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Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 19:03:48
July 25 2011 19:02 GMT
#201
On July 26 2011 00:34 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 21:52 Emon_ wrote:
On July 25 2011 21:07 Mementoss wrote:
Im pretty sure it was Gus on the phone. Also anyone else find episode 2 a bit dry? It seemed like not much happened except Walter being paranoid and wanting to kill Gus, Jessie being fucked up, and Hank being a dick. Didn't really end on a note to get me super excited for episode 3 and nothing too important (eventwise - character development was probably the main reason behind this episode) happened and episode 1 was much better.

Seconded. Felt like a filler episode full of hidden advertisements (Jessie's stereo, the guys talking about video games, Shradder's bed and a whole bunch of other crap) I fast forwarded through a lot of it. Walk talking with Mike was nice. Other than that - congrats to the team on creating an episode about nothing and getting paid.

Wait you think that the video game talk was advertisement? Anyone whos saying this episode is a bit lacking is missing many of the finer points and are underestimating the importance of what walt asked of mike
amazing episode in my opinion

I couldn't care less really. Talking CoD for a couple of minutes - whatever the reason - can't be bad for the EA people. Maybe the younger generation isn't as jaded and will check it out, which is deceitful, because EA probably payed for that spot. But I suppose that's the name of the game.
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
DM20
Profile Joined September 2008
Canada544 Posts
July 25 2011 21:27 GMT
#202
All the games they talked about are from different companies...
Awesomeness
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1361 Posts
July 25 2011 21:31 GMT
#203
On July 26 2011 04:02 Emon_ wrote:
I couldn't care less really. Talking CoD for a couple of minutes - whatever the reason - can't be bad for the EA people. Maybe the younger generation isn't as jaded and will check it out, which is deceitful, because EA probably payed for that spot. But I suppose that's the name of the game.


wow, must be serious paranoia you have going on there. They talked about it, because that's the stuff guys in their age talk about. Should the writers just ignore all of pop-culture because people like you might think it's advertisement? It's mind-blowing how people always find something to complain about.
xlord 5:0
sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
July 25 2011 21:33 GMT
#204
On July 26 2011 04:02 Emon_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 00:34 Scaramanga wrote:
On July 25 2011 21:52 Emon_ wrote:
On July 25 2011 21:07 Mementoss wrote:
Im pretty sure it was Gus on the phone. Also anyone else find episode 2 a bit dry? It seemed like not much happened except Walter being paranoid and wanting to kill Gus, Jessie being fucked up, and Hank being a dick. Didn't really end on a note to get me super excited for episode 3 and nothing too important (eventwise - character development was probably the main reason behind this episode) happened and episode 1 was much better.

Seconded. Felt like a filler episode full of hidden advertisements (Jessie's stereo, the guys talking about video games, Shradder's bed and a whole bunch of other crap) I fast forwarded through a lot of it. Walk talking with Mike was nice. Other than that - congrats to the team on creating an episode about nothing and getting paid.

Wait you think that the video game talk was advertisement? Anyone whos saying this episode is a bit lacking is missing many of the finer points and are underestimating the importance of what walt asked of mike
amazing episode in my opinion

I couldn't care less really. Talking CoD for a couple of minutes - whatever the reason - can't be bad for the EA people. Maybe the younger generation isn't as jaded and will check it out, which is deceitful, because EA probably payed for that spot. But I suppose that's the name of the game.


First off, it's Activision not EA. And they also mentioned Left 4 Dead (EA/Valve) and Resident Evil 4 (Capcom)
My grandpa could've proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, he's also dead. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
Voltaire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1485 Posts
July 25 2011 22:35 GMT
#205
I don't think there were any "hidden" advertisements. The episode wasn't nearly as plot developing as the last, but it wasn't bad.

I thought Walt's discussion with Mike at the end seemed reckless and unlike him. I don't think the old Walt would have actually said "Get me in a room with him" or whatever it was; he would have just hinted at it instead.
As long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
July 25 2011 23:04 GMT
#206
I liked the storyline with Jesse's character. After Jane died he sat in his house that was dead silent, crying all day and listening to her voice mail message over and over. This time he bought a stereo system and got his friends over. Then he says "it's too quiet in here" and so he starts a party and tries to keep it going as long as possible. When he is at work he has his ipod headphones on. At the end he is desperate to have his friends stay over. He is doing everything he can to block out his memory of shooting Gale and trying to avoid the "quiet" so that he is not alone with his thoughts. I pictured the final scene exactly as it would happen: him going back inside and turning up the stereo and crying beside it. Such quality writing that they can portray a character's thoughts perfectly without him saying more than a handful of words.

Another A+ episode imo
Resent
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia938 Posts
July 25 2011 23:10 GMT
#207
On July 26 2011 01:47 Kh0nsu wrote:
Another great episode full of great character development, obviously not as impressive as a masterpiece such as "The Fly" but still well written and full of juicy foreshadowing.

