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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-12 05:57:01
October 12 2013 05:54 GMT
#3381
I don't see why everyone thinks the amnesia plot device is so bad. They did introduce a decent explanation for the amnesia with Korra almost being killed by the dark spirit, she obviously was going to survive, but it had consequences. This whole season Korra has just continued to be brash and impatient which was never solved in season 1, Korra simply was able to wait a few days for reinforcements. Korra's low points of season 1, being trapped in a box and Amon escaping/Katara not being able to restore her bending allowed her to connect to past Avatars, but it is not something she can repeat. The first instance required her to be trapped and the second she unconsciously called Aang.

The amnesia combined with Korra being away from spirits/civil war allow Korra to start over and connect with her past lives and we know she will with the Wan double episode coming up. This time she Korra will actually have a mentor or mentors with the fire sages that will teach her about being the Avatar so she doesn't need to be at a low point to talk to her past lives.
RoyaleBrainSlug
Profile Joined December 2010
United States295 Posts
October 12 2013 05:58 GMT
#3382
This my friends is how you completely mishandle a plot line and characters, honestly I wish they took a pass or 2 over this script again to iron everything out or just completely started over. I don't think I can suspend enough disbelief that this is how people react to each other.
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Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
October 12 2013 06:02 GMT
#3383
i just thought of something remember when mako was going to bargian with the triple threats and giving that guy his bending back through korra, i assumed that between book1 and 2 that korra would have travelled back to republic city to give the cops, and the other people who lost their bending right? Its not like they could have checked who you were there would have been so many people why didnt that one guy not get his bending back.
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
October 12 2013 06:20 GMT
#3384
Well they have pictures of known criminals as shown when Mako was able to identify the bomber. The police could have screened criminals so Korra does not restore their bending. Anyways it has been confirmed in an interview that Korra held back giving bending to certain people.
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Has Korra restored bending to all of those who have lost it? What other aftermath did Amon and the Equalists leave behind that Korra and Team Avatar had or still have to set right?

Michael Dante DiMartino: The biggest change as a result of the Equalist movement was the election of the United Republic’s first President. President Raiko becomes a significant presence in Book 2, as well as a new authority figure with whom Korra butts heads. Because this is a new adventure focused on the spirits and the spirit world, there wasn’t time to detail out all the fallout from Amon. But we wanted to show that Republic City had changed, thus the new President, who is a non-bender.

Konietzko: We don’t dwell on the business of Korra restoring everyone’s bending in Book 2, but we figured she got around to helping the innocent people who lost it in the months between the seasons. She is undoubtedly holding out on some sordid characters amongst the Triads, I’d say! It is a nice thing to hold over their heads in order to get them to behave better

http://family-room.ew.com/2013/09/13/legend-of-korra-season-2-burning-questions/
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
October 12 2013 06:43 GMT
#3385
On October 12 2013 14:54 BlackMagister wrote:
I don't see why everyone thinks the amnesia plot device is so bad. They did introduce a decent explanation for the amnesia with Korra almost being killed by the dark spirit, she obviously was going to survive, but it had consequences. This whole season Korra has just continued to be brash and impatient which was never solved in season 1, Korra simply was able to wait a few days for reinforcements. Korra's low points of season 1, being trapped in a box and Amon escaping/Katara not being able to restore her bending allowed her to connect to past Avatars, but it is not something she can repeat. The first instance required her to be trapped and the second she unconsciously called Aang.

The amnesia combined with Korra being away from spirits/civil war allow Korra to start over and connect with her past lives and we know she will with the Wan double episode coming up. This time she Korra will actually have a mentor or mentors with the fire sages that will teach her about being the Avatar so she doesn't need to be at a low point to talk to her past lives.

Because amnesia has been done to death. It seems like every show, at some point in its airing, has an amnesia episode.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
October 12 2013 06:48 GMT
#3386
On October 12 2013 15:20 BlackMagister wrote:
Well they have pictures of known criminals as shown when Mako was able to identify the bomber. The police could have screened criminals so Korra does not restore their bending. Anyways it has been confirmed in an interview that Korra held back giving bending to certain people.
+ Show Spoiler +
Has Korra restored bending to all of those who have lost it? What other aftermath did Amon and the Equalists leave behind that Korra and Team Avatar had or still have to set right?

