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On November 09 2013 16:39 Shock710 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2013 16:33 Foblos wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Whooooo Iroh! Hopefully we get to find out what happened to Zuko's mom soon.I thought this was a completely kick ass episode. I thought it was super metaphorical/indicative the entire episode, with there being 2 paths inside that croc thing (Jinora = light/peace Korra = confusion/doubt), the young Korra (confusion/doubt) and Old Korra (much more in line with Ra'ava) and the fact that the Avatar can control the spirit world as Ra'ava does and also have a (implied) huge impact on the real world. People are complaining about not letting Jinora die and I'm going to address this more fully in the next spoiler block below, but I see this as a major developmental point for Korra. I think the Korra before meeting Wan/Ra'ava who was an abrasive headstrong tomboy would have probably let her die to "do the Avatar duty", but post-Wan Korra is moving back into the spirit of the Avatar (notice how even kid Korra wasn't abrasive and headstrong like she was in S1E1, but more meek and teachable?)
On November 09 2013 14:42 Kinie wrote:So is there a link for the preview of next week's episode or no? Didn't get a chance to watch it live but saw it online through other means, which didn't have the preview. And I'll put the rest of my thoughts in spoiler text: + Show Spoiler + Though knowing her, after tying up the Varrik issues she'll be headstrong, say she has to do it alone and we'll see her fail/losing in the fight (probably cause Vaatu + Unalaq will tag team her) then have the rest of the Team show up in a Big Damn Heroes moment and, best case scenario, is we get a good 10-15 minutes of action for the season finale.
+ Show Spoiler + I've been saying this for a little while, but I think that the Wan 2-parter was a major character development for Korra. There are interviews with the show runners who have openly acknowledged that Korra is abrasive, and intentionally so, and that they have intentions of changing that. It seems to me like gradually the Avatar drifted away from from Wan/Ra'ava's purposes until it got to the point that the greatest Avatar we had ever seen (Aang) turned out to be a complete failure of a parent and someone that history looks back on with mixed feelings. Then we get Korra who is just a complete failure character wise and can't do anything but screw up. Her personality gets temporarily wiped by the weird dark spirit and then she sees (I assume) the entire life of Wan including the parts we didn't see (if not what we saw was still enough) before being rebooted and remembering her life and inheriting that memory. The next few episodes showed a much kinder, gentler, more humble Korra that saw others as worth learning from instead of stepping stones to mastering what it means to be the Avatar.
All this to say, no, I don't think she'll be headstrong, but I think in the end the entire group is going to be engaged in strategic "war efforts" where their skills are best applied, but as a team. I do think it is feasible that Korra will be the only one to fight Va'tu though, simply because I don't think she will do the logical thing (sprint to the nearest portal and close it) but will rather let the Harmonic Convergence play out and have a Ra'ava/Avatar fight with Va'tu.)
The zuko mum's storyline has been "finished" (basically finished in the comics they released) i doubt they'll animated anything to do with zuko mum's story development. edit: can i add links? im not sure...but here they are part 1: http://www.mangahere.com/manga/avatar_the_last_airbender_the_search/c001/part 2: https://www.mangaeden.com/en-manga/avatar-the-last-airbender---the-search/2/1/part 3: i had to watch on youtube, someone took pics of the comic XD u can just google for it
Thanks man. Thoughts in spoilers
+ Show Spoiler + OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG that was so awesome. So sad I didn't know about it before. Are the others as good as this? The entire arc was just incredible. Everything I thought was going to happen didn't, though I did guess the Ikem thing. I'm curious about Azula though, and what happened there. I feel like she went to look for the Mother of Faces...but I'd like to know how that all ends. Is that out anywhere yet?
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On November 09 2013 19:18 Foblos wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2013 16:39 Shock710 wrote:On November 09 2013 16:33 Foblos wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Whooooo Iroh! Hopefully we get to find out what happened to Zuko's mom soon.I thought this was a completely kick ass episode. I thought it was super metaphorical/indicative the entire episode, with there being 2 paths inside that croc thing (Jinora = light/peace Korra = confusion/doubt), the young Korra (confusion/doubt) and Old Korra (much more in line with Ra'ava) and the fact that the Avatar can control the spirit world as Ra'ava does and also have a (implied) huge impact on the real world. People are complaining about not letting Jinora die and I'm going to address this more fully in the next spoiler block below, but I see this as a major developmental point for Korra. I think the Korra before meeting Wan/Ra'ava who was an abrasive headstrong tomboy would have probably let her die to "do the Avatar duty", but post-Wan Korra is moving back into the spirit of the Avatar (notice how even kid Korra wasn't abrasive and headstrong like she was in S1E1, but more meek and teachable?)
