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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 10 2013 13:27 GMT
#3561
This whole season has been a product of Korra being dumb so think that's the most likely reason she went to try close the first portal even though it seems like it wouldn't matter.
Paperplane
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands1823 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 14:03:56
November 10 2013 14:00 GMT
#3562
I think I just realized the final plot, it's so obvious when you think about it.

+ Show Spoiler [S2 ending theory] +
Unalak wants to seal vaatu inside himself and become the "dark avatar". That's why he's so eager to free vaatu despite him trying to destroy the world etc.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
November 10 2013 14:47 GMT
#3563
On November 10 2013 23:00 Paperplane wrote:
I think I just realized the final plot, it's so obvious when you think about it.

+ Show Spoiler [S2 ending theory] +
Unalak wants to seal vaatu inside himself and become the "dark avatar". That's why he's so eager to free vaatu despite him trying to destroy the world etc.

It's been the popular theory for a while now.
Paperplane
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands1823 Posts
November 10 2013 14:59 GMT
#3564
On November 10 2013 23:47 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 23:00 Paperplane wrote:
I think I just realized the final plot, it's so obvious when you think about it.

+ Show Spoiler [S2 ending theory] +
Unalak wants to seal vaatu inside himself and become the "dark avatar". That's why he's so eager to free vaatu despite him trying to destroy the world etc.

It's been the popular theory for a while now.


Ah well I don't really read too much reddit etc : )
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2552 Posts
November 10 2013 19:22 GMT
#3565
Seriously? Really? Reeeeeallly?
Come on. That's just embarrassing. That's like having the president hand over a nuclear missile to a bunch of terrorists because they had a person hostage. Holy shit Korra is by far the most incompetent avatar to have ever existed. What did she really think would happen when she opened the portal? That they'd give Jinora back and let her live? The objectivley best think Korra can do right now is die and hope that the next reincarnation of the Avatar isn't as much of an absolute moron as her.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
November 10 2013 19:25 GMT
#3566
On November 11 2013 04:22 Hyperbola wrote:
Seriously? Really? Reeeeeallly?
Come on. That's just embarrassing. That's like having the president hand over a nuclear missile to a bunch of terrorists because they had a person hostage. Holy shit Korra is by far the most incompetent avatar to have ever existed. What did she really think would happen when she opened the portal? That they'd give Jinora back and let her live? The objectivley best think Korra can do right now is die and hope that the next reincarnation of the Avatar isn't as much of an absolute moron as her.

It is, at its heart, a children's show. Do you really expect Korra to say 'yes I'm going to sacrifice my master's daughter because logically it's the best thing to do.'
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 10 2013 19:54 GMT
#3567
It tricks you sometimes into thinking it's not a children's show at it's heart. Like that Wan dying ep was way too intense. I just wish Western animation had the balls to get more serious. It's obvious that they can do it really well if they just wanted to.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
November 10 2013 23:24 GMT
#3568
On November 11 2013 04:54 Numy wrote:
It tricks you sometimes into thinking it's not a children's show at it's heart. Like that Wan dying ep was way too intense. I just wish Western animation had the balls to get more serious. It's obvious that they can do it really well if they just wanted to.

;_; that wan dying bit...omg so good so sad also was really useful to explain the cycle.
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
November 10 2013 23:41 GMT
#3569
On November 11 2013 04:22 Hyperbola wrote:
Seriously? Really? Reeeeeallly?
Come on. That's just embarrassing. That's like having the president hand over a nuclear missile to a bunch of terrorists because they had a person hostage. Holy shit Korra is by far the most incompetent avatar to have ever existed. What did she really think would happen when she opened the portal? That they'd give Jinora back and let her live? The objectivley best think Korra can do right now is die and hope that the next reincarnation of the Avatar isn't as much of an absolute moron as her.

You mean the part where there is no avatar powerful enough to do literally anything for 10K years because BBES will just keep it in check? Yeah, clearly the best course of action.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
November 11 2013 01:07 GMT
#3570
On November 11 2013 08:41 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2013 04:22 Hyperbola wrote:
Seriously? Really? Reeeeeallly?
Come on. That's just embarrassing. That's like having the president hand over a nuclear missile to a bunch of terrorists because they had a person hostage. Holy shit Korra is by far the most incompetent avatar to have ever existed. What did she really think would happen when she opened the portal? That they'd give Jinora back and let her live? The objectivley best think Korra can do right now is die and hope that the next reincarnation of the Avatar isn't as much of an absolute moron as her.

