• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 22:04
CEST 04:04
KST 11:04
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview5[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13
Community News
Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double0Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !16Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results
Tourneys
$1,400 SEL Season 3 Ladder Invitational GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) $5,000 WardiTV Spring Championship 2026 Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 526 Rubber and Glue Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes
Brood War
General
vespene.gg — BW replays in browser Lights Ro.8 Review (asl s21) BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ 25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08 ASL21 General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL21] Semifinals B [BSL22] RO8 Bracket Stage + Another TieBreaker [ASL21] Ro8 Day 4 Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne ZeroSpace Megathread War of Dots, 2026 minimalst RTS Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread YouTube Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1645 users

[TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion - Page 217

Forum Index > Media & Entertainment
Post a Reply
Prev 1 215 216 217 218 219 724 Next
SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
Click Here for the spoiler-free thread.
aloT
Profile Joined April 2010
England1042 Posts
January 30 2013 12:19 GMT
#4321
Martin will live to finish the series. He looks utterly rejuvenated from what I've seen of him since the TV show began.
teapot
Profile Joined October 2007
United Kingdom266 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-30 12:44:57
January 30 2013 12:20 GMT
#4322
On January 28 2013 10:08 Blacktion wrote:
Was anyone else seriously disappointed when the red viper died?
I like the thinking behind his character, setting him up as a deus ex machina to save tyrion, so everyone expects him to win the duel, and even letting him get the uper hand in the duel, then having him die. Was pretty good story telling wise, i just get the feeling we missed the chance to see an incredible amount of interesting stuff, both past and future, from one of the most baller characters in the world.


Oh well, at least The Mountain died in agony, off-screen (allegedly).

Oberyn was cool. But that is one of Martin's tricks in his presentation of "gritty realism".

Got a hero about to reign triumphantly? Get some sneak to hamstring him and then stamp on his face.

Got a pretty girl? Rape her, cut her, knock out some teeth.

It is because of this unrelenting unpleasantness running through ASOIAF that I do not like it all that much.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
February 05 2013 16:20 GMT
#4323
http://fearofaghostplanet.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Game-of-Thrones-2-590x331.jpg

Saw this picture, and it depressed the hell out of me.

I don't know if I want to watch the third season just to relive that moment all over again.
Writer@WriterYamato
Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
February 06 2013 00:10 GMT
#4324
On February 06 2013 01:20 yamato77 wrote:
http://fearofaghostplanet.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Game-of-Thrones-2-590x331.jpg

Saw this picture, and it depressed the hell out of me.

I don't know if I want to watch the third season just to relive that moment all over again.


Either I don't follow or you mean Rob. That is Jon and Ghost.
Ario
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada73 Posts
February 06 2013 00:27 GMT
#4325
For a second I thought that was Robb and Grey Wind too. It's actually kind of weird they would use a picture of Jon sitting the Iron Throne, seeing as there's no connection there at all for people who only watch the show.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
February 06 2013 00:28 GMT
#4326
On February 06 2013 09:10 Irrelevant Label wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 01:20 yamato77 wrote:
http://fearofaghostplanet.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Game-of-Thrones-2-590x331.jpg

Saw this picture, and it depressed the hell out of me.

I don't know if I want to watch the third season just to relive that moment all over again.


Either I don't follow or you mean Rob. That is Jon and Ghost.

Holy shit, you're right!

Now I can be happy about the picture instead of sad, haha.
Writer@WriterYamato
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
February 06 2013 22:58 GMT
#4327
An interesting observation I've found from snooping around the Internet about how the great houses of Westeros mirror that of Europe.

Stark: Ireland
Lannisters: England
Greyjoy: Vikings
Baratheon: Holy Roman Empire
Tyrell: France
Arryn: Switzerland
Dorne: Spain
Targaryen: Rome
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
HardlyNever
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1258 Posts
February 06 2013 23:03 GMT
#4328
On January 28 2013 10:08 Blacktion wrote:
Was anyone else seriously disappointed when the red viper died?
I like the thinking behind his character, setting him up as a deus ex machina to save tyrion, so everyone expects him to win the duel, and even letting him get the uper hand in the duel, then having him die. Was pretty good story telling wise, i just get the feeling we missed the chance to see an incredible amount of interesting stuff, both past and future, from one of the most baller characters in the world.


