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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 05:38:49
May 23 2011 05:37 GMT
#61
lysa tully killed jon arryn. book 4 was pretty boring
Dominions 4: "Thrones of Ascension".
Nayl
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada413 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 07:57:32
May 23 2011 07:56 GMT
#62
so who is going to die in this season that's suppose to die in storm of swords?

any theories?
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
May 23 2011 08:17 GMT
#63
Almost everyone says Rast
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
May 23 2011 08:28 GMT
#64
On May 23 2011 17:17 Nevuk wrote:
Almost everyone says Rast


who was Rast again
Nayl
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada413 Posts
May 23 2011 08:34 GMT
#65
On May 23 2011 17:28 Skilledblob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 17:17 Nevuk wrote:
Almost everyone says Rast


who was Rast again


The guy who wanted to beat Sam.

I guess Rast would hardly make any impact.
Michaels
Profile Joined August 2010
419 Posts
May 23 2011 08:45 GMT
#66
Robs wolf will die and his head will be sewn onto Robs body!
Acid~
Profile Joined September 2010
Thailand442 Posts
May 23 2011 11:48 GMT
#67
So hyped for episode 8 ! (titled : The Pointy End)

I hope that's the episode where we see Syrio demolish the Lannister guards. They had better not fuck up that scene.

Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4904 Posts
May 23 2011 12:05 GMT
#68
On May 23 2011 10:18 Xinder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 10:02 skyrunner wrote:
On May 23 2011 09:28 Xivsa wrote:
Who is Coldhands? Considering all the clues concerning other plots and characters, there don't seem to be too many about him. But that's probably because Bran was left out of AFfC. Or am I missing something?

Gotta be Benjen Stark. He has been lost north of the wall since the beginning of game of thrones.

Can't really be anyone else, unless it's a completely new character. Besides it doesn't really make any sense to from a nrrative perspective to include him in the story only to be gone early and nothing more happening with him. Jon has said multiple times "missing, not dead" wich to me indicates he might be right (metareasoning or w/e).


I never actually looked at it that way. That's a really good call. Though I hope they discuss how he didn't turn into an Other or a wight. Also I'd be willing to bet he is dead but in the same sense that Catelyn is "dead". How he would have gotten to that state I have no idea but perhaps the 3 eyed crow that he's taking Bran to see is the same one that raised him up after he died.


I just wanted to add to this, because I'm happy that someone else came to the same conclusion I did - Coldhands HAS to be Benjen Stark, nothing else would make sense (then again, Martin is pretty good at not being easily figured out ).

I present you another question: don't you think Qyburn is a little suspicious? I've just re-read the 4th book (for at least the 3rd time, but maybe the 4th ), and I seem to find little oddities about him. Sort of like the clues that pointed to Renly's and Loras' gay relationship (and we all know how the show basically just admitted that ).

Don't you think he's kind of an agent to the Others (or their supposed God, "whose name you shouldn't say", the arch-enemy of R'hllor)? Maybe he stumbled into something real dark during his studies in necromancy, back in Oldtown. He's doing a real fine job of helping Cersei destroy the realm's unity, I dare to say it's on purpose.
Complete the cycle!
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4904 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 12:35:46
May 23 2011 12:12 GMT
#69
About Lyanna and Rhaegar:

Nedonce wonders if Rhaegar was the sort of man who would visit whorehouses, and thinks it's highly unlikely. I think that's true - would that sort of man (who, according to Jaime promised "changes" in the kingdom before he rode to the Battle of the Trident) just abduct a lord's daughter? I think that's unplausible. There's definitely a lot that should be told about that little part of the story.

Edited: I remembered it wrong, it's indeed Ned wondering about if he frequented brothels or not, my bad.

