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On May 24 2011 00:00 zYwi3c wrote:Oh lol, that sucks, he is one of only few characters in this show that i liked. Now i hope that Dothraki will pwn them all :D
Yeah, In fact almost all the major Stark dies before book 3 (meaning Stark with more than 14 years old) and the remaining become sub par characters in sub par story lines, except maybe for the bastard (who is already in a sub par storyline).
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On May 24 2011 00:20 snotboogie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2011 23:23 zYwi3c wrote:
I didnt read the books, but the ending of episode 7 is just awesome. Can someone tell, what will happend to Ned Stark ? Ned Stark opens 14 Nexus. The Lannisters open 6 pool. GG.
On steppes of war.
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On May 24 2011 00:21 Cylon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 00:20 snotboogie wrote:On May 23 2011 23:23 zYwi3c wrote:
I didnt read the books, but the ending of episode 7 is just awesome. Can someone tell, what will happend to Ned Stark ? Ned Stark opens 14 Nexus. The Lannisters open 6 pool. GG. On steppes of war.
Haha, this and the thing about the warriors without dicks that kill puppies made me lol.
Thx tl.
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On May 23 2011 23:24 Conquest101 wrote:
Hoh boy, it's been a long time since I've posted.
I find myself wanting to defend the Starks as well. Robb's "mistake" was being too honorable if anything. While grief-stricken over his brothers' deaths, he slept with Jeyne Westerling, who was taking care of him (IIRC he got wounded by a crossbow when taking the Crag). Instead of going "oh hey, thanks for that, peace out", he chose to do the "honorable" thing and marry her. That, of course, led to the whole downward spiral culminating in the Red Wedding.
And you can't really say that anything Sansa or Arya did was evil. Misguided, sure, but not evil.
Also, speaking of Arya, she'd better not be permanently blind, or I'm going to rage.
They are not evil, they merely commited evil acts. This goes for for some of the lannisters too. Jaime doesnt push Bran out the window because he's evil he does it for "love". Its really no different then arya killing a young guard so she can escape. The only evil people, are guys like gregor clegane who commit evil acts solelyy for amusement or pleasure
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On May 24 2011 00:24 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2011 23:24 Conquest101 wrote:
Hoh boy, it's been a long time since I've posted.
I find myself wanting to defend the Starks as well. Robb's "mistake" was being too honorable if anything. While grief-stricken over his brothers' deaths, he slept with Jeyne Westerling, who was taking care of him (IIRC he got wounded by a crossbow when taking the Crag). Instead of going "oh hey, thanks for that, peace out", he chose to do the "honorable" thing and marry her. That, of course, led to the whole downward spiral culminating in the Red Wedding.
And you can't really say that anything Sansa or Arya did was evil. Misguided, sure, but not evil.
Also, speaking of Arya, she'd better not be permanently blind, or I'm going to rage. They are not evil, they merely commited evil acts. This goes for for some of the lannisters too. Jaime doesnt push Bran out the window because he's evil he does it for "love". Its really no different then arya killing a young guard so she can escape. The only evil people, are guys like gregor clegane who commit evil acts solelyy for amusement or pleasure
I'm curious to know what explanation you will have to explain how Cersei act with Lancel, how she act with Qyburn or how Tywin act with Shae and the previous lover of Tyrion.
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Im kinda disappointed, that Starks / Dothraki wont win the whole "Game of thrones" :<
I really hate all the Lannisters ( well, Dwarf is awesome ;P )
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On May 24 2011 00:32 zYwi3c wrote:
Im kinda disappointed, that Starks / Dothraki wont win the whole "Game of thrones" :<
I really hate all the Lannisters ( well, Dwarf is awesome ;P )
They will certainly win, the saga is not over. The Dothraki are over, but Daenerys is quite a force, and Starks, even if they are scattered, will still come back one day or another.
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On May 24 2011 00:30 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 00:24 1Eris1 wrote:On May 23 2011 23:24 Conquest101 wrote:
Hoh boy, it's been a long time since I've posted.
I find myself wanting to defend the Starks as well. Robb's "mistake" was being too honorable if anything. While grief-stricken over his brothers' deaths, he slept with Jeyne Westerling, who was taking care of him (IIRC he got wounded by a crossbow when taking the Crag). Instead of going "oh hey, thanks for that, peace out", he chose to do the "honorable" thing and marry her. That, of course, led to the whole downward spiral culminating in the Red Wedding.
And you can't really say that anything Sansa or Arya did was evil. Misguided, sure, but not evil.
Also, speaking of Arya, she'd better not be permanently blind, or I'm going to rage. They are not evil, they merely commited evil acts. This goes for for some of the lannisters too. Jaime doesnt push Bran out the window because he's evil he does it for "love". Its really no different then arya killing a young guard so she can escape. The only evil people, are guys like gregor clegane who commit evil acts solelyy for amusement or pleasure I'm curious to know what explanation you will have to explain how Cersei act with Lancel, how she act with Qyburn or how Tywin act with Shae and the previous lover of Tyrion.