You mean the part where there is no avatar powerful enough to do literally anything for 10K years because BBES will just keep it in check? Yeah, clearly the best course of action.

Curse that Bollman Bridge Elementary School!
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2552 Posts
November 11 2013 01:21 GMT
#3571
On November 11 2013 08:41 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2013 04:22 Hyperbola wrote:
Seriously? Really? Reeeeeallly?
Come on. That's just embarrassing. That's like having the president hand over a nuclear missile to a bunch of terrorists because they had a person hostage. Holy shit Korra is by far the most incompetent avatar to have ever existed. What did she really think would happen when she opened the portal? That they'd give Jinora back and let her live? The objectivley best think Korra can do right now is die and hope that the next reincarnation of the Avatar isn't as much of an absolute moron as her.

You mean the part where there is no avatar powerful enough to do literally anything for 10K years because BBES will just keep it in check? Yeah, clearly the best course of action.

You know, if Korra killed herself at the beginning of this season, absolutely nothing bad would have happened. The south may have still been invaded, but there's no way that the north could afford such a long-range war with the south over a long period of time. Dark spirits would stop being a problem after harmonic convergence passed and the portals would have never opened. Everything Korra has done this season has only made the situation worse. While she may be more useful alive and able to fight Vaatu, what makes you think she won't just mess the world up even more? The fact remains that she is objectively the worst avatar to have ever existed.
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Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
November 11 2013 01:30 GMT
#3572
On November 11 2013 10:21 Hyperbola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2013 08:41 Gahlo wrote:
On November 11 2013 04:22 Hyperbola wrote:
Seriously? Really? Reeeeeallly?
Come on. That's just embarrassing. That's like having the president hand over a nuclear missile to a bunch of terrorists because they had a person hostage. Holy shit Korra is by far the most incompetent avatar to have ever existed. What did she really think would happen when she opened the portal? That they'd give Jinora back and let her live? The objectivley best think Korra can do right now is die and hope that the next reincarnation of the Avatar isn't as much of an absolute moron as her.

You mean the part where there is no avatar powerful enough to do literally anything for 10K years because BBES will just keep it in check? Yeah, clearly the best course of action.

You know, if Korra killed herself at the beginning of this season, absolutely nothing bad would have happened. The south may have still been invaded, but there's no way that the north could afford such a long-range war with the south over a long period of time. Dark spirits would stop being a problem after harmonic convergence passed and the portals would have never opened. Everything Korra has done this season has only made the situation worse. While she may be more useful alive and able to fight Vaatu, what makes you think she won't just mess the world up even more? The fact remains that she is objectively the worst avatar to have ever existed.

...yes lets just teach children that if you ever come across a problem its best to just kill urself and let someone else deal with it...wtf
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-11 01:37:49
November 11 2013 01:33 GMT
#3573
On November 11 2013 10:21 Hyperbola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2013 08:41 Gahlo wrote:
On November 11 2013 04:22 Hyperbola wrote:
Seriously? Really? Reeeeeallly?
Come on. That's just embarrassing. That's like having the president hand over a nuclear missile to a bunch of terrorists because they had a person hostage. Holy shit Korra is by far the most incompetent avatar to have ever existed. What did she really think would happen when she opened the portal? That they'd give Jinora back and let her live? The objectivley best think Korra can do right now is die and hope that the next reincarnation of the Avatar isn't as much of an absolute moron as her.

You mean the part where there is no avatar powerful enough to do literally anything for 10K years because BBES will just keep it in check? Yeah, clearly the best course of action.

You know, if Korra killed herself at the beginning of this season, absolutely nothing bad would have happened. The south may have still been invaded, but there's no way that the north could afford such a long-range war with the south over a long period of time. Dark spirits would stop being a problem after harmonic convergence passed and the portals would have never opened. Everything Korra has done this season has only made the situation worse. While she may be more useful alive and able to fight Vaatu, what makes you think she won't just mess the world up even more? The fact remains that she is objectively the worst avatar to have ever existed.

