EPTOn October 04 2012 03:56 antilyon wrote:
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FUUUUUCK. WHY DID ROBB HAD TO DIE? Seriously, I'm really sad right now...
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[TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion - Page 182
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caruso
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Get out of this thread, you'll ruin your reading-experience if you read on... | ||
antilyon
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On October 04 2012 03:59 caruso wrote: Get out of this thread, you'll ruin your reading-experience if you read on... I didn't read anything else, I just had to say this out loud, but thanks for the warning  | ||
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Irrelevant Label
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scudst0rm
Canada1149 Posts
On October 04 2012 04:53 Irrelevant Label wrote: haha, ok, nevermind about that original version of this post. I didn't pay attention to which thread this is at first. That post is fine. He didn't even need to spoiler tag it, stuff like that is thrown around all the time here. Probably just spoilered it so he didn't offend anyone with his all caps. Very considerate actually. | ||
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Blacktion
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Lord Hoster names her loads of times on his deathbed but as far as i know theres no indication who he means or why its important. Seems like shes mentioned too many times to not be relevent to the story, hosters death isnt that significant to the story so it didnt really need an in depth description, so including it seems to indicate its important. Especially during ASOS when 9000000 things are happening, if GRRM didnt plan for it to be important i doubt it wouldve been included. | ||
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DURRHURRDERP
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MajuGarzett
Canada635 Posts
On October 12 2012 08:49 DURRHURRDERP wrote: IIRC wasn't he talking about the potion he mixed to abort Lysa + Littlefinger's love child (contained tansy etc etc etc)? Maybe that's a red herring though. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was an ingredient of the abortion potion. | ||
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Irrelevant Label
United States596 Posts
I do not think it would be in too small a company as an ultimately meaningless point that was thrown in for the sake of detail and/or intentionally setting up a red herring conspiracy topic rather than being part of some relevant plot mystery to be followed up on. Once in a while GRRM shows a rock in the road and then the bicycle rides by it and it is forgotten. | ||
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moopie
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http://www.westeros.org/Citadel/FAQ/Entry/Who_or_what_is_Tansy/ | ||
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Vandrad
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"Will Khal Drogo come back?" | ||
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Tazerenix
Australia340 Posts
The consummation of Daenerys' and Drogo's marriage is so rapey in the TV show. By the end of the chapter she wanted it in the book. | ||
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MajuGarzett
Canada635 Posts
On October 13 2012 19:30 Vandrad wrote: My name is Vandrad and I'm here ask one simple question "Will Khal Drogo come back?" Dany smothered him with a pillow and then cremated his body so probably not I would think. | ||
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scudst0rm
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On October 14 2012 04:20 aloT wrote: I didn't for a single moment feel that Jon died. Even if he suffered terrible injuries, I expect that the wildlings (what are they doing?) or Mellisandre would have the power to heal him back up. Maybe Mellisandre will use it as an opportunity to convert Jon, and through him the wildings into her religion. The popular theory is that Jon does die and then gets revived through some combination of warging and fire magic. This 1. releases him from his nights watch vows and 2. fulfills the AA prophecy | ||
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SilverLeagueElite
United States626 Posts
On October 12 2012 08:45 Blacktion wrote: Is there a theory to the importance of "tansy" yet? Lord Hoster names her loads of times on his deathbed but as far as i know theres no indication who he means or why its important. Seems like shes mentioned too many times to not be relevent to the story, hosters death isnt that significant to the story so it didnt really need an in depth description, so including it seems to indicate its important. Especially during ASOS when 9000000 things are happening, if GRRM didnt plan for it to be important i doubt it wouldve been included. An important mention of tansy is during the moon door scene with Lysa, Petyr and Sansa. Here Lysa gives specific measurements on how to make the tea - all within Sansa's hearing. GRRM could just have very well written that chapter without giving specifics of the tea, but now we must consider the implications of Sansa knowing the tansy recipe. | ||
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Hryul
Austria2609 Posts
On October 14 2012 04:30 scudst0rm wrote: The popular theory is that Jon does die and then gets revived through some combination of warging and fire magic. This 1. releases him from his nights watch vows and 2. fulfills the AA prophecy what's the AA prophecy? sorry but it's been a while since i read the book | ||
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Zealotdriver
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Hryul
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Irrelevant Label
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His other handling of the wildlings and making a deal with the Iron Bank were great though and his detractors in the watch are pretty clearly in the wrong. Just a bit of a failure to manage discipline and prevent incidents like with the giant at the end there, but honestly with the issue of the 'queensmen' around there is next to nothing he can do that won't end up costing even more than it might save. If he puts his foot down he is just going to end up with a fight against Stannis' men and once that chaos starts who knows what would end up happening within 'his' ranks with the wildlings. It seems to be time for him to move on, but other than Hardhome his management of the Nights Watch will probably prove to have been about as well as things could be done to try and get things to hold as long as possible against the others and winter itself. When you look at the main candidates for lord commander it's very likely he proved to be the best for the job in that rather vital ~year, even if it was in some part his pedigree and the way Stannis was willing to deal with him on account of it. Things are pretty sure to go to hell fast under whoever becomes the new lord commander now, though he will be inheriting a terrible situation of course. Edit: So tldr, no, he did not go full retard at all. He was stupid about white knighting for the 'poor people who went to Hardhome'. He was raised by Ned, what can you expect? | ||
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Kyuukyuu
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2. There are thousands of people north of the Wall who know the land better than most rangers do. 3. Dead people turn into undead zombies, which are a lot harder to make friends with Seems pretty clear it was a good move by Jon, but of course it's one thing to make a good move and another to convince hundreds of people to change their ways. On October 14 2012 06:34 Hryul wrote: what's the AA prophecy? sorry but it's been a while since i read the book AA = Azor Ahai. Salla tells Davos about it in ACOK, and Mel thinks Stannis is him. Fan theory suggests instead that it's Jon, but it's pretty bs in my opinion. There won't be any magic swords and heroes that oneshot the Others in ASOIAF, I don't think. Another common theory is that it's just a metaphor for something, and Lightbringer (the flaming sword) = the Dragons, or the NW, and serves to protect against the Others. Anyway Jon is almost definitely alive or else why have the Varamyr Sixskins prologue? | ||
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