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On September 03 2014 20:39 MaZza[KIS] wrote: without spoilers, the best thing about season 2 is episodes 7 and 8 :D... keep watching
I thought you were talking about AtLA at first and thought "hmm, Zuko Alone and The Chase are really good, but I like the Blind Bandit more"
then I realized you were talking about Korra
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On September 04 2014 02:58 ]343[ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2014 20:39 MaZza[KIS] wrote: without spoilers, the best thing about season 2 is episodes 7 and 8 :D... keep watching I thought you were talking about AtLA at first and thought "hmm, Zuko Alone and The Chase are really good, but I like the Blind Bandit more" then I realized you were talking about Korra
Appa's lost days... liek dis if u cry evrytim
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On September 04 2014 05:51 scudst0rm wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2014 02:58 ]343[ wrote:On September 03 2014 20:39 MaZza[KIS] wrote: without spoilers, the best thing about season 2 is episodes 7 and 8 :D... keep watching I thought you were talking about AtLA at first and thought "hmm, Zuko Alone and The Chase are really good, but I like the Blind Bandit more" then I realized you were talking about Korra Appa's lost days... liek dis if u cry evrytim Sad times indeed
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On September 04 2014 05:51 scudst0rm wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2014 02:58 ]343[ wrote:On September 03 2014 20:39 MaZza[KIS] wrote: without spoilers, the best thing about season 2 is episodes 7 and 8 :D... keep watching I thought you were talking about AtLA at first and thought "hmm, Zuko Alone and The Chase are really good, but I like the Blind Bandit more" then I realized you were talking about Korra Appa's lost days... liek dis if u cry evrytim
I really love how the Tale of Momo from the the previous episode led into Appa's Lost Days!
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On September 04 2014 08:26 ]343[ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2014 05:51 scudst0rm wrote:On September 04 2014 02:58 ]343[ wrote:On September 03 2014 20:39 MaZza[KIS] wrote: without spoilers, the best thing about season 2 is episodes 7 and 8 :D... keep watching I thought you were talking about AtLA at first and thought "hmm, Zuko Alone and The Chase are really good, but I like the Blind Bandit more" then I realized you were talking about Korra Appa's lost days... liek dis if u cry evrytim I really love how the Tale of Momo from the the previous episode led into Appa's Lost Days! That episode was quality. The Tale of Iroh had my cryin
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Everything about when zuko and iroh are in ba sing sa is best in show. I don't think s3 eps are better in anyway but togeather they're a lot better then the story going on in the other books.
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On September 04 2014 05:51 scudst0rm wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2014 02:58 ]343[ wrote:On September 03 2014 20:39 MaZza[KIS] wrote: without spoilers, the best thing about season 2 is episodes 7 and 8 :D... keep watching I thought you were talking about AtLA at first and thought "hmm, Zuko Alone and The Chase are really good, but I like the Blind Bandit more" then I realized you were talking about Korra Appa's lost days... liek dis if u cry evrytim Appa is actually one of the biggest reasons I like TLA.
"Tale of Iroh" is definitely the saddest moment in the entire series though. That and the Zuko Alone flashbacks were really something special.
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So I finally finished Legend of Korra. I really like it. I made a stop after the first two books to watch The Last Airbender books first. I enjoyed them as well allthough I feel TLA had way too many filler. Like the most of the middle part of each book were a whole bunch of filler. I also feel that the character and story writing in LOK is way superior to that in TLA. A lot of characters in TLA weren't consistent and felt off, e.g. Katara and Aang. The humor was great in both maybe a bit better in TLA (Sokka and Toph are hilarious). Definitly looking forward to the fourth book. I guess it's still not certain when the new book will start airing?
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On September 05 2014 00:48 Miragee wrote: So I finally finished Legend of Korra. I really like it. I made a stop after the first two books to watch The Last Airbender books first. I enjoyed them as well allthough I feel TLA had way too many filler. Like the most of the middle part of each book were a whole bunch of filler. I also feel that the character and story writing in LOK is way superior to that in TLA. A lot of characters in TLA weren't consistent and felt off, e.g. Katara and Aang. The humor was great in both maybe a bit better in TLA (Sokka and Toph are hilarious). Definitly looking forward to the fourth book. I guess it's still not certain when the new book will start airing? There are rumors going around that book 4 might happen before this next February so hopefully those are right.
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Well, I don't really like how Korra cycles through villains. TLA had Zuko, Azula, and Ozai last for quite a while, and it was pretty clear that Zhao and Long Feng were meant to be throwaway from the start. Amon and Unalaq, the main villains of their seasons, were killed off quite quickly. Perhaps S4 won't make the same mistake given the fact that the ending of this season is quite inconclusive by comparison to S1/S2? (and Zaheer survived)
P.S.: Given that the guard for the four prisons was pretty relaxed, anyone find it odd that no one tried to rescue any of them? It's pretty clear that some rather strong benders support the Red Lotus (ex: Aiwei).
