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On June 03 2012 07:15 Angel_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2012 05:01 Thorakh wrote:On June 03 2012 04:48 Angel_ wrote:On June 03 2012 04:07 brainox wrote:yea great episode + Show Spoiler +I think next episode she wil be in some cage trying to meditate and learning more from aang or so + Show Spoiler +Here's a question. Will she go into avatar state to escape or be rescued? + Show Spoiler +I think she can't go avatar state yet because her spiritual side is severely lacking. + Show Spoiler +yeah but that's what she's going to work on while she's sitting tied up  and lacking doesn't mean she's unable. It just means she's a stubborn derp that relies to much on being boisterous and physical and aggressive all the time, as you can see in...well every single other episode before this one where she's finally starting to show some restraint. for um. the first half anyway.
+ Show Spoiler +Yeah. It doesn't make sense that Yakone can bloodbend everyone in the room without even moving his hands. Perhaps he had an army of bloodbenders and was a grandson of Hama. This army then bloodbended Sokka, Toph, and Aang allowing Yakone to escape until Aang hacked and went avatar state.
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Omg, best episode as of yet...
Mind blown... I don't even know where to begin. Need more episodes!
+ Show Spoiler +Her final vision was pretty scary. He can blood bend as many people as he wants...
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On June 03 2012 07:43 obesechicken13 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2012 07:15 Angel_ wrote:On June 03 2012 05:01 Thorakh wrote:On June 03 2012 04:48 Angel_ wrote:On June 03 2012 04:07 brainox wrote:yea great episode + Show Spoiler +I think next episode she wil be in some cage trying to meditate and learning more from aang or so + Show Spoiler +Here's a question. Will she go into avatar state to escape or be rescued? + Show Spoiler +I think she can't go avatar state yet because her spiritual side is severely lacking. + Show Spoiler +yeah but that's what she's going to work on while she's sitting tied up and lacking doesn't mean she's unable. It just means she's a stubborn derp that relies to much on being boisterous and physical and aggressive all the time, as you can see in...well every single other episode before this one where she's finally starting to show some restraint. for um. the first half anyway. + Show Spoiler +Yeah. It doesn't make sense that Yakone can bloodbend everyone in the room without even moving his hands. Perhaps he had an army of bloodbenders and was a grandson of Hama. This army then bloodbended Sokka, Toph, and Aang allowing Yakone to escape until Aang hacked and went avatar state.
Or maybe he was just really fucking strong. Remember, King Bumi could earthbend without the use of his hands as well.
I think it's possible that Tarlok is related to Yakone in some way, possibly even his son but I feel like someone would have mentioned something that important by now. It's possible that he was a bastard child or something but I don't know if Nick would go down that route. There's just a lot of possibilities right now and I love not knowing where the story could go from here, there are so many possibilities.
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+ Show Spoiler +One thing I really hope they delve into a bit more, aside from the stuff everyone has already expressed interest in, is that sort of McCarthyism that Tarrlok kicked off in this episode where anybody who so much as associates with an Equalist is condemned as an Equalist him or herself. They've been doing a pretty good job at making Amon a formidable threat not necessarily by making him super powerful, but by displaying what kind of damage he can do as a leader. If they capture that tension and fear of the red scare they will have two amazing villains that are imposing for reasons other than a generic evil intention or raw physical power (though they are, of course, strong fighters).
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I also can't wait until all of the episodes are released and someone puts together all of the clips of Korra's visions together.
May be interesting to see the story it tells.
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On June 03 2012 08:09 Scribble wrote:+ Show Spoiler +One thing I really hope they delve into a bit more, aside from the stuff everyone has already expressed interest in, is that sort of McCarthyism that Tarrlok kicked off in this episode where anybody who so much as associates with an Equalist is condemned as an Equalist him or herself. They've been doing a pretty good job at making Amon a formidable threat not necessarily by making him super powerful, but by displaying what kind of damage he can do as a leader. If they capture that tension and fear of the red scare they will have two amazing villains that are imposing for reasons other than a generic evil intention or raw physical power (though they are, of course, strong fighters).
indeed.
I really dig the fact that they've set up two opposing villains in the way that they did.
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Is it just me or does Tarlok look a lot like Hama after his hair falls down after his fight with Korra?
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On June 03 2012 05:03 obesechicken13 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +What is Aang trying to tell Korra. How did he defeat the bloodbender?
Or maybe he's trying to say that you have to bend your own body more than the bloodbender can bend yours. That was how Katara released herself from Hama's bloodbender without making any movements.
