with the Gandalf killing the goblin king was horrible. Other than that it was pretty enjoyable. I don't think it was amazing like most of my friends thought, but still good and I'll definitely watch the sequels. | ||
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csikos27
United States135 Posts
Re-visiting middle earth is all around fun | ||
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frogrubdown
1266 Posts
On January 22 2013 14:06 Absurdly wrote: Totally agree on that. The one with the Gandalf killing the goblin king was horrible. Other than that it was pretty enjoyable. I don't think it was amazing like most of my friends thought, but still good and I'll definitely watch the sequels. I'd forgotten about that. What'd he say again? | ||
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aZealot
New Zealand5447 Posts
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MajuGarzett
Canada635 Posts
On January 22 2013 14:23 frogrubdown wrote: I'd forgotten about that. What'd he say again? I think the Goblin King blocks their way and asks what their going to do about it so Gandalf stabs him and the king says "that works". | ||
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frogrubdown
1266 Posts
On January 22 2013 14:45 MajuGarzett wrote: I think the Goblin King blocks their way and asks what their going to do about it so Gandalf stabs him and the king says "that works". Yeah thanks, that sounds right. And shortly after there were those Dwarf-getting-crushed-by-boulder lines. I really don't think you need humor that atrocious just because the movie's supposed to be more light-hearted and directed at children than LOTR. | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
While I do think that Jackson's making a money grab, I keep wondering how anyone can adapt The Hobbit into one film without making the pace seem incredibly urgent and rushed. The book itself reads at a breakneck speed (a result of it being marketed more towards children and young adults), and trying to adapt the book into something even vaguely palatable onscreen is a huge challenge. At first I was against the extension, but I doubt there's a better way to do it. (I still think two films rather than three would've been better though.) I didn't like his characterization of the dwarves either. There was very little "we just want to regain our home!!!" in the book, if I'm remembering correctly, and much more gold-lust from the dwarves, but I imagine Jackson felt like he had to tweak the characters a little to give the film characters the audience can relate to. Not to mention, it's fairly simple to weave in the entire "home" theme to help string together the scenes so that the film feels more unified than the book. | ||
Falling
Canada11586 Posts
On January 22 2013 13:52 neggro wrote: You're obviously not a film lover. I like watching movies. I love it. I'm in love with it. So much so that I have every right to feel educated pleasure, or revolt from watching films. And it so happens that in my opinion, this "trilogy" is an opportunistic moneygrab (did you know that this new trilogy amounts to 1/3 of 1/3 of the original LoTR in terms source material?) that should be stopped. I don't think it is so simple as a cashgrab. Or at least not of the sort I am used to. Obviously 3 movies will make more money than 2 or 1. So I will not deny a mercenary motivation. However, I don't know many 'cash-grabs' that are so devoted to mining appendices and obscure backstories to help better connect the massive disconnect in styles and scope between the two stories/ series. I think it is quite clear from the decision-making and attention to detail, PJ really does love this material. I certainly don't agree with every decision made and the humour/tone is uneven in places. (The goblin mine battle broke me out of the story-telling and just made me shake my head at the physics-defying shenanigans.) And it is certainly an interpretation rather than an adaptation. But I don't think it is accurate to simply dismiss the entire thing as a cash-grab. | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
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Zooper31
United States5713 Posts
On January 22 2013 13:52 neggro wrote: You're obviously not a film lover. I like watching movies. I love it. I'm in love with it. So much so that I have every right to feel educated pleasure, or revolt from watching films. And it so happens that in my opinion, this "trilogy" is an opportunistic moneygrab (did you know that this new trilogy amounts to 1/3 of 1/3 of the original LoTR in terms source material?) that should be stopped. You need to look in a mirror and re-evaluate your attitude toward others. How can you say someone isn't a film lover if they simply disagree with your opinion on a single movie. And then proclaim your opinion as fact that can't be argued. Step off the high horse and respect others opinions, especially when they were very logical and coherent with their reasoning. | ||
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Doomwish
438 Posts
