[TV] The Legend of Korra - Page 177
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MountainDewJunkie
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On November 03 2013 11:45 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Fridge logic: Vaatu was the spirit that originally created that portal. Therefore, he could have conceivable become powerful enough to simply reopen it. Maybe? D: I thought the portals were natural. | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On November 03 2013 06:10 erkicman wrote: I'm here wondering why Unalak wanted to occupy the Southern Water tribe in the first place. If he didn't move his troops in and just took Korra to the north to open the second spirit portal, Vaatu would've "won" by now. Yeah I was thinking about that too actually. He said "you have only until tonight to open the southern spirit portal" because of the whole festival thing was celebrated on a specific day. Yet then he was going to have her open the northern portal too apparently. Which would mean for some reason the northern portal opens up on a different day, logically speaking, but then if that's the case why didn't he just visit sooner, train her up north and open the northern portal, and then go south during the festival as a "homecoming" type of deal and then open the southern portal? =/ | ||
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UniversalSnip
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B.I.G.
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
IROHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ^ only important thing, obviously but more seriously... + Show Spoiler + poor jinora not sure about Korra's decision to open the portal, but I guess she didn't want jinora dead | ||
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Valiver
Caldeum1977 Posts
On November 09 2013 13:21 ]343[ wrote: + Show Spoiler + IROHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ^ only important thing, obviously but more seriously... + Show Spoiler + poor jinora not sure about Korra's decision to open the portal, but I guess she didn't want jinora dead+ Show Spoiler + I started going crazy when I saw Iroh, not quite foaming at the mouth shrieking and passing out, but super stoked. Also in the library I'm a little surprised they had that professor's skeleton there. Kid's show indeed. | ||
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
Korra opened the second portal letting Jinora die. Seriously letting Jinora die to close the second portal would solve ALL the problems. Unalak and his children would be trapped in the spirit world and thus would die. Korra would have saved the world from Vattu. If we want to really theory craft: Jinora wouldn't die if Korra would have tried to close the portal. Unalak would have to stop killing Jinora to attempt to stop Korra from closing the portal. In that time Jinora could come back to the real world and even if Korra failed to close the spirit portal she could also easily escape, becuase she did. | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
im like 7 minutes in WHAAAAAAAT | ||
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
On November 09 2013 13:35 Valiver wrote: + Show Spoiler + I started going crazy when I saw Iroh, not quite foaming at the mouth shrieking and passing out, but super stoked. Also in the library I'm a little surprised they had that professor's skeleton there. Kid's show indeed. + Show Spoiler + don't worry I started screaming and tackling the guy next to me and yeah wow prof. zei @_@ | ||
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
And I'll put the rest of my thoughts in spoiler text: + Show Spoiler + Yay Iroh! Also interesting that he kinda spoiled a way for someone to become "immortal" too (he said he let his body die and had his spirit drift into the spirit world as he's always had a connection/fascination with it). Also the amount of spirit bending being done is total bullshit, like even if they entered through the "normal" way (ie., meditation) how come Korra's spirit bending - or Raava for fucks sake - can't do spirit bending while Unalaq can spirit bend thru his water bending? That's pretty bullshitty. As for the whole Jenoira issue, if we approach this logically then yes, the "needs of the many outweigh needs of the few" argument is right and Korra should have let Jenoira get converted to evil (which is what it looks like Unalaq is doing, bending energy to convert it to Vaatu's chaotic wavelength). But because Korra's the hero she has to do the "right" thing and unlock the portal, with the expectation of trying to save Jenoira afterwards. But now that Vattu being freed is only a matter of time, Korra's best chance of "gearing up" for the fight is to go to Republic City, grab her allies (and probably tie up/brute force the Varrik issue quickly) and enter through the North Pole portal and tear Vaatu a new one. Though knowing her, after tying up the Varrik issues she'll be headstrong, say she has to do it alone and we'll see her fail/losing in the fight (probably cause Vaatu + Unalaq will tag team her) then have the rest of the Team show up in a Big Damn Heroes moment and, best case scenario, is we get a good 10-15 minutes of action for the season finale. | ||
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Valiver