Yeah I was disappointed, but can't say I was surprised. Sees to almost be par for the course at this point.

It would have been nice to have known a little more about what he knew and lived. Oh well, at least there are the Sand Snakes.
Out there, the Kid learned to fend for himself. Learned to build. Learned to break.
HardlyNever
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1258 Posts
February 06 2013 23:07 GMT
#4329
On February 07 2013 07:58 PhoenixVoid wrote:
An interesting observation I've found from snooping around the Internet about how the great houses of Westeros mirror that of Europe.

Stark: Ireland
Lannisters: England
Greyjoy: Vikings
Baratheon: Holy Roman Empire
Tyrell: France
Arryn: Switzerland
Dorne: Spain
Targaryen: Rome


I don't even really know what to make of this. Aside from the obvious fact that most of those regions/periods never co-existed (There were no vikings when there was a Holy Roman Empire, there is no "Rome (unless you mean just the Vatican)" when there is a Holy Roman Empire).

I'm not really seeing the connection between the Stark house and Ireland except they are in the north... You have to paint with ridiculously broad strokes to make most of those comparisons work.
Out there, the Kid learned to fend for himself. Learned to build. Learned to break.
JumboJohnson
Profile Joined December 2011
537 Posts
February 06 2013 23:11 GMT
#4330
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 07 2013 07:58 PhoenixVoid wrote:
An interesting observation I've found from snooping around the Internet about how the great houses of Westeros mirror that of Europe.

Stark: Ireland
Lannisters: England
Greyjoy: Vikings
Baratheon: Holy Roman Empire
Tyrell: France
Arryn: Switzerland
Dorne: Spain
Targaryen: Rome



Do you happen to have a website for that that doesn't require a login?
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
February 06 2013 23:23 GMT
#4331
On February 07 2013 08:07 HardlyNever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 07:58 PhoenixVoid wrote:
An interesting observation I've found from snooping around the Internet about how the great houses of Westeros mirror that of Europe.

Stark: Ireland
Lannisters: England
Greyjoy: Vikings
Baratheon: Holy Roman Empire
Tyrell: France
Arryn: Switzerland
Dorne: Spain
Targaryen: Rome


I don't even really know what to make of this. Aside from the obvious fact that most of those regions/periods never co-existed (There were no vikings when there was a Holy Roman Empire, there is no "Rome (unless you mean just the Vatican)" when there is a Holy Roman Empire).

I'm not really seeing the connection between the Stark house and Ireland except they are in the north... You have to paint with ridiculously broad strokes to make most of those comparisons work.

Never said they had to co-exist, they just resemble each other.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
armada[sb]
Profile Joined August 2011
United States432 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-06 23:27:26
February 06 2013 23:26 GMT
#4332
On February 07 2013 07:58 PhoenixVoid wrote:
An interesting observation I've found from snooping around the Internet about how the great houses of Westeros mirror that of Europe.

Stark: Ireland
Lannisters: England
Greyjoy: Vikings
Baratheon: Holy Roman Empire
Tyrell: France
Arryn: Switzerland
Dorne: Spain
Targaryen: Rome


The wildlings are the Irish and the Starks are the Germanic people.

The Wall = Hadrian's Wall.
#Hitpoint @ GameSurge (IDLE=BAN)
HardlyNever
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1258 Posts
February 06 2013 23:41 GMT
#4333
I'm still not seeing it. How are the Targaryens anything like Rome? I just don't get it.

The closest obvious real world comparison I made was the Dothraki to the Mongols, since they are both "horse" centered cultures that raid places. Even then, the mongols tended to stay and rule when they conquered a place, while the Dothraki just seem to loot and move on.

There are a few similarities here and there; I guess I could kind of get the Iron Isles being "viking-like" because... they raid places on ships?