Michael Dante DiMartino: The biggest change as a result of the Equalist movement was the election of the United Republic’s first President. President Raiko becomes a significant presence in Book 2, as well as a new authority figure with whom Korra butts heads. Because this is a new adventure focused on the spirits and the spirit world, there wasn’t time to detail out all the fallout from Amon. But we wanted to show that Republic City had changed, thus the new President, who is a non-bender.

Konietzko: We don’t dwell on the business of Korra restoring everyone’s bending in Book 2, but we figured she got around to helping the innocent people who lost it in the months between the seasons. She is undoubtedly holding out on some sordid characters amongst the Triads, I’d say! It is a nice thing to hold over their heads in order to get them to behave better

http://family-room.ew.com/2013/09/13/legend-of-korra-season-2-burning-questions/

ah cool thank you
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-12 07:29:32
October 12 2013 07:29 GMT
#3387
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Really enjoyed this episode. I did not see the Varric twist coming. Also have nothing against the amnesia ending, though it'll depend on how they play it out.
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Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
October 12 2013 07:43 GMT
#3388
On October 12 2013 16:29 Firebolt145 wrote:
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Really enjoyed this episode. I did not see the Varric twist coming. Also have nothing against the amnesia ending, though it'll depend on how they play it out.

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i really thought she had ended up on the lionturtle XD and the ep cliffhanger would her being confused about no bending, but now she seems to be with the fire priests it is an island but i some how feel a meeting with the firelord or zuko is due
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Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-12 07:54:20
October 12 2013 07:53 GMT
#3389
On October 12 2013 15:43 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 14:54 BlackMagister wrote:
I don't see why everyone thinks the amnesia plot device is so bad. They did introduce a decent explanation for the amnesia with Korra almost being killed by the dark spirit, she obviously was going to survive, but it had consequences. This whole season Korra has just continued to be brash and impatient which was never solved in season 1, Korra simply was able to wait a few days for reinforcements. Korra's low points of season 1, being trapped in a box and Amon escaping/Katara not being able to restore her bending allowed her to connect to past Avatars, but it is not something she can repeat. The first instance required her to be trapped and the second she unconsciously called Aang.

The amnesia combined with Korra being away from spirits/civil war allow Korra to start over and connect with her past lives and we know she will with the Wan double episode coming up. This time she Korra will actually have a mentor or mentors with the fire sages that will teach her about being the Avatar so she doesn't need to be at a low point to talk to her past lives.

Because amnesia has been done to death. It seems like every show, at some point in its airing, has an amnesia episode.


Yes, and every show has had a betrayal, and every show has had a family kidnapping, and every show has had a love interest. It's not the plot device - there are only so many you can go through - it's what you do with it. I'm exaggerating, but you should get the picture.
+ Show Spoiler +

While I agree they probably could have done something else, I enjoyed the episode and I think it's a good way for it to go for now, assuming they do it right. What did we want to happen from a giant spirit swamping her? Was she just supposed to get up and head off to the fire nation (or wherever she was going) completely unharmed? She obviously can't die, and having "wild/untameable" spirits capture her would make no sense. So amnesia is decent here.

Also, I actually didn't see Varric thing incoming until this episode (before the reveal that is)
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KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-12 08:23:39
October 12 2013 08:23 GMT
#3390
On October 12 2013 15:43 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 14:54 BlackMagister wrote:
I don't see why everyone thinks the amnesia plot device is so bad. They did introduce a decent explanation for the amnesia with Korra almost being killed by the dark spirit, she obviously was going to survive, but it had consequences. This whole season Korra has just continued to be brash and impatient which was never solved in season 1, Korra simply was able to wait a few days for reinforcements. Korra's low points of season 1, being trapped in a box and Amon escaping/Katara not being able to restore her bending allowed her to connect to past Avatars, but it is not something she can repeat. The first instance required her to be trapped and the second she unconsciously called Aang.