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On November 09 2013 14:42 Kinie wrote: So is there a link for the preview of next week's episode or no? Didn't get a chance to watch it live but saw it online through other means, which didn't have the preview. And I'll put the rest of my thoughts in spoiler text: + Show Spoiler + Yay Iroh! Also interesting that he kinda spoiled a way for someone to become "immortal" too (he said he let his body die and had his spirit drift into the spirit world as he's always had a connection/fascination with it). Also the amount of spirit bending being done is total bullshit, like even if they entered through the "normal" way (ie., meditation) how come Korra's spirit bending - or Raava for fucks sake - can't do spirit bending while Unalaq can spirit bend thru his water bending? That's pretty bullshitty. As for the whole Jenoira issue, if we approach this logically then yes, the "needs of the many outweigh needs of the few" argument is right and Korra should have let Jenoira get converted to evil (which is what it looks like Unalaq is doing, bending energy to convert it to Vaatu's chaotic wavelength). But because Korra's the hero she has to do the "right" thing and unlock the portal, with the expectation of trying to save Jenoira afterwards. But now that Vattu being freed is only a matter of time, Korra's best chance of "gearing up" for the fight is to go to Republic City, grab her allies (and probably tie up/brute force the Varrik issue quickly) and enter through the North Pole portal and tear Vaatu a new one. Though knowing her, after tying up the Varrik issues she'll be headstrong, say she has to do it alone and we'll see her fail/losing in the fight (probably cause Vaatu + Unalaq will tag team her) then have the rest of the Team show up in a Big Damn Heroes moment and, best case scenario, is we get a good 10-15 minutes of action for the season finale. + Show Spoiler + The reason Unalaq could bend was because he physically entered through a portal, while Korra did it through meditation. I'm not sure they ever mentioned before now that you could bend in there by entering physically, but I guess that option of entering never came up before anyway, so it was probably added for plot enhancement to make that last scene a lot more intense. I know at any rate that during that scene Unalaq said to Korra that it was too bad she didn't enter the same way he did or she could have her bending as well. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
I like the allusions to Alice in Wonderland. Iroh's return is another fanservice. Maybe it's not easy to leave the Spirit world. Otherwise there are plot holes. Kidnapping is a cliche. Done way too often in movies. Next she'll be evil and under Unalaq's control and Korra will have to convince her to listen to the power of friendship. | ||
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
On November 09 2013 16:06 obesechicken13 wrote: + Show Spoiler + I like the allusions to Alice in Wonderland. Iroh's return is another fanservice. Maybe it's not easy to leave the Spirit world. Otherwise there are plot holes. Kidnapping is a cliche. Done way too often in movies. Next she'll be evil and under Unalaq's control and Korra will have to convince her to listen to the power of friendship. hmm speaking of fan service have we had a "MY CABBAGES!!" this season? oh wait we did right, the wan storyline | ||
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Foblos
United States426 Posts
Whooooo Iroh! Hopefully we get to find out what happened to Zuko's mom soon.I thought this was a completely kick ass episode. I thought it was super metaphorical/indicative the entire episode, with there being 2 paths inside that croc thing (Jinora = light/peace Korra = confusion/doubt), the young Korra (confusion/doubt) and Old Korra (much more in line with Ra'ava) and the fact that the Avatar can control the spirit world as Ra'ava does and also have a (implied) huge impact on the real world. People are complaining about not letting Jinora die and I'm going to address this more fully in the next spoiler block below, but I see this as a major developmental point for Korra. I think the Korra before meeting Wan/Ra'ava who was an abrasive headstrong tomboy would have probably let her die to "do the Avatar duty", but post-Wan Korra is moving back into the spirit of the Avatar (notice how even kid Korra wasn't abrasive and headstrong like she was in S1E1, but more meek and teachable?) On November 09 2013 14:42 Kinie wrote: So is there a link for the preview of next week's episode or no? Didn't get a chance to watch it live but saw it online through other means, which didn't have the preview. And I'll put the rest of my thoughts in spoiler text: + Show Spoiler + Though knowing her, after tying up the Varrik issues she'll be headstrong, say she has to do it alone and we'll see her fail/losing in the fight (probably cause Vaatu + Unalaq will tag team her) then have the rest of the Team show up in a Big Damn Heroes moment and, best case scenario, is we get a good 10-15 minutes of action for the season finale. + Show Spoiler + I've been saying this for a little while, but I think that the Wan 2-parter was a major character development for Korra. There are interviews with the show runners who have openly acknowledged that Korra is abrasive, and intentionally so, and that they have intentions of changing that. It seems to me like gradually the Avatar drifted away from from Wan/Ra'ava's purposes until it got to the point that the