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Discussing the show and past episodes is fine. Do not put things that have happened in the TV series in spoilers. However, don't spoil things from the books that may happen in future episodes. Put book spoilers in spoiler tags with a CLEAR WARNING that it is from the book.
SpoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1542 Posts
October 17 2011 05:42 GMT
#1021
The first season was pretty boring and I doubt this one will be any better.
A man is what he thinks about all day long.
saocyn
Profile Joined July 2011
United States937 Posts
October 17 2011 05:47 GMT
#1022
pros:
they started following the comic a bit more and getting back on track hopefully it stays that way and not non sensical bull shit that they came up with on the fly to fill in episodes. they really do have enough content to really just follow the plot and not catch up to the comic anytime soon, so i don't see why they need to create random scenarios and go off script.

cons:
this episode seemed really weak for the starting of second season. the forest looks like your average day non threatening forest that doesn't seem deep at all, it seems like a neighborhood woods imo.
also not enough zombies, they literally ran from the their camp to the church and back without running into ANY zombies? like wtf. the best they could do was put a zombie in a tent. most of them were walking as if they didn't care what they would run into, none of them were attentive as if there was a possible threat in an unknown area coming back from the church to the camp. the best they did to make it look like they cared was when dale handed shane's wife a gun.


Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 17 2011 07:10 GMT
#1023
A lot of plotlines opened up in the first episode. Can't wait til next week!
Tehs Tehklz
Profile Joined July 2011
United States330 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 08:10:05
October 17 2011 08:09 GMT
#1024
On October 17 2011 11:55 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 11:52 Paraclete wrote:
On October 17 2011 11:50 Pyskee wrote:
On October 17 2011 11:45 Paraclete wrote:
On October 17 2011 11:35 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
This is really funny reading these comments of how mad and surprised people are acting when they see others acting retarded. It's like they're completely oblivious to the world they live in currently and still don't realize that the potential for humans to act retarded is essentially limitless. There's legitimate complaints about the show, but some of these are just absurd as it people are just desperate to look for reasons to complain.

A few silly complaints:
Example 1: Really complaining that they didn't notice the horde on the highway until 50 yards away? Did you notice they stopped on an inclined hill that obviously is going to block vision?

Example 2: You're really complaining about their shoes being untied? I don't know about you, but the last time I tied my shoes is probably when I bought them.

It's just pointless to debate these nitpicky physical complaints about the show because 99% of them are silly.

For me, the first few minutes were kinda meh, but that highway scene was probably one of the better zombie scenes I've ever watched, it wasn't the first episode of S1 but it was pretty damn good for the most part.

I'd say the worst part about this episode was after the first hour, the last 30 minutes consisted of about 60-70% commercials.


The guy was on top of the van looking around and when it showed a zoomed out view of the zombies approaching the people, there was at least a quarter mile stretch of road that was visible from his vantage point...

I'm not being a complaining bitch the series is still enjoyable, I just thought that some of the parts were amusing.

I'm pretty sure the zombies came from behind them.


I forgot that when you're on lookout for zombies you only look in front of you.

its not that big of a deal i just thought it was silly it doesnt have to be defended


Refer to point above: You are surprised at people not being 100% thorough in their survival? People are no dumber in this show than they are IRL, I'm sure you've seen some crazy articles or seen some crazy videos of how stupid average people can be under random circumstances.


Yeah, but all those average, stupid people should be fucking dead by now.

Also,

[image loading]

He most definitely could have seen those zombies from far, far away.
Skoe420
Profile Joined July 2010
United States44 Posts
October 17 2011 08:16 GMT
#1025
Yeah the part where he was on the rv and had no clue the zombies were there until they were right on top of them all was kinda crap, dumb old guy doesn't need to be the look out anymore.