On November 09 2013 14:42 Kinie wrote:So is there a link for the preview of next week's episode or no? Didn't get a chance to watch it live but saw it online through other means, which didn't have the preview. And I'll put the rest of my thoughts in spoiler text: + Show Spoiler + Though knowing her, after tying up the Varrik issues she'll be headstrong, say she has to do it alone and we'll see her fail/losing in the fight (probably cause Vaatu + Unalaq will tag team her) then have the rest of the Team show up in a Big Damn Heroes moment and, best case scenario, is we get a good 10-15 minutes of action for the season finale.
+ Show Spoiler + I've been saying this for a little while, but I think that the Wan 2-parter was a major character development for Korra. There are interviews with the show runners who have openly acknowledged that Korra is abrasive, and intentionally so, and that they have intentions of changing that. It seems to me like gradually the Avatar drifted away from from Wan/Ra'ava's purposes until it got to the point that the greatest Avatar we had ever seen (Aang) turned out to be a complete failure of a parent and someone that history looks back on with mixed feelings. Then we get Korra who is just a complete failure character wise and can't do anything but screw up. Her personality gets temporarily wiped by the weird dark spirit and then she sees (I assume) the entire life of Wan including the parts we didn't see (if not what we saw was still enough) before being rebooted and remembering her life and inheriting that memory. The next few episodes showed a much kinder, gentler, more humble Korra that saw others as worth learning from instead of stepping stones to mastering what it means to be the Avatar.
All this to say, no, I don't think she'll be headstrong, but I think in the end the entire group is going to be engaged in strategic "war efforts" where their skills are best applied, but as a team. I do think it is feasible that Korra will be the only one to fight Va'tu though, simply because I don't think she will do the logical thing (sprint to the nearest portal and close it) but will rather let the Harmonic Convergence play out and have a Ra'ava/Avatar fight with Va'tu.)
The zuko mum's storyline has been "finished" (basically finished in the comics they released) i doubt they'll animated anything to do with zuko mum's story development. edit: can i add links? im not sure...but here they are part 1: http://www.mangahere.com/manga/avatar_the_last_airbender_the_search/c001/part 2: https://www.mangaeden.com/en-manga/avatar-the-last-airbender---the-search/2/1/part 3: i had to watch on youtube, someone took pics of the comic XD u can just google for it Thanks man. Thoughts in spoilers + Show Spoiler + OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG that was so awesome. So sad I didn't know about it before. Are the others as good as this? The entire arc was just incredible. Everything I thought was going to happen didn't, though I did guess the Ikem thing. I'm curious about Azula though, and what happened there. I feel like she went to look for the Mother of Faces...but I'd like to know how that all ends. Is that out anywhere yet?
The next book sadly isnt coming out for a while
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On November 09 2013 17:08 UniversalSnip wrote:Are the creators trolling us? Seriously, half the episodes this season are just... just terrible, and then the other half they pull stuff like this and you feel genuinely moved because the whole thing coheres so brilliantly. + Show Spoiler +That last line where Tenzin is freaking out over the fate of his little girl and korra looks on helplessly... my god.
there were two studios working on this season. And the last few episodes were made by the second studio and you can see the huge difference it has made.
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hmm they just reuse old fanfavorites to cover up that the rest is quite bad... meh.
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watching episode 10 S2
OMG+ Show Spoiler +FUK YEA ITS IROH AGAIN. I did a literal fist pump. FUK YEA my favourite character who lays down wisdom and parables. Too bad the original Iroh voice Mako died  Iroh's voice is different. Sup Wong Shi Tong. You are still a dick. Blaming your cute foxes for your lack of knowledge on how radios work. T_T Professor Zhi is skeleton. Siding with Unalaq now Wong Shit Tong? Definitely still a dick
Honestly using the 2nd studio this 1/2 of the season is soooo much better than the 1st 1/2. Past 4 episodes make up for everything. The art and story are so much better. Everything is more coherant and better.
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On November 09 2013 18:41 MattBarry wrote: I find it strange that there are so many hints towards Unalak being more grey than evil. So many spirits siding with him when what he's doing appears so obviously evil to humans, I really want to know why I wouldn't view it that way. Human emotions are so overpowering that they can make the spirits change, against their will, without even intending it. Unalak has studied the spirits so much/powers given by Spirit McEvil he is probably able to rile them easily and in some way exert his will over them.
