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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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une_certaine_verve
Profile Joined May 2012
342 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 12:00:00
April 16 2013 11:58 GMT
#5261
On April 16 2013 20:11 OminouS wrote:
What I dislike the most about Emilia's acting is that she never moves her eyebrows, and anyone who has seen an interview with Clarke knows that those eyebrows have their own life. It's like she can't control them if she starts to move them, so to compensate she doesn't move them at all. Makes her facial expression really dull, almost as bad as Kristen Stewart. Stone face...

This is hilarious insight. Nice.

Edmure was definitely my favourite bit of the last episode. The Ramsey reveal is going to be one of thew season's highlight, I think.
armada[sb]
Profile Joined August 2011
United States432 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 12:26:18
April 16 2013 12:25 GMT
#5262
EDIT: Derp, nevermind.
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Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
April 16 2013 13:50 GMT
#5263
On April 16 2013 09:25 happyness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 09:14 antelope591 wrote:
On April 16 2013 08:47 Irrelevant Label wrote:
On April 16 2013 08:31 zatic wrote:
On April 15 2013 14:35 Irrelevant Label wrote:
The politics behind Bolton's betrayal are ruined by having one of his men take Jaime's hand. It is the kind of mistake they can ignore and the show watchers will not notice I suppose. Scapegoating...and here I was avoiding puns from now on... Hoat was key to Bolton keeping his head. They are going to have him do the same despite the man in question being one of his own, something Tywin should never accept.

They can still fix it enough in the context of the show by having Bolton punish Hoat/Locke for cutting Jaime. Not a great adaptation but good enough for the show I think.


We've settled for worse elsewhere, so yep.



I'm curious about why some book readers seem to be disliking Dany more this season. I've actually felt a bit "told you so" about her suddenly maturing into something much more like her book incarnation despite the massive blunders of season two. Things like the dumb comment on "we are not men" are actually the kind of thing book Dany might do, so as movie-Eowyn cringeworthy as it is I have to give it a pass. The loss in that arc so far was the Barristan reveal, but that doesn't impact Dany's character.

I'm a bad judge of acting. That said, I have an ok sense of when they are doing very well at least. I appreciate the work of Dance, Dinklage and those types. I know Clarke isn't in that category. It is the 'ok' vs. bad that I can't really tell apart. Maybe Clarke is doing poorly rather than ok, but at least the writing does not seem to be ruining her so much anymore.


My complaint with her is just that the actress playing her is not a great actress imo. Shes not believable when she tries to show emotion especially anger. This is opposed to someone like Stannis where the actor playing him is a good actor but the character is just written badly as opposed to his book counterpart. In the case of Dany its an issue of acting not writing for me


I feel like she did well in season 1, probably because she is better at acting vulnerable than angry/determined. I still don't think she's bad though, and feel the writing was poor throughout season 2 for her entire storyline.

The acting that has been starting to bug me is Jorah Mormont. At first I really liked him but now it seems like whenever he speaks he uses the exact same voice inflections. The same goes for Littlefinger.


Actually I quite agree with you on jorah. I started this post disagreeing with you but then changed my mind and rewrote it
I was expecting the rhaegar line quite a lot, and he didn't deliver it in the same way I perceived it in the books. For some reason taht was one of the most awesome lines in the books for me.
Telenil
Profile Joined September 2010
France484 Posts
April 16 2013 14:21 GMT
#5264
You know, I so would like book-readers to film their non-book friends when the Red Wedding happens. The expression of utter shock and disbelief is going to be priceless. I'll try to watch the episode with non-bookers just to see their faces.
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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
April 16 2013 14:29 GMT
#5265
I am actually planning to do that. I just don't know how I would hide a camera. That stupid red light every camera has is just a giveaway.

Any way one can shut off the Macbook green light that turns on when the front camera is on?
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KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
April 16 2013 14:30 GMT
#5266
Sadly I have no non-book friends around me, I guess reading the other thread will have to suffice for entertainment.
Also moderating spoiling idiots
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
Iranon
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States983 Posts
April 16 2013 14:42 GMT
#5267
On April 16 2013 17:03 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 16:49 n0ise wrote:
- Really enjoyed Edmure, and as far as Rome cast goes, I think he does a far better job than Caesar as Mance does.

- Sam fat-jokes are driving every plot point and being omnipresent. Dunno whose bright idea that was.

- They're playing Ramsay/Theon awesomely, the drop is gonna be massssive.

- Ending + song were hi-larious.