+ Show Spoiler +
An the part where the kid gets shot at the end WHAT the fuck lol, i figured a zombie was going to come out an try to get him or some crap but damn...a rife shot to a like 11 year old??
Taiko
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria78 Posts
October 17 2011 08:23 GMT
#1026
+ Show Spoiler +
An the part where the kid gets shot at the end WHAT the fuck lol, i figured a zombie was going to come out an try to get him or some crap but damn...a rife shot to a like 11 year old??
[/QUOTE]


well that was actually like that in the comic book : )

i am a huge fan of the comics but what i dont like about the series is the lack of accuracy. there are a lot of characters in the tv show that are not in the books. besides that it is pretty well made


Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
October 17 2011 09:37 GMT
#1027
On October 17 2011 17:16 Skoe420 wrote:
Yeah the part where he was on the rv and had no clue the zombies were there until they were right on top of them all was kinda crap, dumb old guy doesn't need to be the look out anymore.

+ Show Spoiler +
An the part where the kid gets shot at the end WHAT the fuck lol, i figured a zombie was going to come out an try to get him or some crap but damn...a rife shot to a like 11 year old??



That is pretty much the only thing that gives me hope for the series.
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Morale
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1010 Posts
October 17 2011 09:53 GMT
#1028
Awesome show! Maybe im biased cause i love everything with zombies!
ThyHate
Profile Joined September 2011
240 Posts
October 17 2011 10:22 GMT
#1029
The religious monologue were so horribly annoying... otherwise cool episode !
Hoon
Profile Joined December 2010
Brazil891 Posts
October 17 2011 11:01 GMT
#1030
On October 17 2011 12:41 Mordiford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 12:23 Hoon wrote:
On October 17 2011 12:07 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On October 17 2011 12:04 Hoon wrote:
On October 17 2011 11:35 GGTeMpLaR wrote:

Example 3: Nothing happens. Really? If you want 90 minutes of gore/action/sex go watch Transformers.

We mean that nothing happens to the story line. They spent 90 minutes looking for a girl and didn't even find her. That's why it was bad. <_<


I just don't see how characters developing and interacting through minor storylines while they progress towards a more significant one with the main still in the back of everyone's minds is nothing happening in the storyline though.

I know some of you mean "nothing happens in the storyline", I just don't see how you can argue that, it seems like you want violence and what-not, or instant gratification of problems being solved when they arise.

The girl hunting could be an acceptable "minor storyline" if they didn't waste so much time looking for her. It doesn't need to show us some ultra-violence or gore scenes (I actually watch the Walking Dead because of the drama thing, not the gore part of it), just some sign that they are progressing through the story.


I keep hearing people talking about the "story" and progressing through it... What fucking story? It's a zombie apocalypse, the characters and their interactions are the whole thing, their goals are individual and continually changing, there is no end goal we're working towards in this show, the story is surviving, that's all there is.

If it's uninteresting it's because of a lack of worthwhile character interaction, which I don't think was the case in this episode.

"Story progression" is progressing through the original story. In the first season, they made a HUGE progress with just 6 episodes, even tho they changed the [original] plot by the middle of the season.
The Walking Dead is not a L4D Live Action, where all they have to do is survive. It is actually a horror-drama story where they are trying to find somewhere safe.
Character progression should be a big thing too, but all they did was to repeat the "I wanna kill myself" discussion from the Season Finale and a small "Shane is a bad leader" conflict, which was something I actually liked.
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Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 11:07:38
October 17 2011 11:06 GMT
#1031
Dumb plot devices list:

1. Man's on watch with binoculars, fails to notice a giant walker herd until it's up in everyone's face.

2. Woman knows she can't assemble a gun, drops it on the floor to lure the walker.

3. Dude searches for a hiding place in a place full of hiding places, gets his arm slashed open.

4. Little girl goes out of hiding before anyone else and lures two walkers.

5. Little girl tries to go back to camp without waiting for help. For a scared little girl, she's pretty daring...

6. Little kid walks up to a wild deer, gets shot by a hunter.

Have to say I'm pretty disappointed, but I'll keep watching as I enjoyed the first season. It's just that I expected certain characters(particularly the buzz-cut lady and her girl) to grow out of their miseries.
/commercial
shadowboxer
Profile Joined November 2010
United States224 Posts
October 17 2011 11:26 GMT
#1032
Really enjoyed this episode except for a few of the glaring flaws such as the old guy turning around and having to check his binoculars to see the horde when they're not even a mile away. It made sense for rick because of the cars, but that part was just dumb. The only other thing I didn't like is how the little girl suddenly got really brave and left the hiding spot.

