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On October 18 2012 04:35 Kazeyonoma wrote:i mean it's follie to compare the two, because the two mediums just don't necessarily work the same way. I do admit there have been falters in the tv series, but this is always the case in adaptations to the screen. Overall I think TWD has done a good job portraying their own version of the graphic novels of TWD. + Show Spoiler +I do think that in the comics, the way they discover how they are all infected was more brutal, but more driving. Having the two kids kill each other, have tyrese lose his shit, and then have them come back and be like WTF WTF WTF, and have Rick figure it out and have that epic final scene of the volume. "WE are the Walking Dead" when everyone has turned against him as a leader. Beautiful
There are limitations in every adaptation, that is true, but the simple fact is that TWD TV is lacking many of the elements that make the comic great. Not to say the show isn't fun to watch, it is, but it feels more like fast comfort food than a quality meal.
1) The character drama. It was pretty good (not amazing) in the comic, almost none of it felt forced, unnatural or annoying. But the TV adaptation of it, whether due to the writing, acting or both, ends up looking like an overacted soup opera with irrational characters doing dumb things all the time.
2) The more shocking and horrific aspects of the comic, such as rape, murder of children, torture, cannibalism and so on are mostly abscent so far from the show. It seems they simply don't dare to show this kind of stuff and that removes one of the most interesting aspects, in my opinion, about the comic.
3) The zombie action. It's far easier to draw 100 zombies in a comic than have 100 extras or creat them digitally. It's an inevitable budget limitation but hurts the show none the less.
In any case, the only way for the TV show to real match up for the comic would have to have top notch character drama and development to compensate for the other inevitable loses in the story, but they have totally failed in that sense so far.
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it's also easy in a comic to show 2-3 scenes of fighting, then wrap it up with a giant pile of bodies and an exhausted group, and move on to the real story, while displaying how crazy certain zombie fights must've been. In television you can't do that, you have to go into detail about how they cleared out entire areas, because if they just showed rick hack 2-3 zombies, then daryl do the same, then suddenly cut to everyone entering the courtyard, they'd be like wtf happened? So it kills a lot of time too, something the graphic novels don't have issues with. TIME is based on how slow the reader wants to read things, and the reader can always flip back and go OH YEAH I DIDNT NOTICE THAT, at later revelations, but on the TV show, they have to pace things, and decide what goes in and what goes out, and how to fit it all into a 1 hour slot - commercials. On top of that, if there's anything they need to recap to make something stand out as a point, they have to further waste time with flashbacks, or REALLY hammer something into the audience before they reach the later eureka moment, which takes away the suspense.
Again, I love both the comics and the show, and can separate the two, and still be one happy customer who is just glad there's a fucking zombie show on television that kicks ass.
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Complaints about the dark stuff not being in the show are premature- considering the show just got to the point where that started to happen in the comics. The only major differences at this point are (at least as far as "dark" stuff goes):
In the show:
1. Sophia becomes a zombie.
2. Carl kills zombie Shane.
And that's about it. I can't recall the comic showing a kid becoming a zombie, at least not so soon. So perhaps one instance of the show not being as visceral? All the really messed up stuff .comes later, and Kirkman has said he's not going to shy away from it.
Also Shane shotting Otis and leaving him for dead is arguably worse than anything that appeared in the comic up to this point.
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Or just play The Walking Dead episodic game. Has arguably the best elements of the television show and the comics.
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On October 16 2012 11:05 LoLAdriankat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2012 10:18 ChuCky.Ca wrote:On October 16 2012 10:09 fabiano wrote:
If Rick's wife and kid were dead I bet the show would be 100% more fun. looks like Carl isn't so bad anymore from what we saw in the first episode but Lori just die plz  Yeah, Carl actually resembles his comic book counterpart for once. Looks like he wants some action with the blonde farm girl LOL.
Can't blame him for that. She's sooooooooo cute. :D
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On October 20 2012 16:03 p4NDemik wrote:+ Show Spoiler +This is a very accurate analysis of this show, unfortunately.
Perhaps so but I still love the show lol.
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IDK.. I really enjoyed the last episode. Maybe its because I didn't read the comics but damn was it good :D
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Medical practice with a zombie... yep, nothing can go wrong with that.
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On October 22 2012 10:42 CrimsonLotus wrote:
Medical practice with a zombie... yep, nothing can go wrong with that.
So close, yet so far. Carl should've taken the shot, two birds one stone
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That was literally THE STUPIDEST thing I have ever witnessed a human ever do.
Like seriously? Performing mouth-to-mouth on a recently deceased in a zombie apocalypse...
What the fuck?
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On October 22 2012 10:48 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
That was literally THE STUPIDEST thing I have ever witnessed a human ever do.
Like seriously? Performing mouth-to-mouth on a recently deceased in a zombie apocalypse...
What the fuck?
thats why she's my favorite, that and the vacant bovine cross eyed look she gives the camera
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On October 22 2012 10:48 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
That was literally THE STUPIDEST thing I have ever witnessed a human ever do.
Like seriously? Performing mouth-to-mouth on a recently deceased in a zombie apocalypse...
What the fuck?
This was actually the best scene in the entire series.
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Guess it turned out working...
I'd never be brave/stupid enough to do something like that though...
On October 22 2012 10:52 Blisse wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 10:48 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
That was literally THE STUPIDEST thing I have ever witnessed a human ever do.
Like seriously? Performing mouth-to-mouth on a recently deceased in a zombie apocalypse...
What the fuck? This was actually the best scene in the entire series.
Definitely disagree, but each to his own.
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Okies, comic spoilers coming so you've been warned:
+ Show Spoiler +The way I see it there were 2 ways this season could have gone, 1: they use the prison arc with the full cast of those they find in the prison, 2: what actually happened, all the prisoners die and they go straight into the gov. I'm really kinda sad that we're not going to see a bit of the prisoners in action, although Mr. Mustache is still alive  . Forget his name in the comics. I'm interested to see if Carol actually gets offed by the zombie they showed watching her (but seriously how fucking stupid can she be time after time again, easily dumbest survivor award right there). I don't know, I'm excited for the Gov. but damn sad they're leaving the prison arc so soon
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Well it takes a few hours for a deceased person to revive as a walker, so I wouldn't have been overly worried about Hershal coming back as a walker during the CPR, but I would have been worried about having some other virus transmit through the mouth that causes Laurie to go bonkers before she actually dies.
Since his leg was cut off and he literally just passed away seconds earlier, I don't think it's as stupid as you would think, however I still wouldn't do it lol.
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On October 22 2012 11:06 Grobyc wrote:
Well it takes a few hours for a deceased person to revive as a walker, so I wouldn't have been overly worried about Hershal coming back as a walker during the CPR, but I would have been worried about having some other virus transmit through the mouth that causes Laurie to go bonkers before she actually dies.
Since his leg was cut off and he literally just passed away seconds earlier, I don't think it's as stupid as you would think, however I still wouldn't do it lol.
actually there are no time limits as to when a walker revives. Shane turned almost immediately after being killed by Rick
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"Look I know I'm a shitty wife and I'm not winning any mother of the year awards..." Lory Grimes.
They're really writing for the fans this season.
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