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On September 05 2014 01:40 LegalLord wrote: Well, I don't really like how Korra cycles through villains. TLA had Zuko, Azula, and Ozai last for quite a while, and it was pretty clear that Zhao and Long Feng were meant to be throwaway from the start. Amon and Unalaq, the main villains of their seasons, were killed off quite quickly. Perhaps S4 won't make the same mistake given the fact that the ending of this season is quite inconclusive by comparison to S1/S2? (and Zaheer survived)
P.S.: Given that the guard for the four prisons was pretty relaxed, anyone find it odd that no one tried to rescue any of them? It's pretty clear that some rather strong benders support the Red Lotus (ex: Aiwei).
Maybe it's possible that they kept it secret where they were hidden. Of course Zuko and others knew where to find the prisons because they captured them originally (I think, correct me if I'm remembering that wrong). Zaheer had that power to locate people so once he escaped he just found where the other prisons were and broke them out himself. But that is an interesting point. They all got out of prison pretty quickly so if the locations were public knowledge the Red Lotus definitely would have tried to bust them out.
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Not even Eska and Desna knw about P'Li's prison, so i guess it was White Lotus-only knowledge.
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Zaheer's psychic powers seemed to be the use of informants through the spirit world. I suppose he has the same spirit power as Jinora to locate people he knows?
But I think Zaheer would have had the spirit powers before, since Iroh and Aiwei show that it's not an airbending power. If he could locate the others, he could tell someone.
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On September 05 2014 02:32 LegalLord wrote: Zaheer's psychic powers seemed to be the use of informants through the spirit world. I suppose he has the same spirit power as Jinora to locate people he knows?
But I think Zaheer would have had the spirit powers before, since Iroh and Aiwei show that it's not an airbending power. If he could locate the others, he could tell someone.
I think a better explanation is that they have moles in the White Lotus, who told Aiwei, who in turn told Zaheer, where the prisons are. We don't actually know if Zaheer can locate others or even project his spirit like Jinora does, all we know is that he can enter the spirit world now. It is also pretty obvious that Aiwei told him that Korra is in Zaofu. Also, when the ship crashed in the desert they said they probably won't find her in time, so i'm pretty sure he cant locate people.
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On September 05 2014 03:08 Warri wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2014 02:32 LegalLord wrote: Zaheer's psychic powers seemed to be the use of informants through the spirit world. I suppose he has the same spirit power as Jinora to locate people he knows?
But I think Zaheer would have had the spirit powers before, since Iroh and Aiwei show that it's not an airbending power. If he could locate the others, he could tell someone. I think a better explanation is that they have moles in the White Lotus, who told Aiwei, who in turn told Zaheer, where the prisons are. We don't actually know if Zaheer can locate others or even project his spirit like Jinora does, all we know is that he can enter the spirit world now. It is also pretty obvious that Aiwei told him that Korra is in Zaofu. Also, when the ship crashed in the desert they said they probably won't find her in time, so i'm pretty sure he cant locate people. Well Jinora could only locate people close to her, so Zaheer would only be able to locate the other three members of the Red Lotus.
If Aiwei knew where the four were located, why couldn't someone from the RL rescue them? If they have a mole, it would be as easy as slipping Ghazan a few pebbles so he could bend out of there.
I think the answer is something along the lines of that Zaheer's prison was somehow spirit-sealed.
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On September 05 2014 01:40 LegalLord wrote: Well, I don't really like how Korra cycles through villains. TLA had Zuko, Azula, and Ozai last for quite a while, and it was pretty clear that Zhao and Long Feng were meant to be throwaway from the start. Amon and Unalaq, the main villains of their seasons, were killed off quite quickly. Perhaps S4 won't make the same mistake given the fact that the ending of this season is quite inconclusive by comparison to S1/S2? (and Zaheer survived)
P.S.: Given that the guard for the four prisons was pretty relaxed, anyone find it odd that no one tried to rescue any of them? It's pretty clear that some rather strong benders support the Red Lotus (ex: Aiwei).
Agreed on the villain part. Here's how the villains have been:
- Amon. Great villain. Bone-chilling demeanour, sort of OP and then you realise his true power and he's super OP. Korra and Mako Deus Ex Machina their way out of the fight and the writers go "Yeah he was too OP. Kill him off and let's never address the equalist movement again." Seriously, why did hundreds/thousands of people so easily disappear because Amon was a shit leader. Where's the lieutenant!? He was a great villain with flashbacks, cool personality and sweet powers, but none of that was ever paid off in the way it could have been both story and combat wise.