Other than that I enjoyed it and will probably still continue to enjoy it. I read the comics and enjoy them immensely but for some reason I can still appreciate this as a television series.
"Hear that? That's God laughing at your plans."
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 12:24:39
October 17 2011 12:20 GMT
#1033
Did the old man need fricking binoculars to see the zombies... I understand Rick needing a scope at ground level, but seriously, the old man's probably the reason why people died last season. Suck at lookout much. Otherwise, pretty nice story, hated the religion and praying, but I can understand why people would feel that way after not knowing really what to do.

I'm waiting for the short hair lady to be zombie fodder because she's annoying though.

Even though the blonde didn't know how to assemble the gun, I guess it was out of desparation. The little girl made me cringe though. Stupid kids.

I don't like how "smart" zombies are in this show, something I thought they'd fix for this season. If you remember from last season, a huge thing most people noticed was one of the zombies held a rock to break the department doors... I didn't like that. This episode, if you noticed, when the two guys were hiding under dead zombies, the alive zombies (wow that doesn't make much sense does it -.- ) didn't trip over them. I expected zombies to walk into each other more, or trip more, but they could seriously climb over the road divider to chase after the little girl, or even drop on the floor to grab under, and then stand back up without problems.

I still love the comics more, but this is still very, very exciting to watch.

And I like how they somewhat followed the story with Carl...


Also, the Talking Dead poll was hilarious. I totally called it when they started. :D

I don't know about you guys, but even as one giant zombie movie, this is still considerably better. I'm not sure what it is, maybe because I've read the books and can sort of see where the books are headed, I feel like the movie is trying to head in the same way, because all the conflicts from the books are still present, or I can see how the director could expand on them in later episodes. Maybe we'll see at the end of Season 2, but I guess everyone hopes it'll turn out well, or as good as it could be.
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Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
October 17 2011 12:26 GMT
#1034
Yea some things were kinda off but I still enjoyed it. And I hope the girl didn't just went from a scared little girl that didn't wanna be left behind to "brave" and ran off by herself and got lost. That would be silly. Maybe she was taken by someone since there was a hunter in the woods and people in the area cuz you could see on the "next episode" thing that they took Carl to some folks in what looked like a small town or something.
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DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
October 17 2011 12:30 GMT
#1035
On October 17 2011 20:06 Novalisk wrote:
Dumb plot devices list:

1. Man's on watch with binoculars, fails to notice a giant walker herd until it's up in everyone's face.

2. Woman knows she can't assemble a gun, drops it on the floor to lure the walker.

3. Dude searches for a hiding place in a place full of hiding places, gets his arm slashed open.

4. Little girl goes out of hiding before anyone else and lures two walkers.

5. Little girl tries to go back to camp without waiting for help. For a scared little girl, she's pretty daring...

6. Little kid walks up to a wild deer, gets shot by a hunter.

Have to say I'm pretty disappointed, but I'll keep watching as I enjoyed the first season. It's just that I expected certain characters(particularly the buzz-cut lady and her girl) to grow out of their miseries.


1. yes super stupid.
2. panic, desperate? Doesnt seem too odd.
3. Too fat to fit under a car?
4. She never got out. She put her head out to look
5. He did tell her go back if I dont return, scared 8? year old doesnt seem super odd.
6. Bullet penetration? Its not odd at all imo. Even people with orange vests gets shot by other hunters in sweden from time to time.

Can't wait for next episode super good imo.
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theSkareqro
Profile Joined June 2010
Singapore102 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 13:17:51
October 17 2011 13:12 GMT
#1036
I don't know if its only teamliquid people, seems prevalent here anyways, you people always try to have something smart to say about something. You are watching a zombie movie ffs, just enjoy the ride. Sometimes you have to take dramas at face value. This is coming from a literature student and a chemical engineer. I rather the guy accidentally cut himself on the metal shard feeling drowsy from bloodloss rather than he walking and suddenly tripping and crawling before getting eaten. It actually was impressive to see that Rick fell in the river and could get up fast.