On November 09 2013 19:46 Skilledblob wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2013 17:08 UniversalSnip wrote:Are the creators trolling us? Seriously, half the episodes this season are just... just terrible, and then the other half they pull stuff like this and you feel genuinely moved because the whole thing coheres so brilliantly. + Show Spoiler +That last line where Tenzin is freaking out over the fate of his little girl and korra looks on helplessly... my god. there were two studios working on this season. And the last few episodes were made by the second studio and you can see the huge difference it has made. iirc, the studios are just animation studios and have 0 to do with writing.
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When you think about it. Doesn't Vaartu just want humanity destroyed? Wouldn't the spirits that don't like humans side with him anyway.
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On November 10 2013 01:30 Numy wrote: When you think about it. Doesn't Vaartu just want humanity destroyed? Wouldn't the spirits that don't like humans side with him anyway. Humans weren't able to enter the spirit world unless they meditate well enough, prior to the spirit portal being opened. People that were able to enter have been benevolent or at least neutral, so the spirits don't really care, I think.
Until now the spirit world has been an unsinkable ship.
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Wow I think there butchering this season hard... Half the plot is driven by Korra's tantrum powered fuck ups, it's full of clichés and now they are starting ruin things that were awesome in the first show. I mean they didn't fuck up the Iroh part but it just doesn't make sense or add anything to this season imo. The spirit world used to be all mysterious and weird and now they turned into a fucking tea party.... I'm also not yet sure if I like the way they portrayed the owl librarian... I guess what I liked about the spirits in the original series is that they were so strange and other worldly and in this show they are portrayed too human...
Also vatu is probably the lamest villain since sheablo.
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On November 10 2013 04:00 B.I.G. wrote: Wow I think there butchering this season hard... Half the plot is driven by Korra's tantrum powered fuck ups, it's full of clichés and now they are starting ruin things that were awesome in the first show. I mean they didn't fuck up the Iroh part but it just doesn't make sense or add anything to this season imo. The spirit world used to be all mysterious and weird and now they turned into a fucking tea party.... I'm also not yet sure if I like the way they portrayed the owl librarian... I guess what I liked about the spirits in the original series is that they were so strange and other worldly and in this show they are portrayed too human...
Also vatu is probably the lamest villain since sheablo. This is the biggest problem I've had with this season. I liked the spirit world being mysterious, the less we knew about it, the better. It made the handful of times we did see it all the better.
But I don't really think I can bring myself to say anything bad about this last episode. It was too good.
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On November 09 2013 19:26 Shock710 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2013 19:18 Foblos wrote:On November 09 2013 16:39 Shock710 wrote:On November 09 2013 16:33 Foblos wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Whooooo Iroh! Hopefully we get to find out what happened to Zuko's mom soon.I thought this was a completely kick ass episode. I thought it was super metaphorical/indicative the entire episode, with there being 2 paths inside that croc thing (Jinora = light/peace Korra = confusion/doubt), the young Korra (confusion/doubt) and Old Korra (much more in line with Ra'ava) and the fact that the Avatar can control the spirit world as Ra'ava does and also have a (implied) huge impact on the real world. People are complaining about not letting Jinora die and I'm going to address this more fully in the next spoiler block below, but I see this as a major developmental point for Korra. I think the Korra before meeting Wan/Ra'ava who was an abrasive headstrong tomboy would have probably let her die to "do the Avatar duty", but post-Wan Korra is moving back into the spirit of the Avatar (notice how even kid Korra wasn't abrasive and headstrong like she was in S1E1, but more meek and teachable?)
On November 09 2013 14:42 Kinie wrote:So is there a link for the preview of next week's episode or no? Didn't get a chance to watch it live but saw it online through other means, which didn't have the preview. And I'll put the rest of my thoughts in spoiler text: + Show Spoiler + Though knowing her, after tying up the Varrik issues she'll be headstrong, say she has to do it alone and we'll see her fail/losing in the fight (probably cause Vaatu + Unalaq will tag team her) then have the rest of the Team show up in a Big Damn Heroes moment and, best case scenario, is we get a good 10-15 minutes of action for the season finale.
