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On October 16 2012 11:13 slyboogie wrote:
This is probably the best episode since the amazing series premiere. I'm glad they got away from all the existential bull shit for a bit. Yeah we get it, life is hard in a post-apocalyptic zombie and humans will struggle with concepts of leadership, humanity, decency, blah blah blah. The Walking Dead never did this kind of stuff well though. It was always hamfisted and wooden. What they do well is Zombies. Also, killing Zombies. I enjoyed this hour.
Tagged for spoilers (comic related) just to be safe.
+ Show Spoiler +The Walking Dead comics are all about the concepts you listed. The problem was that the writers in season 2 sucked major ass so they couldn't get it right as the writing was so contrived and bad.
So yeah, themes of leadership and morality are going to come up sooner or later, especially with the new prisoners coming up as well as The Governor.
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On October 16 2012 11:05 LoLAdriankat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2012 10:18 ChuCky.Ca wrote:On October 16 2012 10:09 fabiano wrote:
If Rick's wife and kid were dead I bet the show would be 100% more fun. looks like Carl isn't so bad anymore from what we saw in the first episode but Lori just die plz  Yeah, Carl actually resembles his comic book counterpart for once. Looks like he wants some action with the blonde farm girl LOL.
Am I the only one creeped out by their interaction? She looks as if she's 5 years too old for him.
(Edit: Turns out I was off, by a lot. She's actually well into her late 20's...)
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On October 16 2012 11:40 Cel.erity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2012 11:05 LoLAdriankat wrote:On October 16 2012 10:18 ChuCky.Ca wrote:On October 16 2012 10:09 fabiano wrote:
If Rick's wife and kid were dead I bet the show would be 100% more fun. looks like Carl isn't so bad anymore from what we saw in the first episode but Lori just die plz Yeah, Carl actually resembles his comic book counterpart for once. Looks like he wants some action with the blonde farm girl LOL. Am I the only one creeped out by their interaction? She looks as if she's 5 years too old for him. (Edit: Turns out I was off, by a lot. She's actually well into her late 20's...)
if thats the case what a player carl is if gets on that
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On October 16 2012 11:40 Cel.erity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2012 11:05 LoLAdriankat wrote:On October 16 2012 10:18 ChuCky.Ca wrote:On October 16 2012 10:09 fabiano wrote:
If Rick's wife and kid were dead I bet the show would be 100% more fun. looks like Carl isn't so bad anymore from what we saw in the first episode but Lori just die plz Yeah, Carl actually resembles his comic book counterpart for once. Looks like he wants some action with the blonde farm girl LOL. Am I the only one creeped out by their interaction? She looks as if she's 5 years too old for him. (Edit: Turns out I was off, by a lot. She's actually well into her late 20's...) I think it's natural in their situation since they are the closest in age to each other. If the only person of the opposite sex you had seen in over a year was 5+ years (not sure how old she is supposed to be in the show, she's had like 3 lines?) then it wouldn't matter as much as now with societal norms.
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On October 16 2012 11:40 Cel.erity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2012 11:05 LoLAdriankat wrote:On October 16 2012 10:18 ChuCky.Ca wrote:On October 16 2012 10:09 fabiano wrote:
If Rick's wife and kid were dead I bet the show would be 100% more fun. looks like Carl isn't so bad anymore from what we saw in the first episode but Lori just die plz Yeah, Carl actually resembles his comic book counterpart for once. Looks like he wants some action with the blonde farm girl LOL. Am I the only one creeped out by their interaction? She looks as if she's 5 years too old for him. (Edit: Turns out I was off, by a lot. She's actually well into her late 20's...)
Actual age and perceived age in the context of a show are two totally different things though. Just look at any high school drama (90210, The OC, One Tree Hill. etc...) which had/has 24+ yr olds playing high schoolers.
She's supposed to be 16 in the show and Carl 13 (as opposed to 8 in the comics iirc), so it's really not all that "creepy".