I don't know. Most of those comparisons make no sense to me.
Out there, the Kid learned to fend for himself. Learned to build. Learned to break.
armada[sb]
Profile Joined August 2011
United States432 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-06 23:45:50
February 06 2013 23:43 GMT
#4334
I don't agree with the way he lined his up for the most part, but I think that there are some historical inspirations for a lot of what we see in the novels. I don't think you can say any one thing is the inspiration for any of the houses/tribes/people in the novels, but you can definitely see similarities.
#Hitpoint @ GameSurge (IDLE=BAN)
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
February 06 2013 23:44 GMT
#4335
Well geographically it sure is Hadrians wall as well. Northern westeros is just England squished.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
February 07 2013 00:04 GMT
#4336
On February 07 2013 08:44 DannyJ wrote:
Well geographically it sure is Hadrians wall as well. Northern westeros is just England squished.

No way, not squished. Westeros is the size of South America, and the North is half of that, so its more like England blown up by a ton.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
February 07 2013 00:06 GMT
#4337
On February 07 2013 09:04 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 08:44 DannyJ wrote:
Well geographically it sure is Hadrians wall as well. Northern westeros is just England squished.

No way, not squished. Westeros is the size of South America, and the North is half of that, so its more like England blown up by a ton.


The shape of it is. Not the size. Similar to how southern westeros is Ireland upside down but like 30 times bigger.
Lobotomist
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1541 Posts
February 07 2013 00:26 GMT
#4338
On January 27 2013 21:47 DannyJ wrote:
I'd pay the iron price for a Stannis and Davos sitcom...
oh my god can't stop laughing.
Teching to hive too quickly isn't just a risk: it's an ultrarisk
Taru
Profile Joined October 2010
France88 Posts
February 07 2013 00:26 GMT
#4339
On February 07 2013 07:58 PhoenixVoid wrote:
An interesting observation I've found from snooping around the Internet about how the great houses of Westeros mirror that of Europe.

Stark: Ireland
Lannisters: England
Greyjoy: Vikings
Baratheon: Holy Roman Empire
Tyrell: France
Arryn: Switzerland
Dorne: Spain
Targaryen: Rome


I've got some comparisons in Essos:
For exemple, the free cities are imo a reference to the medieval free cities in northern Italy like Florence, Venice, Genoa or even Ragusa.
The cities using slavery as their main activity like Astapor, Meereen and Yunkai are a reference to north african cities like Alger and Tunis which where known for their slave trading, especially european ones.
The dothraki are the mongols obviously.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
February 07 2013 00:44 GMT
#4340
In case anyone is wondering about the Targaryen=Rome comparison, it is because both were the rulers of their continent (Westeros and Europe), but eventually lost control due to rebellion (Barbarian attacks and the Baratheon/Stark union). I understand people have problems with the comparisons, but they are obviously superficial, and I didn't even make the list (found it on /tv/).
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Prev 1 215 216 217 218 219 724 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
KungFu Cup 2026 Week 7
CranKy Ducklings116
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 100
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 6151
Sea 2352
Artosis 608
ajuk12(nOOB) 15
Dota 2
monkeys_forever572
NeuroSwarm161
League of Legends
JimRising 663
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1086
m0e_tv345
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox454
Other Games
summit1g12192
Day[9].tv507
C9.Mang0392
PiGStarcraft324
Maynarde134
Trikslyr59
CosmosSc2 43
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1030
Counter-Strike
PGL751
Other Games
BasetradeTV33
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 12
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 71
• davetesta28
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP19
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo317
Other Games
• Scarra1026
• Day9tv507
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
7h 56m
Kung Fu Cup
8h 56m
WardiTV Qualifier
11h 56m
GSL
1d 7h
Cure vs sOs
SHIN vs ByuN
Replay Cast
1d 21h
GSL
2 days
Classic vs Solar
GuMiho vs Zoun
WardiTV Spring Champion…
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
WardiTV Spring Champion…
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Classic vs SHIN
Rogue vs Bunny
BSL
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Flash vs Soma
RSL Revival
5 days
BSL
5 days
Patches Events
5 days
Universe Titan Cup
6 days
Rogue vs Percival
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W7
2026 GSL S1
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
YSL S3
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
Heroes Pulsing #1
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
Bounty Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.