greatest Avatar we had ever seen (Aang) turned out to be a complete failure of a parent and someone that history looks back on with mixed feelings. Then we get Korra who is just a complete failure character wise and can't do anything but screw up. Her personality gets temporarily wiped by the weird dark spirit and then she sees (I assume) the entire life of Wan including the parts we didn't see (if not what we saw was still enough) before being rebooted and remembering her life and inheriting that memory. The next few episodes showed a much kinder, gentler, more humble Korra that saw others as worth learning from instead of stepping stones to mastering what it means to be the Avatar. All this to say, no, I don't think she'll be headstrong, but I think in the end the entire group is going to be engaged in strategic "war efforts" where their skills are best applied, but as a team. I do think it is feasible that Korra will be the only one to fight Va'tu though, simply because I don't think she will do the logical thing (sprint to the nearest portal and close it) but will rather let the Harmonic Convergence play out and have a Ra'ava/Avatar fight with Va'tu.) | ||
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
On November 09 2013 16:33 Foblos wrote: + Show Spoiler + Whooooo Iroh! Hopefully we get to find out what happened to Zuko's mom soon.I thought this was a completely kick ass episode. I thought it was super metaphorical/indicative the entire episode, with there being 2 paths inside that croc thing (Jinora = light/peace Korra = confusion/doubt), the young Korra (confusion/doubt) and Old Korra (much more in line with Ra'ava) and the fact that the Avatar can control the spirit world as Ra'ava does and also have a (implied) huge impact on the real world. People are complaining about not letting Jinora die and I'm going to address this more fully in the next spoiler block below, but I see this as a major developmental point for Korra. I think the Korra before meeting Wan/Ra'ava who was an abrasive headstrong tomboy would have probably let her die to "do the Avatar duty", but post-Wan Korra is moving back into the spirit of the Avatar (notice how even kid Korra wasn't abrasive and headstrong like she was in S1E1, but more meek and teachable?) + Show Spoiler + I've been saying this for a little while, but I think that the Wan 2-parter was a major character development for Korra. There are interviews with the show runners who have openly acknowledged that Korra is abrasive, and intentionally so, and that they have intentions of changing that. It seems to me like gradually the Avatar drifted away from from Wan/Ra'ava's purposes until it got to the point that the greatest Avatar we had ever seen (Aang) turned out to be a complete failure of a parent and someone that history looks back on with mixed feelings. Then we get Korra who is just a complete failure character wise and can't do anything but screw up. Her personality gets temporarily wiped by the weird dark spirit and then she sees (I assume) the entire life of Wan including the parts we didn't see (if not what we saw was still enough) before being rebooted and remembering her life and inheriting that memory. The next few episodes showed a much kinder, gentler, more humble Korra that saw others as worth learning from instead of stepping stones to mastering what it means to be the Avatar. All this to say, no, I don't think she'll be headstrong, but I think in the end the entire group is going to be engaged in strategic "war efforts" where their skills are best applied, but as a team. I do think it is feasible that Korra will be the only one to fight Va'tu though, simply because I don't think she will do the logical thing (sprint to the nearest portal and close it) but will rather let the Harmonic Convergence play out and have a Ra'ava/Avatar fight with Va'tu.) The zuko mum's storyline has been "finished" (basically finished in the comics they released) i doubt they'll animated anything to do with zuko mum's story development. edit: can i add links? im not sure...but here they are part 1: http://www.mangahere.com/manga/avatar_the_last_airbender_the_search/c001/ part 2: https://www.mangaeden.com/en-manga/avatar-the-last-airbender---the-search/2/1/ part 3: i had to watch on youtube, someone took pics of the comic XD u can just google for it | ||
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UniversalSnip
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That last line where Tenzin is freaking out over the fate of his little girl and korra looks on helplessly... my god. | ||
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Uridium
United States86 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On November 09 2013 17:08 UniversalSnip wrote: Are the creators trolling us? Seriously, half the episodes this season are just... just terrible, and then the other half they pull stuff like this and you feel genuinely moved because the whole thing coheres so brilliantly. + Show Spoiler + That last line where Tenzin is freaking out over the fate of his little girl and korra looks on helplessly... my god. No, people have just lost the ability to let things play out. They want to know everything now. | ||
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MattBarry
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not sure about Korra's decision to open the portal, but I guess she didn't want jinora dead