Complete the cycle!
pred470r
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria3265 Posts
May 23 2011 12:14 GMT
#70
Dany exiles Jorah Mormont.
Jon is master of the Night's watch.
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4904 Posts
May 23 2011 12:16 GMT
#71
^

What kind of title "master" is? Lord Commander is the proper word you're looking for.
Complete the cycle!
pred470r
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria3265 Posts
May 23 2011 12:17 GMT
#72
You know what I'm talking about.
Also maester Emon is another living Targarien, and he's gonna die before he sees Dany.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
May 23 2011 12:21 GMT
#73
On May 23 2011 21:12 Naib wrote:
About Lyanna and Rhaegar:

Jaime once wonders if Rhaegar was the sort of man who would visit whorehouses, and thinks it's highly unlikely. I think that's true - would that sort of man (who, also according to Jaime promised "changes" in the kingdom before he rode to the Battle of the Trident) just abduct a lord's daughter? I think that's unplausible. There's definitely a lot that should be told about that little part of the story.

There are so many clues in the books that point to Rhaegar and Lyanna being Jon's true parents. This article sums it up pretty well.

http://towerofthehand.com/essays/chrisholden/jon_snows_parents.html
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4904 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 12:26:19
May 23 2011 12:25 GMT
#74
On May 23 2011 21:17 pred470r wrote:
You know what I'm talking about.
Also maester Emon is another living Targarien, and he's gonna die before he sees Dany.


I do, but I'm set off by your spelling and technical mistakes.

So it's "Aemon" and "Targaryen"

I mean, come on. If you're going to post some meaningless one-liners, at least spell names properly...
Complete the cycle!
althaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1001 Posts
May 23 2011 12:34 GMT
#75
Euron hired a faceless man to kill his brother. It is known.
The first rule we don't talk about race conditions. of race conditions is
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 12:54:16
May 23 2011 12:51 GMT
#76
I was very, very disappointed at AFFC. I was a huge fan of the Stark familly, but they seems lost, in AFFC they are almost no chapter with a Stark as POV.
Seems like the Stark familly suffered a great deal during the first 2-3 books, and that leave a huge hole, but the other familly did not suffer at all.
So tired at the lannister, being the bad guys since book 1 chapter 1, and still did not suffer any arm except Tyrion (a lannister) killing Tywin.

Soon Jaime is gonna become the good knight that everybody love while he is a bastard that launch a 8 years old kid from the top of a tower so that he could fuck his sister in secret...

Every houses, except Stark, lost almost no important / developped characters. Renly was almost an unknown (sadly) and died like a shit in a blink of the eye against a shadow.

What will become the TV show when Ned / Robb will be dead, rickon away with Osha, Jon a commander that does not appear at all during AFFC except through the eyes of a big fat coward, and catelyn arya sansa with new names ?
No stark in Season 4.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
May 23 2011 13:03 GMT
#77
I think that if they take the the show to season 4 they will not enact AFFC exactly, rather they should combine it with book 5 and make two seasons or a 20-something episode season. Too many important and known characters do not make an appearance in book 4, I can't imagine it would really work on TV.
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
May 23 2011 13:05 GMT
#78
AFFC is kinda underrated in terms of how you get to see what goes on in Cersei and Jaime's head. I really appreciated that because before AFFC, they were simply the bad guys (or rather, the most evil among the other evil folk) and now they still are somewhat bad guys but at least you understand them more.

And who doesn't like the Dorne chapters? Hotah and Arianne were cool.
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
May 23 2011 13:05 GMT
#79
Calling the Lannisters evil is very subjective, the same with calling the Starks good. Sansa betrays her family, Arya kills innocent people, Robb betrays his friends for lust etc
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
eoin62
Profile Joined May 2011
2 Posts
May 23 2011 13:07 GMT
#80
Don't Book 4 and Book 5 overlap in timeline? If they were to get that far in the series (which I hope they do, obviously), I would think that book 4 and 5 would handled chronologically, rather than as its done in the books. That is pure speculation of course.

The lack of Starks (well really only lacking Jon and Bran) in book 4 was more because GRRM added a book and didn't want to just split the planned book in halk, not because he wanted a book with no Jon/Tyrion/Dany/Bran. The split/extra book was a product of doing away with the 5 year gap, I think.

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