And why is Tarlock so into making more nonbenders into angry equalists?
Why did Tarlock not kill Korra? The fight was a bit reminiscent of Star Wars fights like when Windu confronts the Emperor and they find out for the first time that the emperor can actually fight and that he's been using them to gain power. Then Korra's about to kick the emperor's butt until deus ex machina bloodbending/anakin comes in.
From what I read, bloodbending has no effect on another waterbender whose skill level is higher than the user. Which is part of the reason why Katara managed to overpower Hama; cause she was high tier. And I would imagine why in the flashback that Aang seemed the least affected by Yakonne amongst Sokka, Toph and everyone else in the courtroom (even though he was still struggling); he was pretty damn good with waterbending, even as a kid.
An explanation/theory for Tarrlock converting nonbenders into Equalists is that he's Amon. Playing both sides of the spectrum would help establishing total control over Republic City in the long run.
As for Tarrlok not killing Korra... well, how would it look if you have a dead Avatar, and your entire office demolished? No matter how skilled you are with words and public relations, you just killed someone of extremely high status, which would cost your career.
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Here's a theory, and it's a pretty legit theory, if any:
http://birdbrainblue.tumblr.com/post/24281699688/an-analysis-of-the-flashbacks
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On June 03 2012 09:39 Sitinte wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2012 05:03 obesechicken13 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +What is Aang trying to tell Korra. How did he defeat the bloodbender?
Or maybe he's trying to say that you have to bend your own body more than the bloodbender can bend yours. That was how Katara released herself from Hama's bloodbender without making any movements.
And why is Tarlock so into making more nonbenders into angry equalists?
Why did Tarlock not kill Korra? The fight was a bit reminiscent of Star Wars fights like when Windu confronts the Emperor and they find out for the first time that the emperor can actually fight and that he's been using them to gain power. Then Korra's about to kick the emperor's butt until deus ex machina bloodbending/anakin comes in. From what I read, bloodbending has no effect on another waterbender whose skill level is higher than the user. Which is part of the reason why Katara managed to overpower Hama; cause she was high tier. And I would imagine why in the flashback that Aang seemed the least affected by Yakonne amongst Sokka, Toph and everyone else in the courtroom (even though he was still struggling); he was pretty damn good with waterbending, even as a kid. An explanation/theory for Tarrlock converting nonbenders into Equalists is that he's Amon. Playing both sides of the spectrum would help establishing total control over Republic City in the long run. As for Tarrlok not killing Korra... well, how would it look if you have a dead Avatar, and your entire office demolished? No matter how skilled you are with words and public relations, you just killed someone of extremely high status, which would cost your career. Edit: Here's a theory, and it's a pretty legit theory, if any: http://birdbrainblue.tumblr.com/post/24281699688/an-analysis-of-the-flashbacks
I like that theory to be honest. One thing I might add though is maybe Amon is Tarrlock's brother? Why else would you get so angry when being compared to Amon...? Why is Tarrlock so aggressively hating on Amon?
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On June 03 2012 09:39 Sitinte wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2012 05:03 obesechicken13 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +What is Aang trying to tell Korra. How did he defeat the bloodbender?
Or maybe he's trying to say that you have to bend your own body more than the bloodbender can bend yours. That was how Katara released herself from Hama's bloodbender without making any movements.
And why is Tarlock so into making more nonbenders into angry equalists?
Why did Tarlock not kill Korra? The fight was a bit reminiscent of Star Wars fights like when Windu confronts the Emperor and they find out for the first time that the emperor can actually fight and that he's been using them to gain power. Then Korra's about to kick the emperor's butt until deus ex machina bloodbending/anakin comes in. From what I read, bloodbending has no effect on another waterbender whose skill level is higher than the user. Which is part of the reason why Katara managed to overpower Hama; cause she was high tier. And I would imagine why in the flashback that Aang seemed the least affected by Yakonne amongst Sokka, Toph and everyone else in the courtroom (even though he was still struggling); he was pretty damn good with waterbending, even as a kid. An explanation/theory for Tarrlock converting nonbenders into Equalists is that he's Amon. Playing both sides of the spectrum would help establishing total control over Republic City in the long run. As for Tarrlok not killing Korra... well, how would it look if you have a dead Avatar, and your entire office demolished? No matter how skilled you are with words and public relations, you just killed someone of extremely high status, which would cost your career. Edit: Here's a theory, and it's a pretty legit theory, if any: http://birdbrainblue.tumblr.com/post/24281699688/an-analysis-of-the-flashbacks
Well the thing is that as long as Korra is alive, she represents a threat (as an Avatar). No one would know he was the one who killed Korra except his secretary. And the damage to the property could be blamed on some bending gang that later fled or were held in jail by his puppet police force.
