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Sc2zero7
United States574 Posts
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Tazza
Korea (South)1678 Posts
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Sovano
United States1503 Posts
On November 14 2012 18:11 seiferoth10 wrote: It all goes downhill from here! Cynical, I know. There are a few near it, but nothing has beaten City Hunter imo. /flameshield Is this true? As a person who just finished his first k-drama (City Hunter) and having the same experience with when I began watching the best anime first, I'm a bit depressed if I'll follow the same "downhill" feelings I had when I began exploring more anime to the point where I just watch it because I have nothing else to do. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On August 04 2013 14:34 Sovano wrote: Is this true? As a person who just finished his first k-drama (City Hunter) and having the same experience with when I began watching the best anime first, I'm a bit depressed if I'll follow the same "downhill" feelings I had when I began exploring more anime to the point where I just watch it because I have nothing else to do. First Iris was pretty good too. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Never re-watched City Hunter. It's just so.... boring. | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
11k post lmao | ||
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logikly
United States329 Posts
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Sc2zero7
United States574 Posts
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Reno(TE)
United Kingdom434 Posts
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
IHYV was my favourite drama this year so far although i definitely started watch less of them cause it's gotten quite meh having to sit through the frustrating dragging which always starts after 10eps. Shark and Nine were good, too! (super disappointing Iris2 didnt even bother to finish it yet. stuck at ep 18) | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + LOL Moon Chae Won's drunk mode and reaction at the end cracks me up | ||
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anGe
Belgium23 Posts
On August 04 2013 15:27 logikly wrote: anyone watched shark and know if its any good? I liked it, mainly because I'm a big Kim Nam Gil fanboy. It's not at the level of Bad Guys though but the plot is rather complex and the actors are great. | ||
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Protocon
United States255 Posts
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Lokk
Canada635 Posts
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falconfan02
United States231 Posts
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babylon
8765 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I'm also keeping track of how useless most women are in the K-dramas I have been watching. Once again, not too impressed in the characterization in this one. Main lady is there to be saved (repeatedly). I find it incredibly deplorable that all the "good" women are useless damsels spouting pretty words but not really doing anything, while the only competent women are antagonists. Interested to see where Ueno Rei will go, though my predictive powers tell me that she will try to kill Kang-to only to succumb to the Power of Love and fail in her mission. Also, the costuming is really confusing me. A lot of the haircuts and suits look incredibly modern for a drama set in the 1930s. | ||
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Sc2zero7
United States574 Posts
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babylon
8765 Posts
On August 07 2013 02:43 Sc2zero7 wrote: You just generalized every women personality ever put on television or at least in kdrama land. When has the main female role not been the damsel in distress? It's just how men portrays women in society or if the writers are female, how women portray themselves in society. Either way, Asia has huge gender inequality issues so I wouldn't expect some competent female empowerment role from anything anytime soon. At least not something that will be taken seriously. I'm aware of how seriously gender roles are taken in Korean (and generally, Asian) society. Sometimes I watch shows and take note of trends out of curiosity, because I'm interested in how societies portray minorities or women in popular media. I don't expect any great progress to be made, but even small indications of progress or variability in how women are written would be nice. It is not so much about female empowerment though as it is about having women who are written as well as the men. One show that comes to mind is Coffee Prince, where both men and women are portrayed as complicated human beings, even despite the ridiculousness of the situation and some of the characters. You would think it would not be so hard, since both women and men are human, but for some reason, women are often written as imbalanced caricatures of themselves,* while men are not (minus the propensity to go all fluff and romance). One huge offender of this is Reply 1997, which I otherwise think is a good show: the women are badly written and shallow, while the men are well-written and complicated (again, minus the propensity to go all fluff and romance). Anyways, this is not only a Korean thing as you've noted. It's very prevalent in Western media as well. I mean, I don't want a kick-ass, martial arts expert, no need for men, super-power detective heroine, I just want a show that portrays women in, well, all the complexity that they show in real life while being respectful to the historical setting, just like how they write the men. I hope that makes sense. It's like how I don't want to see Asian characters in Western series or films as martial arts experts or computer nerds or evil ninjas with a flair for Eastern mysticism all the time. + Show Spoiler + * Where oh where does this loud, spunky, aggravating girl type come from anyways? It is so ridiculously prevalent my ears hurt ... Coffee Prince handled it well, because they gave Eun-Chae a ton of redeeming qualities to offset her flaws, so much so that despite her character type, I can't call her immature. But then you have someone like Shi-Won from Reply 1997, just whaaat the fucccckkkkk, how can you hinge an entire love story on someone as spoiled and irritating as her? But yes, one thing going for Gaksital is that my ear drums don't have to deal with a loud, spunky, aggravating girl.  | ||
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Sc2zero7
United States574 Posts
As for Reply 1997, I wouldn't say that the women are badly written because the show mostly showed the thoughts and point of views of the men rather than the women. I do think they portrayed the whole crazy fangirl aspect pretty well though. I wish I could say in reality that the fangirling is just a hyperbole but sadly its not. In fact, it's probably even worse. I'm not sure if you've seen I Hear Your Voice, but I think Lee Bo Young's character was well written here. | ||
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andyrau
13015 Posts
Watch the dramas that aren't mainstream-flavor-of-the-month to see some stronger female characters. In East of Eden, the males are basically supporting cast while the female lead is the star, but she displays the typical female weakness. I suspect it's just a platform to demonstrate her femininity. I also notice that the stronger female characters are older characters and matriarchs in varying positions of social or financial power. They also play more of an antagonistic supporting cast rather than the lead. On that note, I feel that it becomes just as problematic when the female is too brash and fills a traditional masculine role; the writers simply overcompensate. Either the male lead feels completely emasculated, or the female lead gets ridiculously annoying to watch because for some reason, she keeps trying to emphasize how much of an 'independent I ain't need no man' woman she is. it's rare that writers strike an acceptable balance between the two. | ||
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