The amnesia combined with Korra being away from spirits/civil war allow Korra to start over and connect with her past lives and we know she will with the Wan double episode coming up. This time she Korra will actually have a mentor or mentors with the fire sages that will teach her about being the Avatar so she doesn't need to be at a low point to talk to her past lives.

Because amnesia has been done to death. It seems like every show, at some point in its airing, has an amnesia episode.

It's 2013. Many plot elements have been "done to death" but really, who cares as long as it's done well? Same thing with games, why does it have to be innovative or ground breaking to be good? Why can't people just enjoy a well made game/story?
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-12 09:25:15
October 12 2013 09:20 GMT
#3391
This episode was a lot better than the last which was considerably better than all the previous ones this book put together. I actually feel like the show is on a roll again instead of being on the edge of narrative failure.

I don't think beifong came off badly here at all. Mako has enough evidence to make him suspicious but not enough that he could possibly convince her, so it's a reasonable scene.

I'm so pleased mako is a real character now. This is probably how they envisioned him when the show first started. Can you imagine how good book one would've been if they'd had time to flesh him out like this? Almost every complaint I've seen about book one is basically about how Korra romances a blank slate, a couple episodes like this and that'd be gone.

Bolin's dialogue continues to be very funny, but it's a real downer to see the most likable character of book 1 turned into a comic idiot. He's supposed to be goofy and not terribly bright but this is just ridiculous.

Korra is finally going to stop being such a human volcano after this I bet. I don't watch a lot of TV so I don't have a gag reaction to the word amnesia, this development is completely fine with me.

I really, really do hope they bust out Koh. He's so entertaining and another intimidating villain like amon would do a world of good at this point. It makes so much sense, too, with the twins and korra's main character challenge at this point being overcoming her anger.
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17734 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-12 09:31:54
October 12 2013 09:28 GMT
#3392
Also got to add in the fact that he just barged into the middle of an investigation so not surprising how Beifong acted to him especially when he's supposed to be a rookie.

Varrick is a character I can't really place. Like up to now he was a complete joke of a character that you didn't take serious so it definitely felt weird having him as a possible villain.

Last point, I'm not sure what to make of Asami's kiss. Are Mako and Asami gonna go back together or is Korra and Mako gonna make up.
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Deonto
Profile Joined May 2010
United States24 Posts
October 12 2013 10:41 GMT
#3393
Probably the best episode so far. Well, they finally do one that doesn't feel rushed(like 90% of the episodes have some aspect of them that are...not played out).
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-12 11:02:05
October 12 2013 10:54 GMT
#3394
On October 12 2013 18:20 UniversalSnip wrote:
This episode was a lot better than the last which was considerably better than all the previous ones this book put together. I actually feel like the show is on a roll again instead of being on the edge of narrative failure.

I don't think beifong came off badly here at all. Mako has enough evidence to make him suspicious but not enough that he could possibly convince her, so it's a reasonable scene.

I'm so pleased mako is a real character now. This is probably how they envisioned him when the show first started. Can you imagine how good book one would've been if they'd had time to flesh him out like this? Almost every complaint I've seen about book one is basically about how Korra romances a blank slate, a couple episodes like this and that'd be gone.

Bolin's dialogue continues to be very funny, but it's a real downer to see the most likable character of book 1 turned into a comic idiot. He's supposed to be goofy and not terribly bright but this is just ridiculous.

Korra is finally going to stop being such a human volcano after this I bet. I don't watch a lot of TV so I don't have a gag reaction to the word amnesia, this development is completely fine with me.

I really, really do hope they bust out Koh. He's so entertaining and another intimidating villain like amon would do a world of good at this point. It makes so much sense, too, with the twins and korra's main character challenge at this point being overcoming her anger.