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Killing the avatar is less effective than locking up the avatar. If you kill Korra, another Avatar is born and you have another problem. If you just let the Avatar live in a jail cell for 80 years, you're free for 80 years.
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That was AEWESOME!
I love all of Tenzin's kids. They're awesome and Meelo is hilairous (alhtough the fart jokes were a bit... unnecessary...).
That theory is pretty legit and I woudlnt be surprised if it was prefectly spot on. It does look like everyone in the room is being blloodbent, and I just dont see any one person doing this... ever. Except for maybe Avatar State buffed people. So his gang doing it sounds good.
I was wondering where Katara was in these flashbacks, and he's provided a perfect resaon. I mean, it's fucking Katara. Probably best waterbender around at the time.
On June 03 2012 05:03 Xenocide_Knight wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2012 03:25 The KY wrote:+ Show Spoiler +It was a good episode. That bit where Korra confronts Tarlok and he's got that waterfall behind his desk and you know shit is going to go down; fuck yeah.
I'm guessing there's gonna an explanation soon that describes how something changed during Aang's time to affect all bending. Which is why we have Amon taking people's bending away and Tarlok blood bending without the full moon.
Hopefully also it might offer an explanation as to why Mako is flinging around little bolts of lightning like it ain't no thang, and the equalists just brush it off. I mean, damn, remember how fucking deadly Azula seemed because she could use it?
It also occurs to me that Lin Beifong is fucking retarded for stepping down as chief of police and allowing Tarlok's bitch to succeed her. So...now the police are under the control of Tarlok who is either in league with Amon (or is Amon) or is using the threat of equalist terrorism to justify ever more totalitarian laws which also grant him more power. Good idea Lin, you fucking idiot. You see all these innocent people being rounded up by the police? Wouldn't be happening if yoy were the chief. Good job, looks like your decision to resign so you could fight the equalists and Tarlok more effectively really paid off.
Plus I can't help but feel that the Council - made up of one snake, 3 yes men who do nothing but raise their hands whenever the snake says so, and a completely impotent Tenzin - is the worst excuse for a democracy ever. These 5 people can just pass laws by raising their hands? They don't have to consult anyone else ever? And if people complain they get arrested? Well done to you to Aang, you really created a special society here at Republic City. Azula was deadly because she was good, not because she used lightning. I'm sure just like any other element that there are degrees of power. Mako's lightning doesn't kill because he probably doesn't generate that kind of power. + Show Spoiler +Unless he did kill the drivers and it wasn't mentioned. Such a good episode this week but I'm really disappointed by the police. I mean, it was supposed to be Toph's super special task force right? You'd think that at least someone in the force would be like "Hey, I'm not ok with jailing innocent people and listening to this council that the last avatar's son and the current avatar are clearly against."
I don't know if I agree with those comments about lightning. From what I've seen and read, it seems like lightning bending is 100% fatal. Mako didn't have to hit anyone with it. I assumed he was disabling the cars, not hitting the drivers. Even just hitting the inside of the roof would shock everyone pretty hard... just a direct hit would kill ya.
Anyone else want Korra to go rapemode with those two giant rocks? I don't really think she'd be able to win alone vs so many of them but it would have been awesome. I could se eher standing a chance with Mako/Bolin/Asami helping out. I dindt expect them to get captured so easily.
Also loved how she was totally going to kill him. I hope we see some death. I mean, fuck, sometimes you've gotta.
So yeah, that was awesome. I cant wait until next week. ^__^
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Just watched the first seven episodes of this show, finally. Holy shit! This show is awesome<3<3
Apparently I am forced to wait for Nick to put up episode 8 online -_-
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On June 03 2012 12:22 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Just watched the first seven episodes of this show, finally. Holy shit! This show is awesome<3<3
Apparently I am forced to wait for Nick to put up episode 8 online -_-
Or google Legend of Korra episodes and click on the first webpage <.<
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On June 03 2012 12:25 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2012 12:22 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Just watched the first seven episodes of this show, finally. Holy shit! This show is awesome<3<3
Apparently I am forced to wait for Nick to put up episode 8 online -_- Or google Legend of Korra episodes and click on the first webpage <.<
Ack, can't now, I'm watching my three whole games of broodwar on esportstv. Actually, possibly only 2 games. And I missed all of the first game... So... one game maybe.
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Wow... GREAT EPISODE!
