EPTOn that note, though, what was the reason for changing the Unsullied thing about spikes? It seems like all it does is kind of mildly annoy people who've read the books. I mean, even if it doesn't make the story any worse, isn't it a good idea to be as faithful to the books as possible while still keeping in mind its a TV show?
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marttorn
Norway5211 Posts
On that note, though, what was the reason for changing the Unsullied thing about spikes? It seems like all it does is kind of mildly annoy people who've read the books. I mean, even if it doesn't make the story any worse, isn't it a good idea to be as faithful to the books as possible while still keeping in mind its a TV show? | ||
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
Strong Belwas was sort of expendable, I guess, but he had a lot of interesting culture to him. His first duel is one of the more entertaining fights to read. I guess the show figures it's giving you enough of that sort of culture just by introducing the Unsullied. It is a shame they don't let Khaleesi speak back to the slaver, but maybe they work it in later, when she acquires them. Looking forward to her storyline a lot actually. Introducing Barristan at the end of the ep was an awesome touch. | ||
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
This is the passage about them getting caught as kids by their mother's maid: "...Jaime did not recall just what they had been doing, but whatever it was had horrified Lady Johanna. She'd sent the maid away, moved Jaime's bedchamber to the other side of Casterly Rock, set a guard outside Cersei's, and told them that they must never do that again or she would have no choice but to tell their lord father. They need not have feared though. It was not long after that she died birthing Tyrion." There is also the scene where Tyrion asks Cersei about who killed Jon Arryn: "Im sure I don't know. That fool Edard Stark accused me of the same thing. He hinted that Lord Arryn suspected or... well believed..." "That you were fucking our sweet Jaime?" She slapped him. "Did you think I was as blind as Father?" I'm sure Tywin heard the rumors, but there is no evidence to suggest he ever believed them, and Jaime and Cersei certainly feared him finding out. | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8760 Posts
On April 02 2013 03:46 fabiano wrote: The scribe should be like 10 years old. No Belwas makes me sad Indeed. In fact the excellent Selmy storyline :-/ | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On April 02 2013 04:37 karazax wrote: Tywin saw what he wanted to see when it came to his children. He considers Jaime his heir to Casterly Rock, despite knowing Jaime can't hold land. He doesn't recognize Tyrion's intelligence or capabilities. When Tywin's sister Genna told him Tyrion was the son who most resembled him, Tywin didn't speak to her for months - he didn't like his world view being challenged. This is the passage about them getting caught as kids by their mother's maid: "...Jaime did not recall just what they had been doing, but whatever it was had horrified Lady Johanna. She'd sent the maid away, moved Jaime's bedchamber to the other side of Casterly Rock, set a guard outside Cersei's, and told them that they must never do that again or she would have no choice but to tell their lord father. They need not have feared though. It was not long after that she died birthing Tyrion." There is also the scene where Tyrion asks Cersei about who killed Jon Arryn: "Im sure I don't know. That fool Edard Stark accused me of the same thing. He hinted that Lord Arryn suspected or... well believed..." "That you were fucking our sweet Jaime?" She slapped him. "Did you think I was as blind as Father?" I'm sure Tywin heard the rumors, but there is no evidence to suggest he ever believed them, and Jaime and Cersei certainly feared him finding out. Yep, and there was another line from Tywinn something like " I didnt make war on Winterfell and Riverrun to sit Robert Baratheon the 2nd on the Throne".- referring to joeffery. Not conclusive, but adds to the list. Plus slender was and is a political tool, so yes, he surely read Stannis' letter, but if he didnt already know, he could easily diregard it as an obvious tactical move from Stannis On April 02 2013 03:46 fabiano wrote: The scribe should be like 10 years old. No Belwas makes me sad by scribe you mean Missandei? I dunno man, i'm kinda fine with making a hottie woman out of a child. Im a shallow person, i know | ||
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feanor1
United States1899 Posts
Season 3 Premiere Ratings are the shows Biggest yet | ||
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
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RvB
Netherlands6303 Posts
On April 02 2013 04:08 Leporello wrote: I like the actor who plays Mance. He was a good Caeser in the "Rome" series. He might not be as purely charismatic as the bard-figure in the books, but more important is he seemed like a cunning sort of person. Strong Belwas was sort of expendable, I guess, but he had a lot of interesting culture to him. His first duel is one of the more entertaining fights to read. I guess the show figures it's giving you enough of that sort of culture just by introducing the Unsullied. It is a shame they don't let Khaleesi speak back to the slaver, but maybe they work it in later, when she acquires them. Looking forward to her storyline a lot actually. Introducing Barristan at the end of the ep was an awesome touch. I couldn't think of him as Mance at all, the image of Ceasar just stuck in my head all the time >.<. | ||
