[TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion - Page 241

Disregarding the show vs book complaints, and looking at the show as if it were its own material, I still don't think the TV show is very good. I enjoyed season 1 quite a bit, but season 2 felt weak to me, and the season 3 premiere gave me reasons to be worried.

At its best moments, the TV series is amazing. But at other times, I find it cringe-worthy. It is very inconsistent in its quality.

So when someone tells me to just detach myself from the books, and enjoy the show as it is, I find that difficult because the TV show is not consistently good.

Obviously, there are some really good scenes. Everyone has been praising the Tywin and Tyrion scene, and I completely agree. Two great actors are given a great script and they nail it. You cannot ask for much more.

At the end of season 2, when Maester Luwin is talking to Theon, I love that. The conversation is believable, and Theon does a good job of portraying the fear and anger towards the situation he is in.

But then, also near the end of season 2, Varys visits Ros in one of Littlefinger's brother, and offers her a chance to serve him instead of littlefinger. Wtf? Is Varys really that stupid? He is in LF's brothel. Basically LF's fucking headquarters, according to the show. Am I missing something? Maybe I am, honestly I don't know. I feel like I must be. Why would he approach Ros there? And why so openly? Does he seriously expect that conversation to go unheard. Hasn't LF mentioned before how he loves to spy on people and glean information in his brothel's? To me it just comes off as some stupid scene the tv writers came up with to help build the already overdone character of Ros.

Also, Cersei thinks that Ros is Tyrion's favorite whore. Yet in the show, Ros is in charge of much of LF's business, and Ros can be seen openly walking through the city with LF. So, like, what? Do Cersei's spies not notice that? and does that not somehow contradict the fact that Ros is supposed to be Tyrion's special whore? After the big deal Cersei made about Ros being Tyrion's whore in the show, I would have to assume she would have a spy or two keep tabs on Ros in hopes of learning something about Tyrion. And those spies would have to notice how important of a role Ros plays in littlefinger's business. Does that not arouse some kind of misguided suspicion? And I would hope littlefinger would know all the trouble that Ros went through at Cersei's hand. That's a big fucking red flag to stay far away from Ros at that point. Especially for a man as calculating as littlefinger. So why does he still use her in such an important role, ie in s3 when Ros and LF travel to the dock to talk to Sansa. Why would LF take that risk of being associated with someone who obviously has Cersei's eyes on her?

Season 2 again, when Grenn, Sam and Edd are digging there trench through the snow. And luckily. Fucking luckily, the path they're digging their trench happens to pass right over Benjen's stash of dragonglass knives. I feel like I'm watching the mummy 5 return of the stupid lazy shit. I hate when shows or movie use the random convenience move to be lazy in their story writing. What if the trench they had been digging had passed five feet to the right, or five feet to the left? Guess we don't discover the dragonglass then. What bugs me most is that their seems to be a simple fix. Apparently, Ghost is still hanging around the Night's Watch instead of lurking around Jon, as we see in the opening of s3. So why don't they let Ghost discover the burried dragonglass, like Dog's with their noses often do?

Then, the end of Season 2. Cheesy as fuck. Here's an example of a tv show making their characters perform non-logical decision making, in order to create an imminent danger cliffhanger cliche. Why do Grenn and Edd leave Sam behind? Why is Sam incapable of running to the defenses? Why does Sam hide behind a rock? Why do the wights ignore Sam? Why does the Whitewalker not attack Sam instantly? Why does Sam not die then and there surrounded by enemies, like any other normal person would? Why?

On to season 3. I like Bronn. His character is fun. But why, exactly, does he try and pick a fight with two kingsgaurd? With a knife? Can he not wait ten minutes for the queen to finish her business with Tyrion? Is ten minutes really worth dying for? I think not. Bronn character is driven by the fact that he is a gritty survivor. Survivors don't pick fights with two heavily armed gaurds, known for being some of the best swordsman on the continent. Survivors don't use a knife in a sword fight. Survivors don't put their lives on the line for something so trivial. Literally, he was on the verge of attacking two kingsgaurd with a knife. If Cersei had not walked out at that exact moment, I have a hard time imagining Bronn still alive. And if he was alive, he would be fucked for attacking two kingsgaurd

The end of the s3 premiere was silly as well. Evil little girl hisses menacingly. Jumps over edge. Disappears. Where did she go? Omg! She got way over there somehow. How did she get there so fast? Felt like a scene from some stupid horror movie.

Anyways, you can say i'm just nit picking scenes, but the problem is these type of dumb scenes are occurring more and more often.

The show is a roller coaster of quality. Many of the scenes are brilliant, but many are terribly contrived.

To be honest, if the show was not based off the book series, I'm not sure if I would still be watching it at this point. Its not a bad show, but its not a good show anymore. It has great moments. But looking at it as a whole, I have a hard time calling it good, because it has too many bad scenes.

Edit: Obviously I'm overreacting a little bit, but I just kinda needed to vent, and I want to hear your guys thoughts. I think the show is still fine, I'm just disappointed because its not as good as I want it to be