+ Show Spoiler + I've been saying this for a little while, but I think that the Wan 2-parter was a major character development for Korra. There are interviews with the show runners who have openly acknowledged that Korra is abrasive, and intentionally so, and that they have intentions of changing that. It seems to me like gradually the Avatar drifted away from from Wan/Ra'ava's purposes until it got to the point that the greatest Avatar we had ever seen (Aang) turned out to be a complete failure of a parent and someone that history looks back on with mixed feelings. Then we get Korra who is just a complete failure character wise and can't do anything but screw up. Her personality gets temporarily wiped by the weird dark spirit and then she sees (I assume) the entire life of Wan including the parts we didn't see (if not what we saw was still enough) before being rebooted and remembering her life and inheriting that memory. The next few episodes showed a much kinder, gentler, more humble Korra that saw others as worth learning from instead of stepping stones to mastering what it means to be the Avatar.
All this to say, no, I don't think she'll be headstrong, but I think in the end the entire group is going to be engaged in strategic "war efforts" where their skills are best applied, but as a team. I do think it is feasible that Korra will be the only one to fight Va'tu though, simply because I don't think she will do the logical thing (sprint to the nearest portal and close it) but will rather let the Harmonic Convergence play out and have a Ra'ava/Avatar fight with Va'tu.)
The zuko mum's storyline has been "finished" (basically finished in the comics they released) i doubt they'll animated anything to do with zuko mum's story development. edit: can i add links? im not sure...but here they are part 1: http://www.mangahere.com/manga/avatar_the_last_airbender_the_search/c001/part 2: https://www.mangaeden.com/en-manga/avatar-the-last-airbender---the-search/2/1/part 3: i had to watch on youtube, someone took pics of the comic XD u can just google for it Thanks man. Thoughts in spoilers + Show Spoiler + OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG that was so awesome. So sad I didn't know about it before. Are the others as good as this? The entire arc was just incredible. Everything I thought was going to happen didn't, though I did guess the Ikem thing. I'm curious about Azula though, and what happened there. I feel like she went to look for the Mother of Faces...but I'd like to know how that all ends. Is that out anywhere yet?
The next book sadly isnt coming out for a while 
The Rift is coming out in March 2014, I believe. It's supposed to be about a festival for Avatar Yangchen, and Gene Yang said it's centered around Toph (yesss)
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On November 10 2013 13:27 ]343[ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2013 19:26 Shock710 wrote:On November 09 2013 19:18 Foblos wrote:On November 09 2013 16:39 Shock710 wrote:On November 09 2013 16:33 Foblos wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Whooooo Iroh! Hopefully we get to find out what happened to Zuko's mom soon.I thought this was a completely kick ass episode. I thought it was super metaphorical/indicative the entire episode, with there being 2 paths inside that croc thing (Jinora = light/peace Korra = confusion/doubt), the young Korra (confusion/doubt) and Old Korra (much more in line with Ra'ava) and the fact that the Avatar can control the spirit world as Ra'ava does and also have a (implied) huge impact on the real world. People are complaining about not letting Jinora die and I'm going to address this more fully in the next spoiler block below, but I see this as a major developmental point for Korra. I think the Korra before meeting Wan/Ra'ava who was an abrasive headstrong tomboy would have probably let her die to "do the Avatar duty", but post-Wan Korra is moving back into the spirit of the Avatar (notice how even kid Korra wasn't abrasive and headstrong like she was in S1E1, but more meek and teachable?)
On November 09 2013 14:42 Kinie wrote:So is there a link for the preview of next week's episode or no? Didn't get a chance to watch it live but saw it online through other means, which didn't have the preview. And I'll put the rest of my thoughts in spoiler text: + Show Spoiler + Though knowing her, after tying up the Varrik issues she'll be headstrong, say she has to do it alone and we'll see her fail/losing in the fight (probably cause Vaatu + Unalaq will tag team her) then have the rest of the Team show up in a Big Damn Heroes moment and, best case scenario, is we get a good 10-15 minutes of action for the season finale.
+ Show Spoiler + I've been saying this for a little while, but I think that the Wan 2-parter was a major character development for Korra. There are interviews with the show runners who have openly acknowledged that Korra is abrasive, and intentionally so, and that they have intentions of changing that. It seems to me like gradually the Avatar drifted away from from Wan/Ra'ava's purposes until it got to the point that the greatest Avatar we had ever seen (Aang) turned out to be a complete failure of a parent and someone that history looks back on with mixed feelings. Then we get Korra who is just a complete failure character wise and can't do anything but screw up. Her personality gets temporarily wiped by the weird dark spirit and then she sees (I assume) the entire life of Wan including the parts we didn't see (if not what we saw was still enough) before being rebooted and remembering her life and inheriting that memory. The next few episodes showed a much kinder, gentler, more humble Korra that saw others as worth learning from instead of stepping stones to mastering what it means to be the Avatar.