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sc2holar
Sweden1637 Posts
On April 02 2013 05:05 karazax wrote: At this point it would take a major disaster of a season for the show to get cancelled. Despite the changes that many book readers take exception with, most of the non-readers seem to love the show, so they are at least doing something right in that respect. it has been brought up before that HBO is already discussing how they are going to handle the day when the TV-series catches up with the books. i would be surprised if the final book was released in ten years, something like 2025 feels more realistic... but even if im just being a bit pessimistic, by the time the last book is out the show has probably been off the air for years and all actors outgrown their parts, wich is why HBO is discussing if/when to cancel | ||
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sc2holar
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Thorakh
Netherlands1788 Posts
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On April 02 2013 06:04 sc2holar wrote: it has been brought up before that HBO is already discussing how they are going to handle the day when the TV-series catches up with the books. i would be surprised if the final book was released in ten years, something like 2025 feels more realistic... but even if im just being a bit pessimistic, by the time the last book is out the show has probably been off the air for years and all actors outgrown their parts, wich is why HBO is discussing if/when to cancel The show's creators already know how the books will end, and they keep poking GRRM for more details. The worst case would be that the show will finish before the books, and we will end up knowing as much about the last season(s) as much as the guys in the other threads. I don't really see the show being cancelled, ever. Postponed for a year, perhaps, but nothing more. The most interesting question is how many seasons it'll take. 7 seasons is typical for a show, but that's not nearly enough here. 10, perhaps? | ||
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jxx
Brazil307 Posts
On April 02 2013 06:17 sc2holar wrote: Did Hoat cut off Jamies hand on the orders of Roose Bolton in the books? i dont remember, maybe it was never stated, but i think it is sort of a plot hole if Roose plans to conspire with the lannisters and starts off this plan by mutilating tywins eldest son. I think that would make Tywin eager to whipe out the Boltons before anyone else, including the starks. i think it would actually be a positive change if someone like Karstark or even Robb did it to send a message to the Lannisters, and then when the Starks march forward and puts Roose in charge of holding Harrenhall, he frees Jamie and begins the scheming. IIRC it was a fat dothraki named Zollo (part of Hoat's companions) who cut his hand. He did it to send a message to Tywin. Roose then frees Jamie as a sign of good faith and to show he had no part whatsoever in that. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On April 02 2013 06:54 jxx wrote: IIRC it was a fat dothraki named Zollo (part of Hoat's companions) who cut his hand. He did it to send a message to Tywin. Roose then frees Jamie as a sign of good faith and to show he had no part whatsoever in that. Yeah, Hoat was with the Boltons at that point, when they were still with Robb. Roose going over to the other side and Jaime arriving at Harrenhall were about the same time. | ||
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MicroTastiC
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sc2holar
Sweden1637 Posts
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Irrelevant Label
United States596 Posts
On April 01 2013 21:21 Butcherski wrote: From the no spoilers thread. Troll or ? :D Love having GoT back, even if they change some stuff its still awesome. Aww, come now. Re-read the book and bold the entire sentence. The 'firm grasp of the situation' part is the better half I think. Onto other topics, Missandei had to be older because she is supposed to be only a year or two younger than Dany and there isn't much of a chance in hell HBO would not run with a lesbian scene that the source material provides itself. Someone said that Barristan being revealed right away had to happen and I'd like the know the reasoning because I haven't put it together myself yet. In the books the reader knew it was him well ahead of Dany and all was good. It throws her falling out with Jorah into uncertainty because it simply can't happen the same way it did in the books now. What is Barristan going to do, randomly sit on that knowledge for most of a season then drop it? That makes no sense. Robb cutting off Jaime's hand...well that's...huh... I don't see it because how would Jaime get away again if he gets into Robb's hands again? That seems to rely on Robb deciding to trust Bolton with him and leaving them at Harrenhall. That could all lead into the book version pretty well except that it would also lead to Bolton not being at the RW, which seems to be a deal breaker. | ||
zatic
Zurich15366 Posts
I am very very satisfied how the episode turned out. Biggest bummer was probably that the battle at the Fist wasn't shown at all and suddenly there is just 20 rangers left. Oh well, budget and all. Both the Tywin-Tyrion and the Cersei-Margery interactions easily make up for everything. Soooo so good. | ||
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
Book into show spoilers is completely fine. Show into book spoilers is not. | ||
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