Nah, i think that song was bad. Or at least really not fitting. At all. Not funny, not grotesque, nothing, just out of place.

Agree. I loved the BWB singing it in the woods, but the rock version at the credits was just strange, in a bad way.
Dismay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1180 Posts
April 16 2013 14:55 GMT
#5268
On April 16 2013 23:21 Telenil wrote:
You know, I so would like book-readers to film their non-book friends when the Red Wedding happens. The expression of utter shock and disbelief is going to be priceless. I'll try to watch the episode with non-bookers just to see their faces.


This is the entire reason I'm watching the show. It's going to be worse than Ned.
In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 14:56:11
April 16 2013 14:56 GMT
#5269
On April 16 2013 23:29 zatic wrote:
I am actually planning to do that. I just don't know how I would hide a camera. That stupid red light every camera has is just a giveaway.

Any way one can shut off the Macbook green light that turns on when the front camera is on?


stick something over the light
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
April 16 2013 15:07 GMT
#5270
On April 16 2013 23:42 Iranon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 17:03 Geo.Rion wrote:
On April 16 2013 16:49 n0ise wrote:
- Really enjoyed Edmure, and as far as Rome cast goes, I think he does a far better job than Caesar as Mance does.

- Sam fat-jokes are driving every plot point and being omnipresent. Dunno whose bright idea that was.

- They're playing Ramsay/Theon awesomely, the drop is gonna be massssive.

- Ending + song were hi-larious.

Nah, i think that song was bad. Or at least really not fitting. At all. Not funny, not grotesque, nothing, just out of place.

Agree. I loved the BWB singing it in the woods, but the rock version at the credits was just strange, in a bad way.

I think the song just wasn't effective for us book readers. We knew exactly what would happen, and we were looking forward to it, and then it happened, and a second later there was loud music. Huh.

Now, for the non-book reader.. The ending itself was absolutely shocking and came out of nowhere. And just seconds later, before the shock even really registered, they were treated with another WTF moment in form of a totally unfitting song, yanking them back to reality. And that's just what was supposed to happen.

Me, I absolutely loved it. Though the ending is only #2 in my list of totally-inappropriate-yet-awesome-ending-songs. #1 goes to an episode of True Blood from the last season.
FezTheCaliph
Profile Joined February 2010
United States492 Posts
April 16 2013 17:41 GMT
#5271
On April 17 2013 00:07 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 23:42 Iranon wrote:
On April 16 2013 17:03 Geo.Rion wrote:
On April 16 2013 16:49 n0ise wrote:
- Really enjoyed Edmure, and as far as Rome cast goes, I think he does a far better job than Caesar as Mance does.

- Sam fat-jokes are driving every plot point and being omnipresent. Dunno whose bright idea that was.

- They're playing Ramsay/Theon awesomely, the drop is gonna be massssive.

- Ending + song were hi-larious.

Nah, i think that song was bad. Or at least really not fitting. At all. Not funny, not grotesque, nothing, just out of place.

Agree. I loved the BWB singing it in the woods, but the rock version at the credits was just strange, in a bad way.

I think the song just wasn't effective for us book readers. We knew exactly what would happen, and we were looking forward to it, and then it happened, and a second later there was loud music. Huh.

Now, for the non-book reader.. The ending itself was absolutely shocking and came out of nowhere. And just seconds later, before the shock even really registered, they were treated with another WTF moment in form of a totally unfitting song, yanking them back to reality. And that's just what was supposed to happen.

Me, I absolutely loved it. Though the ending is only #2 in my list of totally-inappropriate-yet-awesome-ending-songs. #1 goes to an episode of True Blood from the last season.


Idk, I watched the show with a couple other book readers and we thought it was hilarious. We knew what was coming with Jamie, but at first we couldn't tell what the song was. It was so sudden too.

Also the whole, fetch me a carving knife and putting him on a stump. A literal stump. That dramatic irony, it was so good
It is better to be on hand with ten men then absent with ten thousand
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1964 Posts
April 16 2013 20:33 GMT
#5272
Ok, episode was awesome. When the final scene came, i thought, wait a moment, we are just like 30 miknutes in. Why is Jaime getting his hand cut off?
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
April 16 2013 21:00 GMT
#5273
On April 17 2013 02:41 FezTheCaliph wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 00:07 Conti wrote:
On April 16 2013 23:42 Iranon wrote:
On April 16 2013 17:03 Geo.Rion wrote:
On April 16 2013 16:49 n0ise wrote:
- Really enjoyed Edmure, and as far as Rome cast goes, I think he does a far better job than Caesar as Mance does.

