[Movie] Ender's Game - Page 9
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theincrediblemachine
Netherlands14 Posts
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DrLOAC
United States53 Posts
On March 23 2012 16:54 Scarecrow wrote: No, ad placement generally do have to be unobtrusive. The car someone's driving doesnt affect story, neither do phones, fashion, computers etc to any real degree. WoW instead of the giant's drink game would really mess with the plot and any thoughts of a sequel. Starcraft would also be completely foreign (too hard to understand/explain in a movie) to most viewers and also have nothing to do with the space fighter described in the book. My thought was since the Giants game was a essentially set in a fantasy world The Warcraft engine could work. As you may be aware the Warcraft Engine can essentially create fantasy worlds. I mean they did an entire episode of South Park using the engine. Blizzard could provide a skinned version of the game for the movie. As for Starcraft, you may remember that Peter used to make Ender play Buggers and Astronauts. When Ender gets to the battle school he plays an older kid 3 matches of a starship fighting game and wins the final 2 matches. Well what if they played a real time strategy game that actually has buggers and astronauts? When Ender asks to play the older kid could say, "Fine Launchy, you be the buggers.". This would tie the battle school back to to the abuse he suffered at Peter and foreshadow the abuse he'll recieved at the battle school. Then they can show him beating the older kid, showing off his strategic and tactical brilliance, which was the original point of the scene, with the added benefit that he does it using his understanding of his enemy, the older boy, by using enemy units which emphasizes his ability to understand the Formics. Plus it would be a shout-out to a certain group who may just be rabid fans of both properties. In addition if Zerg beats Terran in a major motion picture it may convince some folks at blizzard that Terran doesn't need to be nerfed in the next patch. :p | ||
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XDawn
Canada4040 Posts
On the other hand, I'm going to dig up my Ender books and re-read, which are all in bad condition - so I'll buy another set just to keep for another decade in case my current one gets obliterated :D | ||
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drshdwpuppet
United States332 Posts
hell, even my username comes from one of the books in the Bean series (Shadow Puppets), I am a hardcore fan and definitely will go see this ^^ | ||
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AimlessAmoeba
Canada704 Posts
I really, really hope they do the book justice with the movie. I know it's supposed to be like "teen literature" but I read it a few years ago (I'm 26 now) and I loved it. | ||
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Hertzy
Finland355 Posts
On March 23 2012 22:34 DrLOAC wrote: My thought was since the Giants game was a essentially set in a fantasy world The Warcraft engine could work. As you may be aware the Warcraft Engine can essentially create fantasy worlds. I mean they did an entire episode of South Park using the engine. Blizzard could provide a skinned version of the game for the movie. As for Starcraft, you may remember that Peter used to make Ender play Buggers and Astronauts. When Ender gets to the battle school he plays an older kid 3 matches of a starship fighting game and wins the final 2 matches. Well what if they played a real time strategy game that actually has buggers and astronauts? When Ender asks to play the older kid could say, "Fine Launchy, you be the buggers.". This would tie the battle school back to to the abuse he suffered at Peter and foreshadow the abuse he'll recieved at the battle school. Then they can show him beating the older kid, showing off his strategic and tactical brilliance, which was the original point of the scene, with the added benefit that he does it using his understanding of his enemy, the older boy, by using enemy units which emphasizes his ability to understand the Formics. Plus it would be a shout-out to a certain group who may just be rabid fans of both properties. In addition if Zerg beats Terran in a major motion picture it may convince some folks at blizzard that Terran doesn't need to be nerfed in the next patch. :p The problem with using either Starcraft is that it's kind of a poor engine to simulate ship-to-ship combat, and even worse if you try to use zerg fliers for bugger ships. The best way to do it is to give Creative Assembly the game rights in return for a modified version of the Total War series' naval battle engine. (Although that might be the Honorverse fan in me talking) | ||
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Arkless
Canada1547 Posts
On March 23 2012 13:54 DrLOAC wrote: emy, the older boy, by using enemy units which emphasizes his ability to understand the Formics. Plus it would be a shout-out to a certain group who may just be rabid fans of both properties. In addition if Zerg beats Terran in a major motion picture it may convince some folks at blizzard that Terran doesn't need to be nerfed in the next patch. :p One can only hope | ||
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DrLOAC
United States53 Posts
On March 23 2012 23:46 Hertzy wrote: The problem with using either Starcraft is that it's kind of a poor engine to simulate ship-to-ship combat, and even worse if you try to use zerg fliers for bugger ships. The best way to do it is to give Creative Assembly the game rights in return for a modified version of the Total War series' naval battle engine. (Although that might be the Honorverse fan in me talking) I think we are talking about two different parts of the story. The last half of the book involves the command school where he commands his former team mates in using the "flight simulator" to fight the buggers. That IS NOT the scene I was recommending using SC2 for. There was a short scene early in the book when Ender is like 6 and first arrives at the battle school. This scene occurs before any of the 0 G games take place In this scene he challenges an older kid to play one of the computer games. OSC describes the games a simulator with flying spaceships. The type of the game is not the important part of the scene, I feel. The important part was Ender showing off his tactical brilliance. So why not let him show it on game we all love that just happens to have the right kind of units for a story about Marines and bugs and happens to reward good strategy. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On March 24 2012 00:42 DrLOAC wrote: I think we are talking about two different parts of the story. The last half of the book involves the command school where he commands his former team mates in using the "flight simulator" to fight the buggers. That IS NOT the scene I was recommending using SC2 for. There was a short scene early in the book when Ender is like 6 and first arrives at the battle school. This scene occurs before any of the 0 G games take place In this scene he challenges an older kid to play one of the computer games. OSC describes the games a simulator with flying spaceships. The type of the game is not the important part of the scene, I feel. The important part was Ender showing off his tactical brilliance. So why not let him show it on game we all love that just happens to have the right kind of units for a story about Marines and bugs and happens to reward good strategy. The type of game is completely integral to the scene. It's about the older kids being "computer trained", meaning they just respond to preset patterns, and the computer just gets faster and faster until no human can react or respond fast enough. Either way, it's the kind of scene that will be cut from any film. And SC2 is far too cluttered to show anything understandable within a 5-10 minute time frame. I expect the entire movie to be shit, though, because Hollywood is going to make it about kids playing games in space, instead of children being trained to be soldiers and commanders. | ||
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DrLOAC
United States53 Posts
On March 24 2012 05:17 WolfintheSheep wrote: The type of game is completely integral to the scene. It's about the older kids being "computer trained", meaning they just respond to preset patterns, and the computer just gets faster and faster until no human can react or respond fast enough. Either way, it's the kind of scene that will be cut from any film. And SC2 is far too cluttered to show anything understandable within a 5-10 minute time frame. I expect the entire movie to be shit, though, because Hollywood is going to make it about kids playing games in space, instead of children being trained to be soldiers and commanders. My basic point, no one will understand a game shown for all of a few seconds other than Ender wining against an older opponent. So why not use a well known game that some of the hardcore audience would actually get. Plus your description of playing the computer sounds like the insane Ai. Other than that I agree with the rest of your concerns over the movie. Plus this whole thing was just a somewhat nifty ideas tying two of my favorite things together. ![]() | ||
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Kojak21
Canada1104 Posts
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myopia
United States2928 Posts
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Purpl3
United States1067 Posts
On March 24 2012 07:40 myopia wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if the movie publishers actually contracted developers to make the arcade game / fantasy game / final 'game' custom for them, and then release said games on iTunes or Steam or whatever as part of marketing hype. If the movie is good, they'd make a killing on the games. If they're going for a great movie they would, if they're trying to appeal to the mass audience I doubt they'd work that hard. | ||
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DrLOAC
United States53 Posts
On March 24 2012 07:25 Kojak21 wrote: thats the stupidest thing ive ever heard, using starcraft and wow in a movie, when the movies got nothing to do with those games They did it in an episode of the Office :p But since you seem upset by the idea don't worry it won't happen. ![]() | ||
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Crissaegrim
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climax
United States1088 Posts
With Robert Ocri (writer for the recent J.J. Abram's Star Trek), Gigi Pritzker, and Linda McDonough (producers of Drive) producing this film, I trust they will lead Gavin Hood to make a good film. The cast is really solid and has a lot of potential. | ||
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Retgery
Canada1229 Posts
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aebriol
Norway2066 Posts
That's kind of a ... rough scene ... and it's so needed to explain the thought process of Andrew Wiggin later on when he breaks down somewhat and doesn't see the point in progressing. It also gives a clear insight into the thought process when they select him and groom him to be the commander. It would be an awesome movie ... if they don't tone it down. But it's no Harry Potter'ish kind of story. | ||
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Shockk
Germany2269 Posts
On March 31 2012 02:00 Retgery wrote: This probably isn;t going to turn out well. If they followed the book to the letter it would be sued for child pornography or some other ridiculous law suit. If this is going to work they will have up Ender's age by quite a lot. I think the hardest part will be to find a character who is both young enough and can convincingly portrait Ender's development over his years in Battle School. The have to find a genuine acting prodigy if they want the movie to work well for that. | ||
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Retgery
Canada1229 Posts
On March 31 2012 02:15 Shockk wrote: I think the hardest part will be to find a character who is both young enough and can convincingly portrait Ender's development over his years in Battle School. The have to find a genuine acting prodigy if they want the movie to work well for that. If they the raise ender's age up to maybe 12 I think it could work, there's a number of actors at that could play him well at that age. I more worried about things like the shower scene, or how things will be in the barracks/dorms. | ||
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