It would have been the first convergence where one spirit was on one plane and the other was on another. Nobody knows for sure what would have happened.

If we're giving Korra the genre savvy 4th wall awareness to make her want to kill herself to not mess things up, she'd also know that she can stay alive to get to the end of the season where she fixes everything.

Also, yeah, completely valid to say she's the worst ever when she's only lived through less than 1/10th of her natural lifespan and we don't know the full timeline of ANY avatar over the last 10k years.

Living up to your name here.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
November 11 2013 01:37 GMT
#3574
On November 11 2013 10:21 Hyperbola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2013 08:41 Gahlo wrote:
On November 11 2013 04:22 Hyperbola wrote:
Seriously? Really? Reeeeeallly?
Come on. That's just embarrassing. That's like having the president hand over a nuclear missile to a bunch of terrorists because they had a person hostage. Holy shit Korra is by far the most incompetent avatar to have ever existed. What did she really think would happen when she opened the portal? That they'd give Jinora back and let her live? The objectivley best think Korra can do right now is die and hope that the next reincarnation of the Avatar isn't as much of an absolute moron as her.

You mean the part where there is no avatar powerful enough to do literally anything for 10K years because BBES will just keep it in check? Yeah, clearly the best course of action.

You know, if Korra killed herself at the beginning of this season, absolutely nothing bad would have happened. The south may have still been invaded, but there's no way that the north could afford such a long-range war with the south over a long period of time. Dark spirits would stop being a problem after harmonic convergence passed and the portals would have never opened. Everything Korra has done this season has only made the situation worse. While she may be more useful alive and able to fight Vaatu, what makes you think she won't just mess the world up even more? The fact remains that she is objectively the worst avatar to have ever existed.

I dunno. There was another Avatar that kinda ran away from a war that ended up going on for over a hundred years. Pretty sure a lot of people died in that war.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Millitron
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2611 Posts
November 12 2013 00:31 GMT
#3575
On November 11 2013 10:37 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2013 10:21 Hyperbola wrote:
On November 11 2013 08:41 Gahlo wrote:
On November 11 2013 04:22 Hyperbola wrote:
Seriously? Really? Reeeeeallly?
Come on. That's just embarrassing. That's like having the president hand over a nuclear missile to a bunch of terrorists because they had a person hostage. Holy shit Korra is by far the most incompetent avatar to have ever existed. What did she really think would happen when she opened the portal? That they'd give Jinora back and let her live? The objectivley best think Korra can do right now is die and hope that the next reincarnation of the Avatar isn't as much of an absolute moron as her.

You mean the part where there is no avatar powerful enough to do literally anything for 10K years because BBES will just keep it in check? Yeah, clearly the best course of action.

You know, if Korra killed herself at the beginning of this season, absolutely nothing bad would have happened. The south may have still been invaded, but there's no way that the north could afford such a long-range war with the south over a long period of time. Dark spirits would stop being a problem after harmonic convergence passed and the portals would have never opened. Everything Korra has done this season has only made the situation worse. While she may be more useful alive and able to fight Vaatu, what makes you think she won't just mess the world up even more? The fact remains that she is objectively the worst avatar to have ever existed.

I dunno. There was another Avatar that kinda ran away from a war that ended up going on for over a hundred years. Pretty sure a lot of people died in that war.

Not too many. Just Jet and Zhao.
Who called in the fleet?
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
November 12 2013 00:57 GMT
#3576
On November 12 2013 09:31 Millitron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2013 10:37 obesechicken13 wrote:
On November 11 2013 10:21 Hyperbola wrote:
On November 11 2013 08:41 Gahlo wrote:
On November 11 2013 04:22 Hyperbola wrote:
Seriously? Really? Reeeeeallly?
Come on. That's just embarrassing. That's like having the president hand over a nuclear missile to a bunch of terrorists because they had a person hostage. Holy shit Korra is by far the most incompetent avatar to have ever existed. What did she really think would happen when she opened the portal? That they'd give Jinora back and let her live? The objectivley best think Korra can do right now is die and hope that the next reincarnation of the Avatar isn't as much of an absolute moron as her.

You mean the part where there is no avatar powerful enough to do literally anything for 10K years because BBES will just keep it in check? Yeah, clearly the best course of action.