- Sam fat-jokes are driving every plot point and being omnipresent. Dunno whose bright idea that was.

- They're playing Ramsay/Theon awesomely, the drop is gonna be massssive.

- Ending + song were hi-larious.

Nah, i think that song was bad. Or at least really not fitting. At all. Not funny, not grotesque, nothing, just out of place.

Agree. I loved the BWB singing it in the woods, but the rock version at the credits was just strange, in a bad way.

I think the song just wasn't effective for us book readers. We knew exactly what would happen, and we were looking forward to it, and then it happened, and a second later there was loud music. Huh.

Now, for the non-book reader.. The ending itself was absolutely shocking and came out of nowhere. And just seconds later, before the shock even really registered, they were treated with another WTF moment in form of a totally unfitting song, yanking them back to reality. And that's just what was supposed to happen.

Me, I absolutely loved it. Though the ending is only #2 in my list of totally-inappropriate-yet-awesome-ending-songs. #1 goes to an episode of True Blood from the last season.


Idk, I watched the show with a couple other book readers and we thought it was hilarious. We knew what was coming with Jamie, but at first we couldn't tell what the song was. It was so sudden too.

Also the whole, fetch me a carving knife and putting him on a stump. A literal stump. That dramatic irony, it was so good


That was funny as hell in both the books and the movies to me. Jaime Lannister expecting the Goat to treat him according to his station and threatening him with his father. Then hey no more sword hand for Westeros' Biggest Dick. He's treated like no more than a lowborn prisoner who has the luck to have some worth to his captors. He deserved the irony.
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
Jalle
Profile Joined July 2008
Sweden149 Posts
April 16 2013 21:09 GMT
#5274
On April 16 2013 23:21 Telenil wrote:
You know, I so would like book-readers to film their non-book friends when the Red Wedding happens. The expression of utter shock and disbelief is going to be priceless. I'll try to watch the episode with non-bookers just to see their faces.


Also contrast that with what the reactions to Joffrey's wedding will be :D. I know I'm going to enjoy it.
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
April 16 2013 21:13 GMT
#5275
On April 16 2013 23:55 Dismay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 23:21 Telenil wrote:
You know, I so would like book-readers to film their non-book friends when the Red Wedding happens. The expression of utter shock and disbelief is going to be priceless. I'll try to watch the episode with non-bookers just to see their faces.


This is the entire reason I'm watching the show. It's going to be worse than Ned.

I'm looking forward to Joffreys death :D
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Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
April 16 2013 21:17 GMT
#5276
They're handling this season much better than the last one. Could be simply because book 2 was too big to fit in a season.

I'll just have to pretend S2 doesn't exist.

As for adding some content as well as opinion, is Brutus from Rome supposed to be Edmure? I'll forgive them because it's a good way to develop a character for a strong actor but he really is nothing like the book?

Worst case scenario is that they keep Robb's wife around after his death, terrible actress, lazily written crap character, obviously not as horrid as "Roz" but comes pretty close.
armada[sb]
Profile Joined August 2011
United States432 Posts
April 16 2013 21:26 GMT
#5277
I don't get how Edmure isn't like he is in the books, we've seen all of about three minutes of him, and he is prideful and short-sighted that we've seen thus far.
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Serek
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom459 Posts
April 16 2013 21:34 GMT
#5278
Yeah, Edmure has behaved pretty much like in the books so far...

I thought the Blackfish was pretty awesome too. I look forward to his return in the books
AstroPegnuin
Profile Joined November 2012
293 Posts
April 16 2013 21:37 GMT
#5279
Gonna be pretty crazy when they start singing the Rains of Castamere at the wedding, wonder if the non book readers will pick up that somethings about to go down :D
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
April 16 2013 22:18 GMT
#5280
On April 16 2013 23:42 Iranon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 17:03 Geo.Rion wrote:
On April 16 2013 16:49 n0ise wrote:
- Really enjoyed Edmure, and as far as Rome cast goes, I think he does a far better job than Caesar as Mance does.

- Sam fat-jokes are driving every plot point and being omnipresent. Dunno whose bright idea that was.

- They're playing Ramsay/Theon awesomely, the drop is gonna be massssive.

- Ending + song were hi-larious.

Nah, i think that song was bad. Or at least really not fitting. At all. Not funny, not grotesque, nothing, just out of place.

Agree. I loved the BWB singing it in the woods, but the rock version at the credits was just strange, in a bad way.


That wasn't the BWB, it was Locke's group
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