+ Show Spoiler +Anyway, if she replaced who I think she replaced and they are staying true(or close to) to the source material this season, she will be dead very soon.
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I don't know if this is explained in the book but the one thing that kinda bothers me is the lady with the two "pet" zombies. She cut of their arms and jaws so they can't bite or grab her, essentially reducing here chance of infection by those zombies and she keeps them around as "pets" so they mask her sent in return. Ok I can roll with that. Why on earth though do the zombies act like a domesticated dogs. They just stand there obediently with absolutely no desire to trying to attack her. Cutting off a zombies arms and lower jaw doesn't mean that you removed their basic instinct to attack, maul and eat living humans, even if they are in a state where they practically speaking, they can't.
-Note: This is not meant to be a hate comment on walking dead I love the show but like all shows I love I like it best when they are as believable as possible. Which means having some consistency in things like zombie behavior. Any ideas as to why this is?
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On October 16 2012 12:39 Bearhammer wrote:
I don't know if this is explained in the book but the one thing that kinda bothers me is the lady with the two "pet" zombies. She cut of their arms and jaws so they can't bite or grab her, essentially reducing here chance of infection by those zombies and she keeps them around as "pets" so they mask her sent in return. Ok I can roll with that. Why on earth though do the zombies act like a domesticated dogs. They just stand there obediently with absolutely no desire to trying to attack her. Cutting off a zombies arms and lower jaw doesn't mean that you removed their basic instinct to attack, maul and eat living humans, even if they are in a state where they practically speaking, they can't.
-Note: This is not meant to be a hate comment on walking dead I love the show but like all shows I love I like it best when they are as believable as possible. Which means having some consistency in things like zombie behavior. Any ideas as to why this is?
Actually she uses them as pack horses to carry her things, as you can see from S3E1 Seed
As for their behaviour, I'd go with the same as castrating cats, once you do they quickly lose interest in pursuing mates, I am going with zombies losing all their aggressive and "eat braaaaaains" functions when you get rid of all methods they have for that.
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Oh didn't see the pack mule thing. Adds a whole new side it. Thanks. I'm still now sure about the whole zombie behavior thing though.
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I have very few favorite zombie kills across the span of everything. Movies, games, etc. The latest episode gave me a new and my current favorite kill. Its where, I think Rick, yanks off the gas mask off of a zombie and all the skin went with the gas mask and what was left was a skull just trying to bite and then getting stabbed in the eye. Pretty damn good.
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On October 16 2012 12:47 Bearhammer wrote:
Oh didn't see the pack mule thing. Adds a whole new side it. Thanks. I'm still now sure about the whole zombie behavior thing though.
Should have noticed the packs on their back when she was leaving into the forest with Andrea 
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On October 15 2012 10:46 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Few lines in the new season and Andrea is already annoying.
This was my very first thought. They really need to get rid of her!
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i still get upset every time they use their guns to shoot zombies. hand to hand is working pretty damn effectively. save your ammo for worst case scenarios and mostly, for OTHER people. bullets are life in this environment. cherish them.
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On October 16 2012 14:05 albis wrote:
i still get upset every time they use their guns to shoot zombies. hand to hand is working pretty damn effectively. save your ammo for worst case scenarios and mostly, for OTHER people. bullets are life in this environment. cherish them.
They should find a museum of history and loot some swords and shit..
I'd use a halberd,, must be a great weapon against zombies.. Good reach,, chops off heads,, stabs brains,..
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In the beginning, why didn't Rick let his son eat the cat food? Hell if I was starving I would eat it. It's not like it's poisonous or anything.
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On October 16 2012 14:42 ryc wrote:
In the beginning, why didn't Rick let his son eat the cat food? Hell if I was starving I would eat it. It's not like it's poisonous or anything.
In a real world situation, I think they would have ate it since there isn't much difference between cat food and similar meat products that we eat. What that scene symbolizes is Rick's stubbornness as a leader to always provide the best for the group. He is unwilling to compromise or accept any sign that the group is weak or struggling.