Im not arguing that all the lannisters are good, just like not all starks are. Tywin is probably evil, ill give you that, but cersei is borderline. The only person that loves her is the one person she cant be with, thats gotta be frustrating. Couple that with being a strong willed woman in a male dominated society and you start to pity her
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On May 24 2011 00:32 zYwi3c wrote:
Im kinda disappointed, that Starks / Dothraki wont win the whole "Game of thrones" :<
I really hate all the Lannisters ( well, Dwarf is awesome ;P )
The game of thrones is not over. The song of ice and fire is still being sung.
Only 4 of the 7 books have been released.
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On May 24 2011 00:41 snotboogie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 00:32 zYwi3c wrote:
Im kinda disappointed, that Starks / Dothraki wont win the whole "Game of thrones" :<
I really hate all the Lannisters ( well, Dwarf is awesome ;P ) The game of thrones is not over. The song of ice and fire is still being sung. Only 4 of the 7 books have been released.
It might not even be 7, he's increased the number of books before. ;P
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On May 24 2011 00:40 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 00:30 WhiteDog wrote:On May 24 2011 00:24 1Eris1 wrote:On May 23 2011 23:24 Conquest101 wrote:
Hoh boy, it's been a long time since I've posted.
I find myself wanting to defend the Starks as well. Robb's "mistake" was being too honorable if anything. While grief-stricken over his brothers' deaths, he slept with Jeyne Westerling, who was taking care of him (IIRC he got wounded by a crossbow when taking the Crag). Instead of going "oh hey, thanks for that, peace out", he chose to do the "honorable" thing and marry her. That, of course, led to the whole downward spiral culminating in the Red Wedding.
And you can't really say that anything Sansa or Arya did was evil. Misguided, sure, but not evil.
Also, speaking of Arya, she'd better not be permanently blind, or I'm going to rage. They are not evil, they merely commited evil acts. This goes for for some of the lannisters too. Jaime doesnt push Bran out the window because he's evil he does it for "love". Its really no different then arya killing a young guard so she can escape. The only evil people, are guys like gregor clegane who commit evil acts solelyy for amusement or pleasure I'm curious to know what explanation you will have to explain how Cersei act with Lancel, how she act with Qyburn or how Tywin act with Shae and the previous lover of Tyrion. Im not arguing that all the lannisters are good, just like not all starks are. Tywin is probably evil, ill give you that, but cersei is borderline. The only person that loves her is the one person she cant be with, thats gotta be frustrating. Couple that with being a strong willed woman in a male dominated society and you start to pity her
Then tell me which Starks are bad ? Every time they killed it wasto survive/ for revenge / for power.
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On May 24 2011 00:54 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 00:40 1Eris1 wrote:On May 24 2011 00:30 WhiteDog wrote:On May 24 2011 00:24 1Eris1 wrote:On May 23 2011 23:24 Conquest101 wrote:
Hoh boy, it's been a long time since I've posted.
I find myself wanting to defend the Starks as well. Robb's "mistake" was being too honorable if anything. While grief-stricken over his brothers' deaths, he slept with Jeyne Westerling, who was taking care of him (IIRC he got wounded by a crossbow when taking the Crag). Instead of going "oh hey, thanks for that, peace out", he chose to do the "honorable" thing and marry her. That, of course, led to the whole downward spiral culminating in the Red Wedding.
And you can't really say that anything Sansa or Arya did was evil. Misguided, sure, but not evil.
Also, speaking of Arya, she'd better not be permanently blind, or I'm going to rage. They are not evil, they merely commited evil acts. This goes for for some of the lannisters too. Jaime doesnt push Bran out the window because he's evil he does it for "love". Its really no different then arya killing a young guard so she can escape. The only evil people, are guys like gregor clegane who commit evil acts solelyy for amusement or pleasure I'm curious to know what explanation you will have to explain how Cersei act with Lancel, how she act with Qyburn or how Tywin act with Shae and the previous lover of Tyrion. Im not arguing that all the lannisters are good, just like not all starks are. Tywin is probably evil, ill give you that, but cersei is borderline. The only person that loves her is the one person she cant be with, thats gotta be frustrating. Couple that with being a strong willed woman in a male dominated society and you start to pity her Then tell me which Starks are bad ? Every time they killed it wasto survive/ for revenge / for power.
and the Lannisters??
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On May 24 2011 00:54 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 00:40 1Eris1 wrote:On May 24 2011 00:30 WhiteDog wrote:On May 24 2011 00:24 1Eris1 wrote:On May 23 2011 23:24 Conquest101 wrote:
Hoh boy, it's been a long time since I've posted.
I find myself wanting to defend the Starks as well. Robb's "mistake" was being too honorable if anything. While grief-stricken over his brothers' deaths, he slept with Jeyne Westerling, who was taking care of him (IIRC he got wounded by a crossbow when taking the Crag). Instead of going "oh hey, thanks for that, peace out", he chose to do the "honorable" thing and marry her. That, of course, led to the whole downward spiral culminating in the Red Wedding.
And you can't really say that anything Sansa or Arya did was evil. Misguided, sure, but not evil.
