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On October 17 2011 14:42 SpoR wrote:
The first season was pretty boring and I doubt this one will be any better.
Well, I'm pretty sure they fired the entire set of writers from last season. I think that in itself pretty much sums up the show. It's a really cool concept (apocalyptic fiction) that could make for a really interesting series. Having said that, I think they are doing a really poor job living up to that potential. I'll keep watching just because I like the concept so much, but I'm really hoping they have more to connect the episodes than a love triangle and a girl wanting to off herself - both of which I would go watch The Young and the Restless if I was interested in.
I also think it's typical how at the end of last season they had the doctor whisper something into Rick's ear, then at the beginning of this season they bring it up, but don't shed any further light on it. Seems like a very cheap way to hold onto something... Almost like they are keeping it in the plot for whenever the ratings start to drop.
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On October 17 2011 22:12 theSkareqro wrote:
I don't know if its only teamliquid people, seems prevalent here anyways, you people always try to have something smart to say about something. You are watching a zombie movie ffs, just enjoy the ride. Sometimes you have to take dramas at face value. This is coming from a literature student and a chemical engineer.
How can we enjoy it if we can't feel it?
The atmosphere is really important in most literature, and if nothing ever relates, the viewer loses the connection to feel and experience. And that whats differ between good literature and bad one.
People can still enjoy good fictional stories, provided they are made believable and able to relate ourselves with.
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I feel like the show was done by the same guys who did Lost: just making it up as they go along, no real goal in mind, throw in some implausible situations, and just dangle something shiny (ie. zombies) in front of the audience until they stop crying and go "Oooh, shiny zombies  "...
Still gonna watch it though, the character development is intriguing enough, and it's not like there's much else that's good on TV these days...
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It's not that most people here are simply posting complaints due to the lack of "action" or anything interesting happening whatsoever. People who read the comics(or like me, who haven't but have a good notion of how things are over there) are just expecting the same level of interesting content to be delivered by the show and are getting disheartened by it's "slow pace". I realize it's was just the first episode of this new season, but they had a year to make it more interesting and it just seems more of the same of we had last season(so far..). Hopefully they'll start drinking from the comic's font more often.
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+ Show Spoiler +On October 17 2011 17:09 Tehs Tehklz wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2011 11:55 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On October 17 2011 11:52 Paraclete wrote:On October 17 2011 11:50 Pyskee wrote:On October 17 2011 11:45 Paraclete wrote:On October 17 2011 11:35 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
This is really funny reading these comments of how mad and surprised people are acting when they see others acting retarded. It's like they're completely oblivious to the world they live in currently and still don't realize that the potential for humans to act retarded is essentially limitless. There's legitimate complaints about the show, but some of these are just absurd as it people are just desperate to look for reasons to complain.
A few silly complaints:
Example 1: Really complaining that they didn't notice the horde on the highway until 50 yards away? Did you notice they stopped on an inclined hill that obviously is going to block vision?
Example 2: You're really complaining about their shoes being untied? I don't know about you, but the last time I tied my shoes is probably when I bought them.
It's just pointless to debate these nitpicky physical complaints about the show because 99% of them are silly.
For me, the first few minutes were kinda meh, but that highway scene was probably one of the better zombie scenes I've ever watched, it wasn't the first episode of S1 but it was pretty damn good for the most part.
I'd say the worst part about this episode was after the first hour, the last 30 minutes consisted of about 60-70% commercials. The guy was on top of the van looking around and when it showed a zoomed out view of the zombies approaching the people, there was at least a quarter mile stretch of road that was visible from his vantage point... I'm not being a complaining bitch the series is still enjoyable, I just thought that some of the parts were amusing. I'm pretty sure the zombies came from behind them. I forgot that when you're on lookout for zombies you only look in front of you. its not that big of a deal i just thought it was silly it doesnt have to be defended Refer to point above: You are surprised at people not being 100% thorough in their survival? People are no dumber in this show than they are IRL, I'm sure you've seen some crazy articles or seen some crazy videos of how stupid average people can be under random circumstances. Yeah, but all those average, stupid people should be fucking dead by now. Also, ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/idRW2.jpg) He most definitely could have seen those zombies from far, far away.
Not really, a ton of it is going to be dependent on luck, this isn't Starcraft where the best player always wins.
Also, no way is that miles, it looks smaller than 300 meters all the way around the stretch, and about half that if the zombies come from the forest.
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what a terrible episode. traffic jam part terrible, church part was awkward (the praying) and pointless. whats up with the brutality when they gut that zombie? violence = quality like in all those fuckin american horror movies? and yea, the deer scene, not only talking about the shot, but the fact it stands still next to the boy. wtf are the writers thinking.
terrible!
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I could hardly get through the first episode. Don't i look silly defending this series to my friends.
It wasn't very good by the end of the first season and it has just nose dived now. The bland forest/highway setting is award winning stuff compared to the dialogue writing.
"You can't have a weapon"
"Listen to your mom, go give the weapons to terrible lookout man"
"Amg why don't you be nicer to him and let him have a weapon?"
"What...i don't even...."
I am even thinking of dropping the show and i hardly ever do that. Such a high budget show and all i am thinking about is how you could easily fund 2-3 better shows off the corpse off walking dead.
So no they had better step it up or i might even drop it all together and no ammount of undead can battle the endless waves of poor drama and boring characters.
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Was I seeing things or did that zombie they gutted catch a bird? Really? :D
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On October 18 2011 01:59 Kira__ wrote:
Was I seeing things or did that zombie they gutted catch a bird? Really? :D
I thought it was a chipmunk lol
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They had better pick it up in the next few episodes. I liked the part between Andrea and Dale, and the fact that they had the good sense to siphon gas from the other cars in the car jam, but everything else just made me want to punch a zombified kitten.