Breaking Bad is clearly a show about characters, keeping the action in moderation only strengthens it's impact. And with a cast this strong, I could watch these guys eat breakfast for 40 minutes and be entertained.

Buuuuttt... I'm a huge fanboi so I'm biased as fuck.

So much thissssssss. If you are watching this show for action packed episodes and fast storyline turnover, well, i don't know how you made it to season 4 calling yourself a fan. The show has always been slow and methodical, heavily character driven.
lizzard_warish
Profile Joined June 2011
589 Posts
July 26 2011 00:49 GMT
#208
I think this is a good episode, it sets a prelude for all 3 male characters future instability/issues they deal with. Hank is destroying his marriage and is clearly depressed, may commit suicide or simply ask for a divorce [not wanting his wife to see him in such a weak state]. Jesse is clearly going on a bender and who knows where it will end, and Walt is not only dangerously paranoid but he actually asked [mike?] to help him kill Gus. That might get him and Jesse killed, it might lead to Gus being murdered, who knows. This is a VERY exciting episode because its the calm before the storm.
flowSthead
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1065 Posts
July 26 2011 02:25 GMT
#209
It was good, but I can't say I was blown away. Definitely seemed smoother than last episode. For some reason this season they are getting the supporting characters much better (Skylar, Hank, Marie), but Walter feels off for me for the first time. I can't really explain it, but he just doesn't feel quite right to me. Like they sacrificed some of his more realistic elements for plot/dramatic purposes.
"You can be creative but I will crush it under the iron fist of my conservative play." - Liquid`Tyler █ MVP ■ MC ■ Boxer ■ Grubby █
Krohm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1857 Posts
July 26 2011 03:05 GMT
#210
On July 26 2011 11:25 flowSthead wrote:
It was good, but I can't say I was blown away. Definitely seemed smoother than last episode. For some reason this season they are getting the supporting characters much better (Skylar, Hank, Marie), but Walter feels off for me for the first time. I can't really explain it, but he just doesn't feel quite right to me. Like they sacrificed some of his more realistic elements for plot/dramatic purposes.

I feel part of the reason is because Walter seems to be changing for the worst. He's killed 4 people himself now, and he's been responsible for the deaths of others (Victor, and Gale). It's almost like his humanity is dying off with that? I can see him becoming more of a ruthless person as this season continues.

I do agree though as others have stated that his talk with Mike seemed a little out of character, but given the circumstances I think Walter was also aware of how Mike was handling the death of Victor. Mike most likely attacked him because it's Walter's fault Victor got killed and because he still has loyalties towards Gus, but not enough to rat him out to Gus.

Overall I really liked the episode. It really thickened the plot in my opinion which I don't mind at all.
Not bad for a cat toy.
flowSthead
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1065 Posts
July 26 2011 03:17 GMT
#211
On July 26 2011 12:05 Krohm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 11:25 flowSthead wrote:
It was good, but I can't say I was blown away. Definitely seemed smoother than last episode. For some reason this season they are getting the supporting characters much better (Skylar, Hank, Marie), but Walter feels off for me for the first time. I can't really explain it, but he just doesn't feel quite right to me. Like they sacrificed some of his more realistic elements for plot/dramatic purposes.

I feel part of the reason is because Walter seems to be changing for the worst. He's killed 4 people himself now, and he's been responsible for the deaths of others (Victor, and Gale). It's almost like his humanity is dying off with that? I can see him becoming more of a ruthless person as this season continues.

I do agree though as others have stated that his talk with Mike seemed a little out of character, but given the circumstances I think Walter was also aware of how Mike was handling the death of Victor. Mike most likely attacked him because it's Walter's fault Victor got killed and because he still has loyalties towards Gus, but not enough to rat him out to Gus.

Overall I really liked the episode. It really thickened the plot in my opinion which I don't mind at all.


No, I don't mind the killing so much. Or at all really. Walter's most heinous act is arguably letting Jane die when he could have helped her. That I thought was great because it seemed in character. In this episode the scene with Walter + Show Spoiler +
going to Gus's house out in the open, under lights, with the intention of walking across a huge ass yard to go shoot him
just seemed completely not Walter. Sure, it was dramatic and it established how serious Walter is about all of this. But it just felt strangely not well thought out. Walter has shown to do irrational things before, but not when he has time to think, which he has had plenty of lately.

It just feels off for the whole episode, and parts of last episode too, not just that scene.
"You can be creative but I will crush it under the iron fist of my conservative play." - Liquid`Tyler █ MVP ■ MC ■ Boxer ■ Grubby █
lizzard_warish
Profile Joined June 2011
589 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 03:43:37
July 26 2011 03:43 GMT
#212
On July 26 2011 12:17 flowSthead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 12:05 Krohm wrote:
On July 26 2011 11:25 flowSthead wrote:
It was good, but I can't say I was blown away. Definitely seemed smoother than last episode. For some reason this season they are getting the supporting characters much better (Skylar, Hank, Marie), but Walter feels off for me for the first time. I can't really explain it, but he just doesn't feel quite right to me. Like they sacrificed some of his more realistic elements for plot/dramatic purposes.