Anyways, great episode. The tension and the intensity on the highway horde was immense. I kinda drag myself to watch through the "plead god" moment. Interested to see what will happen to cohesion of the group. Twist at the end was... damn.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
October 17 2011 13:33 GMT
#1037
On October 17 2011 19:22 ThyHate wrote:
The religious monologue were so horribly annoying... otherwise cool episode !


Yep. I had to windforward because of couple scenes, and this was one of them. ^_^

Seems like some of the actors aren't that good, but i can still watch this.
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sCuMBaG
Profile Joined August 2006
United Kingdom1144 Posts
October 17 2011 13:37 GMT
#1038
On October 17 2011 22:12 theSkareqro wrote:
Anyways, great episode. The tension and the intensity on the highway horde was immense. I kinda drag myself to watch through the "plead god" moment. Interested to see what will happen to cohesion of the group. Twist at the end was... damn.


I fast forwarded through that part... Hope I didn't miss anything interesting, but it just felt like boring shit..

I kinda liked this episode though. some weird moments, but I can't understand why so many guys here are bashing on it. It was still a good episodes with a lot of tense moments. And the preview at the end seemed like it's going to be a nice season.

I was kind of scared, that it might suck, because this one main producing guy left and the budget got cut down. The beginning seems quite fine to me though.
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
October 17 2011 13:40 GMT
#1039
On October 17 2011 17:09 Tehs Tehklz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 11:55 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On October 17 2011 11:52 Paraclete wrote:
On October 17 2011 11:50 Pyskee wrote:
On October 17 2011 11:45 Paraclete wrote:
On October 17 2011 11:35 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
This is really funny reading these comments of how mad and surprised people are acting when they see others acting retarded. It's like they're completely oblivious to the world they live in currently and still don't realize that the potential for humans to act retarded is essentially limitless. There's legitimate complaints about the show, but some of these are just absurd as it people are just desperate to look for reasons to complain.

A few silly complaints:
Example 1: Really complaining that they didn't notice the horde on the highway until 50 yards away? Did you notice they stopped on an inclined hill that obviously is going to block vision?

Example 2: You're really complaining about their shoes being untied? I don't know about you, but the last time I tied my shoes is probably when I bought them.

It's just pointless to debate these nitpicky physical complaints about the show because 99% of them are silly.

For me, the first few minutes were kinda meh, but that highway scene was probably one of the better zombie scenes I've ever watched, it wasn't the first episode of S1 but it was pretty damn good for the most part.

I'd say the worst part about this episode was after the first hour, the last 30 minutes consisted of about 60-70% commercials.


The guy was on top of the van looking around and when it showed a zoomed out view of the zombies approaching the people, there was at least a quarter mile stretch of road that was visible from his vantage point...

I'm not being a complaining bitch the series is still enjoyable, I just thought that some of the parts were amusing.

I'm pretty sure the zombies came from behind them.


I forgot that when you're on lookout for zombies you only look in front of you.

its not that big of a deal i just thought it was silly it doesnt have to be defended


Refer to point above: You are surprised at people not being 100% thorough in their survival? People are no dumber in this show than they are IRL, I'm sure you've seen some crazy articles or seen some crazy videos of how stupid average people can be under random circumstances.


Yeah, but all those average, stupid people should be fucking dead by now.

Also,

[image loading]

He most definitely could have seen those zombies from far, far away.


rofl my thoughts exactly.

Have a look out, Look out doesnt see shit untill its on top of them. GG

In these circumstances i think survival of the fittest counts, but holy shit, are these the fittest people they could find?
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iLikeRain
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark504 Posts
October 17 2011 13:40 GMT
#1040
On October 17 2011 21:20 Blisse wrote:
Did the old man need fricking binoculars to see the zombies... I understand Rick needing a scope at ground level, but seriously, the old man's probably the reason why people died last season. Suck at lookout much.

Haters gonna hate, but I completely agree.

Thought it was a great first episode except for the obvious flaws. Can't wait for the next episodes!
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