Also, speaking of Arya, she'd better not be permanently blind, or I'm going to rage. They are not evil, they merely commited evil acts. This goes for for some of the lannisters too. Jaime doesnt push Bran out the window because he's evil he does it for "love". Its really no different then arya killing a young guard so she can escape. The only evil people, are guys like gregor clegane who commit evil acts solelyy for amusement or pleasure I'm curious to know what explanation you will have to explain how Cersei act with Lancel, how she act with Qyburn or how Tywin act with Shae and the previous lover of Tyrion. Im not arguing that all the lannisters are good, just like not all starks are. Tywin is probably evil, ill give you that, but cersei is borderline. The only person that loves her is the one person she cant be with, thats gotta be frustrating. Couple that with being a strong willed woman in a male dominated society and you start to pity her Then tell me which Starks are bad ? Every time they killed it wasto survive/ for revenge / for power.
and the lannisters are different?
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On May 24 2011 00:40 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 00:30 WhiteDog wrote:On May 24 2011 00:24 1Eris1 wrote:On May 23 2011 23:24 Conquest101 wrote:
Hoh boy, it's been a long time since I've posted.
I find myself wanting to defend the Starks as well. Robb's "mistake" was being too honorable if anything. While grief-stricken over his brothers' deaths, he slept with Jeyne Westerling, who was taking care of him (IIRC he got wounded by a crossbow when taking the Crag). Instead of going "oh hey, thanks for that, peace out", he chose to do the "honorable" thing and marry her. That, of course, led to the whole downward spiral culminating in the Red Wedding.
And you can't really say that anything Sansa or Arya did was evil. Misguided, sure, but not evil.
Also, speaking of Arya, she'd better not be permanently blind, or I'm going to rage. They are not evil, they merely commited evil acts. This goes for for some of the lannisters too. Jaime doesnt push Bran out the window because he's evil he does it for "love". Its really no different then arya killing a young guard so she can escape. The only evil people, are guys like gregor clegane who commit evil acts solelyy for amusement or pleasure I'm curious to know what explanation you will have to explain how Cersei act with Lancel, how she act with Qyburn or how Tywin act with Shae and the previous lover of Tyrion. Im not arguing that all the lannisters are good, just like not all starks are. Tywin is probably evil, ill give you that, but cersei is borderline. The only person that loves her is the one person she cant be with, thats gotta be frustrating. Couple that with being a strong willed woman in a male dominated society and you start to pity her
I don't pity someone for being strong willed (even if it is in a 'male dominated society'). That does not even make sense.
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On May 24 2011 00:57 Skilledblob wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 00:54 WhiteDog wrote:On May 24 2011 00:40 1Eris1 wrote:On May 24 2011 00:30 WhiteDog wrote:On May 24 2011 00:24 1Eris1 wrote:On May 23 2011 23:24 Conquest101 wrote:
Hoh boy, it's been a long time since I've posted.
I find myself wanting to defend the Starks as well. Robb's "mistake" was being too honorable if anything. While grief-stricken over his brothers' deaths, he slept with Jeyne Westerling, who was taking care of him (IIRC he got wounded by a crossbow when taking the Crag). Instead of going "oh hey, thanks for that, peace out", he chose to do the "honorable" thing and marry her. That, of course, led to the whole downward spiral culminating in the Red Wedding.
And you can't really say that anything Sansa or Arya did was evil. Misguided, sure, but not evil.
Also, speaking of Arya, she'd better not be permanently blind, or I'm going to rage. They are not evil, they merely commited evil acts. This goes for for some of the lannisters too. Jaime doesnt push Bran out the window because he's evil he does it for "love". Its really no different then arya killing a young guard so she can escape. The only evil people, are guys like gregor clegane who commit evil acts solelyy for amusement or pleasure I'm curious to know what explanation you will have to explain how Cersei act with Lancel, how she act with Qyburn or how Tywin act with Shae and the previous lover of Tyrion. Im not arguing that all the lannisters are good, just like not all starks are. Tywin is probably evil, ill give you that, but cersei is borderline. The only person that loves her is the one person she cant be with, thats gotta be frustrating. Couple that with being a strong willed woman in a male dominated society and you start to pity her Then tell me which Starks are bad ? Every time they killed it wasto survive/ for revenge / for power. and the lannisters are different?
So murdering the whore of Tyrion is for survive revenge or power ?
Killing a bunch of Night Guards is for power ?
Using Lancel as a sexual substitution while Jaime is away, while having the intention to kill him as soon as Jaime come back is certainely to survive...
Come on... Don't you see any difference ?
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When syrio talked about there only being one god and it being death did anyone else think he might be a faceless one?
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I thought that he sounded like a faceless one there.
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There's been serious speculation that Jaqen H'gar and Syrio are the same person, but I'm not sure I buy that.
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Yea Apparently Jaqen was in the dungeons when syrio was training her but with his skills i think he could have slipped away
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On May 24 2011 02:44 Jyvblamo wrote:
There's been serious speculation that Jaqen H'gar and Syrio are the same person, but I'm not sure I buy that.
I think that Jaqen was already in the dark cells when Syrio was there.
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