Definitely agree that Mako has been handling this poorly and the reactions from people around him are justified. He should have taken his concerns to Beifong in privacy, not while she is in the middle of a meeting with the President, or in the middle of a questioning. Like, what the hell response did he expect? Makes you wonder if Korra's tendency to live in the moment had rubbed off on him a bit too much.

Personally, I think this is going to be a good thing for Bolin in the end. He'll end up coming out a better person after realizing how much he let fame get to his head.

I 100% agree with you about Korra. She has been the epitome of a loose cannon. Time to do some growing up!

Oh my, I would love for Koh to come back. He was absolutely FANTASTIC in the first series. He was more intimidating/scary in his few minutes on screen than Amon was for an entire Book. He could fit in very well with some character growth for Korra.

As for Varrick...I like it. It's pretty clear now that the eccentric rich guy shtick is just an act and he's secretly highly intelligent and *very* dangerous. Is he the real puppeteer behind everything? Is he working for/with Unolok? Or is he just taking advantage of an unstable situation so he can make some serious cash off of war profits?
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B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
October 12 2013 11:22 GMT
#3395
Next up: Mako gathers enough evidence and goes to confront Verrick. But wait! Verrick magically body swaps with Mako and locks him up in a cage, taking over his life. Nobody gets any closer to finding out the truth because Verrick in Mako's body is sabotaging all their efforts! How dastardly!

MEANWHILE in the air temple: Aang's family finds out the original avatar has somehow returned from the after life and turns out to be evil! He blows up the air temple and everything seems lost!

Later, still amnesiac Korra blankly looks up to the night sky and suddenly a cloud takes the shape of Aang's head and says: "Korra... remember.. who you are...." and proceeds to inform Korra about everything that is going on and how this is all the plot of some unknown secret nemesis of Aang.

Korra flies in to safe the day with ultra super extra avatar powers and all is well.

The end.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
October 12 2013 11:23 GMT
#3396
On October 12 2013 20:22 B.I.G. wrote:
Next up: Mako gathers enough evidence and goes to confront Verrick. But wait! Verrick magically body swaps with Mako and locks him up in a cage, taking over his life. Nobody gets any closer to finding out the truth because Verrick in Mako's body is sabotaging all their efforts! How dastardly!

MEANWHILE in the air temple: Aang's family finds out the original avatar has somehow returned from the after life and turns out to be evil! He blows up the air temple and everything seems lost!

Later, still amnesiac Korra blankly looks up to the night sky and suddenly a cloud takes the shape of Aang's head and says: "Korra... remember.. who you are...." and proceeds to inform Korra about everything that is going on and how this is all the plot of some unknown secret nemesis of Aang.

Korra flies in to safe the day with ultra super extra avatar powers and all is well.

The end.

The legend of Korra movie plot
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sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
October 12 2013 12:37 GMT
#3397
This episode felt like a giant waste of time. Wasn't this book supposed to be focused on the spirits? Can we get that going? After last episode's ending I though that we would finally get more into that story. And to top it off Korra has amnesia? Really? Amnesia? We'll see how that goes, but it's usually a lazy way of developing a character.
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
October 12 2013 14:01 GMT
#3398
On October 12 2013 21:37 sashkata wrote:
This episode felt like a giant waste of time. Wasn't this book supposed to be focused on the spirits? Can we get that going? After last episode's ending I though that we would finally get more into that story. And to top it off Korra has amnesia? Really? Amnesia? We'll see how that goes, but it's usually a lazy way of developing a character.


...something pretty major happened in the spirit world, obviously. I'm more interested now, actually.
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Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
October 12 2013 14:34 GMT
#3399
I don't get what Verrick is going for here... Shouldn't he be supporting the south by letting Asami's stuff get there, rather than sabotaging the whole plan? Not to say that I don't like his character though. He is rather unpredictable, which makes for a fun character to speculate about.

Also, so little water tribe action this episode. Kinda thinking that when they all go back to the south, it will be war-torn/conquered already by the north. Lot of stuff for everyone to do, so plenty of time for stuff to go down there.
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GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
October 12 2013 14:50 GMT
#3400
Best Episode Yet ^_^.
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