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On October 17 2011 12:18 slyboogie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2011 12:04 Hoon wrote:
We mean that nothing happens to the story line. They spent 90 minutes looking for a girl and didn't even find her. That's why it was bad. <_<
That's not a popular stance, but I agree with you. Walking Dead has nice production value and some really good moments but it's just a really long zombie movie. That's fine but there's only so much you can get out of terror, despair and grief before you realize the show is just about zombies. There's not that much growing for the characters to do. I mean, it's better than anything that's not Mad Men, Breaking Bad, Homeland and Boardwalk Empire but it's not really on that level. I still enjoy it. Just trying to be snooty about a TV show, I guess.
If they do it right it's not about zombies very much at all.
Comic vague spoiler talking about the style & direction the comics head into:
+ Show Spoiler +The zombies are always a threat and driving force in the books, but as the series progresses the # of people who die due to just unprovoked zombie attacks goes down and it's more about people killing each other for resources or safe locations.
With the survivors being armed with melee weapons, if it's like the comics at all, most zombies are hurdles more than serious threats. Even 5-10 zombies are something people can handle in the comics if they're good with their melee weapon.
Meanwhile the characters develop mostly by breaking down (and how they handle that). If you had to rate people's mood from 1-10 with 10 being happy and 1 being completely broken... then you'd have to give everyone in the TV show a 9-10 to make room for how much they break down (assuming it ends up like the comics).
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If the writing was as bad as people say it is then at the end of the episode Jesus would have answered Grimes prayers and they would have found the girl and gotten their miracle
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On October 18 2011 02:07 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2011 01:59 Kira__ wrote:
Was I seeing things or did that zombie they gutted catch a bird? Really? :D I thought it was a chipmunk lol
Yeh 100% chipmunk!
ps. Also btw, i did like the fragment at the end whats further to come in season 2. Some cool stuff i think. (so i wont give up on the show now, despite first episode being a bit fail)
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On October 18 2011 02:24 BlackJack wrote:
If the writing was as bad as people say it is then at the end of the episode Jesus would have answered Grimes prayers and they would have found the girl and gotten their miracle
Good writing is more then not walking head first into obvious cliches.
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He most definitely could have seen those zombies from far, far away.
He also could have seen that the road was blocked from away also....In TV and movies people never see anything until its close
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They specifically say the animal they found in the gutted zombie was a woodchuck aka a groundhog.
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Most of these characters are as dumb as rocks. They're practically brain-dead zombies already. It seems like the only one with a fucking clue is the redneck. The concept and budget gives the show such potential, yet the writers botch it.
On the topic of smart zombies:
This could actually benefit the show since it makes them a more serious adversary. 28 Days Later gave us fast zombies, so why not buff their intelligence stat as well?
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it was ok... so many commercials for a cliffhanger though.
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On October 17 2011 17:09 Tehs Tehklz wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2011 11:55 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On October 17 2011 11:52 Paraclete wrote:On October 17 2011 11:50 Pyskee wrote:On October 17 2011 11:45 Paraclete wrote:On October 17 2011 11:35 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
This is really funny reading these comments of how mad and surprised people are acting when they see others acting retarded. It's like they're completely oblivious to the world they live in currently and still don't realize that the potential for humans to act retarded is essentially limitless. There's legitimate complaints about the show, but some of these are just absurd as it people are just desperate to look for reasons to complain.
A few silly complaints:
Example 1: Really complaining that they didn't notice the horde on the highway until 50 yards away? Did you notice they stopped on an inclined hill that obviously is going to block vision?
Example 2: You're really complaining about their shoes being untied? I don't know about you, but the last time I tied my shoes is probably when I bought them.
It's just pointless to debate these nitpicky physical complaints about the show because 99% of them are silly.
For me, the first few minutes were kinda meh, but that highway scene was probably one of the better zombie scenes I've ever watched, it wasn't the first episode of S1 but it was pretty damn good for the most part.
I'd say the worst part about this episode was after the first hour, the last 30 minutes consisted of about 60-70% commercials. The guy was on top of the van looking around and when it showed a zoomed out view of the zombies approaching the people, there was at least a quarter mile stretch of road that was visible from his vantage point... I'm not being a complaining bitch the series is still enjoyable, I just thought that some of the parts were amusing. I'm pretty sure the zombies came from behind them. I forgot that when you're on lookout for zombies you only look in front of you. its not that big of a deal i just thought it was silly it doesnt have to be defended Refer to point above: You are surprised at people not being 100% thorough in their survival? People are no dumber in this show than they are IRL, I'm sure you've seen some crazy articles or seen some crazy videos of how stupid average people can be under random circumstances. Yeah, but all those average, stupid people should be fucking dead by now. Also, He most definitely could have seen those zombies from far, far away.
To be fair, it's unlikely that the zombies just walked on the road from the distance.Otherwise, since they come from behind, the survivors would have passed them by...
The old man was just not looking in the right direction for 20 minutes, so what?
He was not repairing the trailer's radiator himself either. Even though there are better times to introduce mechanics to your pupil than in the middle of nowhere with potential zombies surrounding you. And you don't hear people complain about that do you?
Honestly, i would gladly overlook all the incoherences if the show didn't lack character depth and tension so much.
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On October 18 2011 02:54 leo23 wrote:
it was ok... so many commercials for a cliffhanger though.
Thats the only positive thing about the netherlands, because dutch television sux so much balls, they never ever have any decent program on (only reallife/ talentshows UGHH). I have to rely on the intrawebs to watch it, so no commercials.
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