All this to say, no, I don't think she'll be headstrong, but I think in the end the entire group is going to be engaged in strategic "war efforts" where their skills are best applied, but as a team. I do think it is feasible that Korra will be the only one to fight Va'tu though, simply because I don't think she will do the logical thing (sprint to the nearest portal and close it) but will rather let the Harmonic Convergence play out and have a Ra'ava/Avatar fight with Va'tu.)
The zuko mum's storyline has been "finished" (basically finished in the comics they released) i doubt they'll animated anything to do with zuko mum's story development. edit: can i add links? im not sure...but here they are part 1: http://www.mangahere.com/manga/avatar_the_last_airbender_the_search/c001/part 2: https://www.mangaeden.com/en-manga/avatar-the-last-airbender---the-search/2/1/part 3: i had to watch on youtube, someone took pics of the comic XD u can just google for it Thanks man. Thoughts in spoilers + Show Spoiler + OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG that was so awesome. So sad I didn't know about it before. Are the others as good as this? The entire arc was just incredible. Everything I thought was going to happen didn't, though I did guess the Ikem thing. I'm curious about Azula though, and what happened there. I feel like she went to look for the Mother of Faces...but I'd like to know how that all ends. Is that out anywhere yet?
The next book sadly isnt coming out for a while  The Rift is coming out in March 2014, I believe. It's supposed to be about a festival for Avatar Yangchen, and Gene Yang said it's centered around Toph (yesss)
Holy Fuck yes Plz. Toph and Iroh were my favourite characters from A:TLA. Ive been fiending more info on her ever since S1 showed how badass metalbending became with Lin Bei Fong.
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I still don't understand why the hell Korra had to close the first portal. I mean, as long as the second one remained closed, Vaatu wouldn't be able to escape, right? She had basically won already. All she had to do was sit tight and wait for Harmonic Convergence to pass...
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On November 10 2013 16:39 Deckard.666 wrote: I still don't understand why the hell Korra had to close the first portal. I mean, as long as the second one remained closed, Vaatu wouldn't be able to escape, right? She had basically won already. All she had to do was sit tight and wait for Harmonic Convergence to pass... O_O er...lol i think ur right XD
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On November 10 2013 16:39 Deckard.666 wrote: I still don't understand why the hell Korra had to close the first portal. I mean, as long as the second one remained closed, Vaatu wouldn't be able to escape, right? She had basically won already. All she had to do was sit tight and wait for Harmonic Convergence to pass...
I think everyone is under the impression that anyone human/bender can open it. Unalak seems to have been the only person to know that Korra was necessary, and he still tried to open it with bending. Everyone else seems to think that it doesn't matter.
My own thoughts: Perhaps they all think that if the harmonic convergence starts on one side, the second will open, or more likely the second side doesn't need to open because Va'tu is already there.
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On November 10 2013 17:32 Foblos wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2013 16:39 Deckard.666 wrote: I still don't understand why the hell Korra had to close the first portal. I mean, as long as the second one remained closed, Vaatu wouldn't be able to escape, right? She had basically won already. All she had to do was sit tight and wait for Harmonic Convergence to pass... I think everyone is under the impression that anyone human/bender can open it. Unalak seems to have been the only person to know that Korra was necessary, and he still tried to open it with bending. Everyone else seems to think that it doesn't matter. My own thoughts: Perhaps they all think that if the harmonic convergence starts on one side, the second will open, or more likely the second side doesn't need to open because Va'tu is already there. hmm now that you mention it, unalak did lie when he said he didnt need korra anymore, and korra believed him. (but i think wans story says as long as they both remain closed it would be okay, im not 100% sure dont quote me on this )
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On November 10 2013 16:39 Deckard.666 wrote: I still don't understand why the hell Korra had to close the first portal. I mean, as long as the second one remained closed, Vaatu wouldn't be able to escape, right? She had basically won already. All she had to do was sit tight and wait for Harmonic Convergence to pass...
looool hmm, the first time I heard that was when Jinora was reading that book in the library? So I don't know if Korra actually knew that?
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