You know, if Korra killed herself at the beginning of this season, absolutely nothing bad would have happened. The south may have still been invaded, but there's no way that the north could afford such a long-range war with the south over a long period of time. Dark spirits would stop being a problem after harmonic convergence passed and the portals would have never opened. Everything Korra has done this season has only made the situation worse. While she may be more useful alive and able to fight Vaatu, what makes you think she won't just mess the world up even more? The fact remains that she is objectively the worst avatar to have ever existed.

I dunno. There was another Avatar that kinda ran away from a war that ended up going on for over a hundred years. Pretty sure a lot of people died in that war.

Not too many. Just Jet and Zhao.

yeah...about those air benders
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-12 09:50:13
November 12 2013 09:49 GMT
#3577
On November 12 2013 09:31 Millitron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2013 10:37 obesechicken13 wrote:
On November 11 2013 10:21 Hyperbola wrote:
On November 11 2013 08:41 Gahlo wrote:
On November 11 2013 04:22 Hyperbola wrote:
Seriously? Really? Reeeeeallly?
Come on. That's just embarrassing. That's like having the president hand over a nuclear missile to a bunch of terrorists because they had a person hostage. Holy shit Korra is by far the most incompetent avatar to have ever existed. What did she really think would happen when she opened the portal? That they'd give Jinora back and let her live? The objectivley best think Korra can do right now is die and hope that the next reincarnation of the Avatar isn't as much of an absolute moron as her.

You mean the part where there is no avatar powerful enough to do literally anything for 10K years because BBES will just keep it in check? Yeah, clearly the best course of action.

You know, if Korra killed herself at the beginning of this season, absolutely nothing bad would have happened. The south may have still been invaded, but there's no way that the north could afford such a long-range war with the south over a long period of time. Dark spirits would stop being a problem after harmonic convergence passed and the portals would have never opened. Everything Korra has done this season has only made the situation worse. While she may be more useful alive and able to fight Vaatu, what makes you think she won't just mess the world up even more? The fact remains that she is objectively the worst avatar to have ever existed.

I dunno. There was another Avatar that kinda ran away from a war that ended up going on for over a hundred years. Pretty sure a lot of people died in that war.

Not too many. Just Jet and Zhao.


Avatar Wiki wrote:
Including Tui's death in "The Siege of the North, Part 2" and Aang's fatal injury sustained in "The Crossroads of Destiny", from which they both were resurrected shortly thereafter, Jet was the fifth of nine characters to have been observed dying or being murdered in the original series. In chronological order, the others were Tui, Yue, Zhao, Chin, Aang, Roku, Fang, and Combustion Man.




and lol Shock710 is right ^^
Writer
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
November 12 2013 21:50 GMT
#3578
Before the last episode it was fairly obvious the writers wrote Korra to be a retarded immature person so as to give her room to develop. They made it super obvious with her entering the spirit realm as a toddler while Jinora stayed the same. I was surprised, however, to see that made her an "adult" after she made it to the summit, signifying her maturity now. If the writers consider her character development to be finished for this season and she has been resolved I will be super disappointed.

Part of the reason why TLA was so good was that they had Zuko who started off as an incredibly unlikable, immature kid with daddy issues. The whole first season was pretty much set up for Zuko to be a huge dick to everyone including Iroh, and then they spent a whole 1.5 seasons on him dealing with his internal conflicts before, finally, in the latter half of the last season he is able to resolve his internal conflicts and become a polar opposite of what he once was. I mean, I don't really have to explain this to anyone to who watched TLA, Zuko's character was one of the pillars of the TLA storyline but it took nearly 3 seasons for them to fully flesh it out. Giving us just one season for Korra's character development is already cutting it down close, and doing it as they have so far.. it just hasn't been handled as well as it was during TLA.
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
November 12 2013 21:56 GMT
#3579
On November 13 2013 06:50 ZeaL. wrote: If the writers consider her character development to be finished for this season and she has been resolved I will be super disappointed.


Even if they consider her "done for the season" (which, hopefully, is a big if considering there's still 4 episodes to go), there are still two more seasons to go afterward... so they can't be totally done with her!
Writer
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
November 12 2013 22:39 GMT
#3580
Well I guess I have to trust the writers and hope they do continue to develop her. It just seems like this season was to be Korra's character development season and we're getting close to the end...
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