On January 22 2013 15:14 Zooper31 wrote: You need to look in a mirror and re-evaluate your attitude toward others. How can you say someone isn't a film lover if they simply disagree with your opinion on a single movie. And then proclaim your opinion as fact that can't be argued. Step off the high horse and respect others opinions, especially when they were very logical and coherent with their reasoning. That won't work at all. Him looking in the mirror will most likely reaffirm his bitter attitude and anger towards the world. | ||
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Sumahi
Guam5609 Posts
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rezoacken
Canada2719 Posts
I have really mixed feelings about the movie. I would rate it around a 5/10. First I'll say I don't know the Hobbit book much, I read it 17years ago and can't remember much of it. I'm a big fan of the LotR trilogy however. What I liked: -The HFR experience was great. I like this. And imax.... well how can someone not like imax anyway. - We go back to Middle Earth. The background are overall great. Sceneries felt epic as they did in LotR. It's visually very beautiful. - I really liked the first hour or so. I think it was the better part of the movie, I really don't understand why some people don't like it. Sure its not very fast paced but it was decently paced anyway. It was beautiful and the atmosphere was there. - I really love Bilbo actor and script. He's witty and believable in the role. For reference, I hate ElijahWood in LotR (and Sam when it comes to it). What I really disliked: -The plot is way too diluted. Three hours of mostly not much. Lotr felt a bit rushed and I appreciate the long editions, but this bilbo thing (a 300 pages book) will be adapted into three 3 hours movies... Really ? Makes no sense to me and feels like a pure money grab. The result is a movie with way too long fight scenes and many boring fillers. -The feeling of the dialogue/action felt very very weird. Sometimes it was very dramatic and serious like LotR. And sometimes you get some really light stuff (and cheap jokes) that you would expect out of a Disney movie. So during the whole movie I didn't know where to stand, should I take this seriously or should I see that like a Shrek movie ? -Most of the main actors are forgetable. Not much to say, the only thing worth praise is Bilbo. Everybody else get only a few lines, are big stereotypes or just make lame jokes... meh. -Crappy pacing of the movie. Here what it is in a nutshell: 1hour of storytelling at the start, 2hours of running from one stage to another. This movie felt like a video game with a long introduction. Man I was so glad it was over after the endless fights and action scenes. LotR was just better on this. Fight scenes were a lot less numerous and there were good pauses in between. Difficult to imagine its the same director. If those scenes are in the book, then their length should have been shortened. -Every damn action scenes ends by the dwarves being saved by Gandalf (or someone else). Always, what the hell. -Some incoherences. When the trolls capture Bilbo during the battle with dwarves, the dwarves throw their weapons and end up all being captured ??? what the fuck, how can a writer even makes sense out of this. The party is travelling in the mountains and suddenly they are in the middle of a battle between rock giants ? And I won't even mention the countless times they should all have died, I'll let that slip LotR wasn't much better on that side. Kind of disapointed overall. I hope the next movies will be better but I doubt it. Here is the thing... LotR if you were disapointed by the slow pace of the first movie you knew the next two would have bigger stuff. Here... I already know they will have to make a 3 hour movies about only a few pages worth of material... doesn't sound good. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
On January 22 2013 13:52 neggro wrote: You're obviously not a film lover. I like watching movies. I love it. I'm in love with it. So much so that I have every right to feel educated pleasure, or revolt from watching films. And it so happens that in my opinion, this "trilogy" is an opportunistic moneygrab (did you know that this new trilogy amounts to 1/3 of 1/3 of the original LoTR in terms source material?) that should be stopped. Not that the hobbit (book) briefly touched on many interesting subjects and only used a handful of pages to explain them. Hell, the dwarves escape from the goblins was documented in about 10 pages but easily made an interesting 20 minutes without stretching it IMO. Thats just one example Apparently they are pulling alot of things from the hidden lore too, which will be interesting to see. There are many plots still left to be seen, and just thinking about them i understand that they can probably make 2 films out of it all, Hell, LOTR:Two towers was one big battle for the last half of it, War of the seven armies should be interesting to see. -All references may be wrong / slightly off, pulling off a 8 year memory since i last read the book, shameful i know | ||
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