I feel part of the reason is because Walter seems to be changing for the worst. He's killed 4 people himself now, and he's been responsible for the deaths of others (Victor, and Gale). It's almost like his humanity is dying off with that? I can see him becoming more of a ruthless person as this season continues.

I do agree though as others have stated that his talk with Mike seemed a little out of character, but given the circumstances I think Walter was also aware of how Mike was handling the death of Victor. Mike most likely attacked him because it's Walter's fault Victor got killed and because he still has loyalties towards Gus, but not enough to rat him out to Gus.

Overall I really liked the episode. It really thickened the plot in my opinion which I don't mind at all.


No, I don't mind the killing so much. Or at all really. Walter's most heinous act is arguably letting Jane die when he could have helped her. That I thought was great because it seemed in character. In this episode the scene with Walter + Show Spoiler +
going to Gus's house out in the open, under lights, with the intention of walking across a huge ass yard to go shoot him
just seemed completely not Walter. Sure, it was dramatic and it established how serious Walter is about all of this. But it just felt strangely not well thought out. Walter has shown to do irrational things before, but not when he has time to think, which he has had plenty of lately.

It just feels off for the whole episode, and parts of last episode too, not just that scene.
This always confuses me, the way people perceive characterizations. Apparently acting out of the established norm means they act out of character, what? We have all acted differently than our own norm dependent upon the stress or any other factors, especially when/if were going through a transformative period. Previously Walter was rational when he had time to think...but its been a year, nearly died from cancer, numerous near death experiences, constant fear of being killed by a drug lord, etc. Irrationality seems PERFECTLY reasonable for anyone, especially a guy like Walter who is merely an academic.

People always narrow characters way more than they would actual people.
Boltftw
Profile Joined November 2010
United States14 Posts
July 27 2011 16:32 GMT
#213
Does anyone feel like punching Skylar for being so reckless lately. Calling Sal about there whereabouts of Walt, calling Walt about purchasing the car wash, paying for Hank's medical bills, and approaching the owner of the car wash without Walt then getting embarrassed by him. At the moment the only character I can not stand is Skylar. I am starting to feel sorry for Hank's wife a lot though since Hank is becoming more a douche bag since he is depressed.
Good1
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation138 Posts
July 27 2011 16:52 GMT
#214
You guys hyped it so much i decided to give it a try. I watched 4 episodes of 1-st season, it's okay, but i didn't like it that much. So will it get better or it's just not my thing after all?
sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
July 27 2011 16:55 GMT
#215
On July 28 2011 01:52 Good1 wrote:
You guys hyped it so much i decided to give it a try. I watched 4 episodes of 1-st season, it's okay, but i didn't like it that much. So will it get better or it's just not my thing after all?


I think Season 1 is definitely the weakest season -- so there's that I guess.

I'd keep going.
My grandpa could've proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, he's also dead. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
DrBoo
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1177 Posts
July 27 2011 17:55 GMT
#216
On July 28 2011 01:32 Boltftw wrote:
Does anyone feel like punching Skylar for being so reckless lately. Calling Sal about there whereabouts of Walt, calling Walt about purchasing the car wash, paying for Hank's medical bills, and approaching the owner of the car wash without Walt then getting embarrassed by him. At the moment the only character I can not stand is Skylar. I am starting to feel sorry for Hank's wife a lot though since Hank is becoming more a douche bag since he is depressed.


Yes I totally feel the same way. I think its because Skyler is so green with the whole drug scene and etc. I think she feels like she's trying to help but it clearly isn't helping at all cause she's just simply making more trouble then she's helping with.
Unless of course that's the entire point? She could still be angry at Walt for not informing her about this earlier?
"DrBoo is an elaborate troll" -Pufftrees
DrBoo
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1177 Posts
July 27 2011 17:55 GMT
#217
On July 28 2011 01:55 sjschmidt93 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 01:52 Good1 wrote:
You guys hyped it so much i decided to give it a try. I watched 4 episodes of 1-st season, it's okay, but i didn't like it that much. So will it get better or it's just not my thing after all?


I think Season 1 is definitely the weakest season -- so there's that I guess.

I'd keep going.


Woah woah woah!

Season 1 was AMAZING! I think if anything the combination of Season 1 and 2 were the BEST so far that I've seen.
"DrBoo is an elaborate troll" -Pufftrees
Resent
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia938 Posts
July 28 2011 00:03 GMT
#218
'Weakest' may have been poor wording on his part, i would say the first few episodes were the 'slowest' out of any, the show picked up its pace late in S1/early S2.
RmoteCntrld
Profile Joined June 2010
United States596 Posts
July 30 2011 05:00 GMT
#219
Guys the 2nd episode was full of important character development and furthering the plot. Rewatch it and actually think about what happened in the episode. Read between the lines, and you'll realize that every episode is crucial to this story.
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
August 01 2011 04:03 GMT
#220
So... Skylar annoys the fuck out of me.
Sup.
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