- Unalaq. Terrible villain. Un-understandable motivations. Too obviously evil. Evil for evil's sake. Making dark spirits dark and attack only some people was just plot convenience every time. When they mentioned him in season 3 I thought he'd actually finally get character growth. You know, after he was gone. But hey, at least he got big and red and that was cool. I'll always remember him as the nobody who existed for a Godzilla inspired fight.
- Zaheer + the gang. Good villains. Not as cool as Amon individually, but as a group it was quite cool. But lava guy and combustion girl too OP, so had to kill them. Lava guy's death was dumb if he is dead (knowing how avatar handles it, he is). Water arms killed off for consistency. Zaheer got a sweet final fight at least, and this time at least the villain's motivations were more clear. If combustion girl had survived, I'd believe Zaheer will return and that the other two hadn't died either.
So totally agree. The main problem with all the villains was lack of build up, and even though Zaheer and co were the most built up, I'd still watch Azula over Zaheer easily. A good story includes a good villain. And a good villain needs more than some on screen presence showing they are an evil badass.
There's some theories about the s4 villain, but I don't know if I should mention them and allow people to search on their own. But I'd go with a brand new villain, even if maybe connected to red lotus or something else.
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On September 05 2014 14:36 bittman wrote: - Amon. Great villain. Bone-chilling demeanour, sort of OP and then you realise his true power and he's super OP. Korra and Mako Deus Ex Machina their way out of the fight and the writers go "Yeah he was too OP. Kill him off and let's never address the equalist movement again." Seriously, why did hundreds/thousands of people so easily disappear because Amon was a shit leader. Where's the lieutenant!? He was a great villain with flashbacks, cool personality and sweet powers, but none of that was ever paid off in the way it could have been both story and combat wise. After the events of the finale, the council of benders has been discharged. A nonbender is elected president. Theres a 6 month jump between s1 and s2. Enough time to calm the moods. I agree with you that they should have shown more of the aftermath, but its not a 20episode season like ATLA so what can they do.
On September 05 2014 14:36 bittman wrote: - Unalaq. Terrible villain. Un-understandable motivations. Too obviously evil. Evil for evil's sake. Making dark spirits dark and attack only some people was just plot convenience every time. When they mentioned him in season 3 I thought he'd actually finally get character growth. You know, after he was gone. But hey, at least he got big and red and that was cool. I'll always remember him as the nobody who existed for a Godzilla inspired fight. I guess more people agree with you on this one, which is one of the reasons the season is rated worse than 1 & 3. I woudn't say un-understandable motivations though. He did a lot of research about spirits and obviously knew about Raava too. He probably thought if he freed and merged with Vaatu he could legitemately become another avatar and control the spirit, much like Korra is still Korra and controls Raava. Turns out he was wrong and consumed by Vaatu though.
On September 05 2014 14:36 bittman wrote: - Zaheer + the gang. Good villains. Not as cool as Amon individually, but as a group it was quite cool. But lava guy and combustion girl too OP, so had to kill them. Lava guy's death was dumb if he is dead (knowing how avatar handles it, he is). Water arms killed off for consistency. Zaheer got a sweet final fight at least, and this time at least the villain's motivations were more clear. If combustion girl had survived, I'd believe Zaheer will return and that the other two hadn't died either. It was confirmed in an interview with the creators that PLi Ghazan and Ming-Hua are dead. I can see Zaheer returning in s4, since the red lotus is still around and it's leader (i forgot his name, Zaheer mentions him in the spirit world when talking to korra) maybe still alive too.
On September 05 2014 14:36 bittman wrote: So totally agree. The main problem with all the villains was lack of build up, and even though Zaheer and co were the most built up, I'd still watch Azula over Zaheer easily. A good story includes a good villain. And a good villain needs more than some on screen presence showing they are an evil badass.
I've mentioned it in this thread already, but i really dont understand why people rate the villains in ATLA so highly. Only Iroh and Zuko are in any way interesting. The firelord is really the 0815 bad conqueror wanting more territory and Azula is the crazy flawless bitch, right until the very last episode. ATLA had more time to show their backgrounds, but their characters just weren't interesting to me.
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On September 05 2014 21:18 Warri wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2014 14:36 bittman wrote:If combustion girl had survived, I'd believe Zaheer will return and that the other two hadn't died either. It was confirmed in an interview with the creators that PLi Ghazan and Ming-Hua are dead. I can see Zaheer returning in s4, since the red lotus is still around and it's leader (i forgot his name, Zaheer mentions him in the spirit world when talking to korra) maybe still alive too.
http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Xai_Bau
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So it looks like Book 4 is confirmed to be "Balance". I'm so hyped already and i don't want it to end
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