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On October 16 2012 14:36 Zinnwaldite wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2012 14:05 albis wrote:
i still get upset every time they use their guns to shoot zombies. hand to hand is working pretty damn effectively. save your ammo for worst case scenarios and mostly, for OTHER people. bullets are life in this environment. cherish them. They should find a museum of history and loot some swords and shit.. I'd use a halberd,, must be a great weapon against zombies.. Good reach,, chops off heads,, stabs brains,..
I thought the same thing and about the same weapon for open space combat, maybe some sword or short sword for buildings!
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Love the most recent episode for season 3. Wow. Great start - I hope they keep this pace up, its great.
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On October 16 2012 12:39 Dosey wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2012 11:40 Cel.erity wrote:On October 16 2012 11:05 LoLAdriankat wrote:On October 16 2012 10:18 ChuCky.Ca wrote:On October 16 2012 10:09 fabiano wrote:
If Rick's wife and kid were dead I bet the show would be 100% more fun. looks like Carl isn't so bad anymore from what we saw in the first episode but Lori just die plz Yeah, Carl actually resembles his comic book counterpart for once. Looks like he wants some action with the blonde farm girl LOL. Am I the only one creeped out by their interaction? She looks as if she's 5 years too old for him. (Edit: Turns out I was off, by a lot. She's actually well into her late 20's...) Actual age and perceived age in the context of a show are two totally different things though. Just look at any high school drama (90210, The OC, One Tree Hill. etc...) which had/has 24+ yr olds playing high schoolers. She's supposed to be 16 in the show and Carl 13 (as opposed to 8 in the comics iirc), so it's really not all that "creepy". + Show Spoiler +Anyway, if she replaced who I think she replaced and they are staying true(or close to) to the source material this season, she will be dead very soon.
Yeah I know, but I think it's a weird decision to cast an actual child actor to play one child, and then hire a 27-year old woman to play another child, especially if they have some romantic chemistry in the writing. I don't think it plays too well on screen.
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On October 16 2012 16:38 Cel.erity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2012 12:39 Dosey wrote:On October 16 2012 11:40 Cel.erity wrote:On October 16 2012 11:05 LoLAdriankat wrote:On October 16 2012 10:18 ChuCky.Ca wrote:On October 16 2012 10:09 fabiano wrote:
If Rick's wife and kid were dead I bet the show would be 100% more fun. looks like Carl isn't so bad anymore from what we saw in the first episode but Lori just die plz Yeah, Carl actually resembles his comic book counterpart for once. Looks like he wants some action with the blonde farm girl LOL. Am I the only one creeped out by their interaction? She looks as if she's 5 years too old for him. (Edit: Turns out I was off, by a lot. She's actually well into her late 20's...) Actual age and perceived age in the context of a show are two totally different things though. Just look at any high school drama (90210, The OC, One Tree Hill. etc...) which had/has 24+ yr olds playing high schoolers. She's supposed to be 16 in the show and Carl 13 (as opposed to 8 in the comics iirc), so it's really not all that "creepy". + Show Spoiler +Anyway, if she replaced who I think she replaced and they are staying true(or close to) to the source material this season, she will be dead very soon. Yeah I know, but I think it's a weird decision to cast an actual child actor to play one child, and then hire a 27-year old woman to play another child, especially if they have some romantic chemistry in the writing. I don't think it plays too well on screen.
I don't think it's the as much their IRL age as it is a height thing. The child actor playing Carl is 13 IRL. And the 27 yr old actress is playing a 16 yr old.
Ok that's fine I can get how she could pass for 16 the way they put her hair up/is dressed and how she acts. If Carl wasn't as short as like a fucking 8 yr old and closer to her height I think it wouldn't feel as awkward on screen. So less about age more about height. I do agree that if they pursue romantic-ish things between the two of them I may skip those scenes due to extreme awkwardness.
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