I really love how this show is "deep". First it makes things not black and white (benders ARE oppressing people -- Amon doesn't seem to be killing anyone, so far he is radical but his cause makes isn't necessarily uncalled for).
Now in this episode, you see tradition vs the new. Avatar vs the established police. I also like how they referred to the law regarding Korra's friends. The police guy said they were detained indefinitely -- that reminded me of the real world, how many people are against that, and how many feel that such a power is corrupt (or at least is being abused).
The part when Korra had to put down the rocks vs Tarlok was great. It's not like "kill the bad guy!" anymore. He's a councilmen of the city, representing his people.
The fighting was awesome. Maybe it could have been even better if somehow Tarlok didn't make the first attack, but I guess the creators wanted to show that he is indeed evil (should be evident from the flashbacks I guess).
The flashbacks were awesome -- lots revealed this time.
Question: When mako opened the door for korra to get in the car, she said "what a gentleman!" then asami narrowed her eyes, as seen through the mirror -- is she narrowing it in reaction to seeing mako and korra in the back (like in jealousy), or was she narrowing them because she was in the "let's get down to business" attitude, since she was driving?
Btw about Aang creating a bad republic city -- maybe it woulda been better if there was more to the law process (like how USA has the 3 branches of gov) but it seems that Tarlok is having an unfair advantage through blood bending or such, or somehow forcing the others to agree with him. I think, in consideration that there is no corruption, the 5 councilmen thing isn't too bad. However, passing a law with 4 out of 5 votes is a bit meh to me. Maybe 8 out of 9?
If 20% of the represented people don't agree, I don't think that law is a good enough idea.
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Also, seems like we saw a higher level of bending as seen commonly in TLA. Or at least, great bending feats, I guess. As I thought earlier, the reason why most of the bending we saw was so "small" was because many of the fights were because of close-combat with chi blockers, where they don't have as much room nor time to "charge up" their attacks. They got to go for speed.
Here, when they are far apart and having nothing to worry about (no one else to get hurt), Korra and Tarlok start flinging shit all over. That was awesome. And it seemed Korra so easily set those flying stones back down, when the police were trying to capture the civilians.
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Btw guys, that guy in the flashbacks can't be Tarlok. He seems to be 40-60, probably like 45 or 50 in the flashbacks. Tarlok seems like he's 35 or 40. The flashbacks were long in the past.
Seems like they won't be moving out of Republic City just yet -- I think the 2nd season will revolve around more "global" settings. I think the end of Season 1 will be something like Korra and the others finally being forced to leave (in any kind of way) to go elsewhere to finish what they need to do, or at least maybe they will be viewed as enemies of the city, or such. I think it could be the kind of dramatic "twist" that they usually have in TLA season finales.
Maybe xD
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So if Amon=Tarlok, cant his method to stop bending involve bloodbending!?
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Also another thing -- I didn't quite like the exaggerated fighting. What I mean is, Tarlok falling from where he was hanging on should have hurt A LOT. Maybe he got a softer fall since the whole area came off, so he didn't just fall by himself. IDK, but it wasn't clear to me.
And also Korra being flung against that wall -- that far away, and then falling to the ground. That should hurt a LOT as well, but it seems they might have a slight slight "DBZ syndrome". This level is ok, but anymore and it will start taking away from the realistic-ness of the martial arts and will detract from my enjoyment >.<
Also I like how she got cut by the ice, but there was no blood. Actual violence! =O And also her somehow getting a bloody cut on her face -- I guess it was the ice or maybe the earth flying around -- there's blood in that instance but it didn't show directly how it happened, love how it's staying under Y7 while keeping it realistic while not too intense for littler kids.
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On June 03 2012 13:33 Spicy_Curry wrote:
So if Amon=Tarlok, cant his method to stop bending involve bloodbending!?
I really doubt that Amon is Tarrlok.
+ Show Spoiler +Tarrlok showed a lot of animosity when Korra compared him to Amon. That kind of hatred towards someone definitely excludes the idea that Amon is Tarrlok, unless he was somehow bipolar.
Also, I was expecting Lin to show up somewhere in the episode, with the whole "doing it my way" mentality last episode. Ah, well, we still have a couple episodes for this season.
And I realize that Naga is still waiting for Korra. T-T
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+ Show Spoiler +I'm really confused. How do we know this guy is named Yakonne and why do we know he was part of some bloodbending triad or something (according to that theory linked above) did I miss something? And how do we know katara is involved? And why do we know it was 42 years ago? Basically, can someone explain this backstory? O.o
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