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Also why did Shane turn right away, whereas Andrea's sister took hours and seemed like it was all night before it happened? I haven't seen that episode in a while but the bite wound didn't look bad enough to make her bleed out in 30 seconds like she dead. Could be wrong though...
Believe Dr. Jenner said that the rate people turn into zombies ranges widely from person to person. Can either be within 2minutes or hours later.
Maybe it could be related to their state of being when they died. If you're stressed, angry, psychotic, etc you turn faster. If you die in peace or happily etc like Jim or Dale than you don't turn for awhile. Just me rambling btw I have no proof for this theory.
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On March 20 2012 13:25 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +Also why did Shane turn right away, whereas Andrea's sister took hours and seemed like it was all night before it happened? I haven't seen that episode in a while but the bite wound didn't look bad enough to make her bleed out in 30 seconds like she dead. Could be wrong though... Believe Dr. Jenner said that the rate people turn into zombies ranges widely from person to person. Can either be within 2minutes or hours later. Maybe it could be related to their state of being when they died. If you're stressed, angry, psychotic, etc you turn faster. If you die in peace or happily etc like Jim or Dale than you don't turn for awhile. Just me rambling btw I have no proof for this theory.
Dale was shot in the head by Daryl to be put out of his misery after he had his chest ripped open. Jim, he was left alone by a tree. He didn't die by head trauma so he most likely would've turned.
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On March 20 2012 13:05 Radioman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 13:00 Disengaged wrote:On March 20 2012 12:53 Radioman wrote:On March 20 2012 12:32 Blisse wrote:On March 20 2012 11:10 Radioman wrote:On March 20 2012 10:58 Leth0 wrote:On March 20 2012 10:30 Kira__ wrote:On March 20 2012 10:23 calgar wrote:On March 20 2012 10:17 Cloud9157 wrote:On March 20 2012 08:18 calgar wrote:
She's got the most survival ability after Rick I think. Can't wait to see where it goes season 3! Daryl says hi. Heh you're right he's probably the best, forgot about him. I'm always worried that he's going to infect himself from his bloody bolts though.. Pull it out, scratch your eye, whatever. they are all already infected, it's only when you die that you turn Or get bitten? The bite can kill because the zombies mouths are like cesspools. From my understanding its if you get bit and you fight the infection you won't necessarily become a zombie. Correct me if I'm wrong. You die when you're bit. You can't fight the infection. But you can chop off the limb if possible and maybe live if the infected blood hasn't circulated through your body already. And you turn when you die Fight off the infection that they're already infected with? I'm talking about everyday infections that lead to the fevers that take most of their lives. Could it not be fought off with antibiotics assuming you had some in a zombie apocalypse. I think in The Walking Dead, the zombie bites aren't the "thing" that turns the survivors. Everyone is infected. The reason people die to the zombie bites is because of the amount of bacteria that are in their mouth. That causes the bitten person or people to get sick, high fever, bones ache, and what not, they die to that. Since everyone is already infected, they just have to die, from anything basically, and they turn. Look at Shane. He was stabbed with a knife and he turned. Randall got his neck snapped by Shane and he turned. If the person dies from brain trauma, then they won't turn. Thats just what I gathered from other people in the thread. Did you just quote me and just re-explain what I had posted.... EDIT: Ok I thought you tried to correct me with the same answer I gave lol...
Reanimation time is completely random. Plot dependent if anything.
Mortality rate for zombie bites based on everything I've seen/read is 100%, and that's consistent with every author's interpretation of the idea that I've seen.
With Romero's zombies ( said to be inventor of zombies ),
Although medical treatment of bites has been shown to slow the death and resurrection of victims, there is no known cure.
Here's some interesting stuff to look over. These are the more famous kinds of zombies.
http://zombie.wikia.com/wiki/Romero_zombies -- Romero
http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Zombies -- Kirkman
http://zombie.wikia.com/wiki/Solanum -- Brook
Make sure you recognize that Kirkman said himself he had a different version of zombie in mind ( I can't find the issue to show, but it's on the wiki. ) Of relevance is,
A zombie bite kills you because of infection, or blood loss ...
Back on topic.
I don't know where people started getting the idea that the mouth was full of bacteria and you died from that. It doesn't explain why your recently reanimated Amy could bite you and you'd probably die.
Kirkman has his own idea of what it's like and it's not really consistent from what I pick up, especially with the series.
Most authors say the transfer of body fluids kills you. They spit into your open wound and now you have some sort of virus in your body. Or zombie blood touches a open cut and the infected blood is in your veins now.
Kirkman kind of mixes both ideas.
+ Show Spoiler +One character doesn't turn when his leg is amputated. Another dies from the amputation. A bunch of characters in the characters eat Dale who was bitten and believed they would turn.
It's hard to say what antibiotics would do, but I'm going to say there's no way to prevent the spread of the infection, whether it's saliva, blood or germs.
I don't think it's safe to use anything from the first season as evidence for "zombies," since there were a lot of inconsistencies like the zombie using a rock to break the door, unless that's the type of zombie Kirkman was going for, which I doubt.
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On March 20 2012 12:57 Tien wrote:
I hate Lori.
How can she still give her husband so much cold shoulder shit everytime he does something logical / rational.
Logic / rationality escapes her completely.
Only 2/3 episodes after she told Rick he had to take Shane out as well, oh and letting Carl wander off AGAIN, #1 parent Lori...
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Park in horde of zombie
Gets out
lol Jimmy
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On March 20 2012 14:40 zenMaster wrote:
Park in horde of zombie
Gets out
lol Jimmy
lol I know, I felt like some people had their survival instincts removed in favour of plot.
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what i dont understand is how they are all infected, is it airborne im guessing?
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I know that I'm a little late to the party but MICHONNE!
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Have to agree with a point brought up already - I was just dumfounded when Jimmy went to get out of the RV after parking it amongst a large group of walkers outside the burning barn.
I was expecting them to jump ontop of the RV and him drive off, not him go for the exit...
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On March 20 2012 19:40 Nekovivie wrote:
Have to agree with a point brought up already - I was just dumfounded when Jimmy went to get out of the RV after parking it amongst a large group of walkers outside the burning barn.
I was expecting them to jump ontop of the RV and him drive off, not him go for the exit...
He didn't go to get out of the RV. If anything he was probably going to open the hatch to the roof of the RV so that Rick and Carl could climb down in. Zombies broke the door down, he didn't open it to leave.
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On March 20 2012 20:08 BlackJack wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 19:40 Nekovivie wrote:
Have to agree with a point brought up already - I was just dumfounded when Jimmy went to get out of the RV after parking it amongst a large group of walkers outside the burning barn.
I was expecting them to jump ontop of the RV and him drive off, not him go for the exit... He didn't go to get out of the RV. If anything he was probably going to open the hatch to the roof of the RV so that Rick and Carl could climb down in. Zombies broke the door down, he didn't open it to leave.
I'll have to watch it again to see in detail but it really looked like he was going to go out
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On March 20 2012 20:10 Nekovivie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 20:08 BlackJack wrote:On March 20 2012 19:40 Nekovivie wrote:
Have to agree with a point brought up already - I was just dumfounded when Jimmy went to get out of the RV after parking it amongst a large group of walkers outside the burning barn.
I was expecting them to jump ontop of the RV and him drive off, not him go for the exit... He didn't go to get out of the RV. If anything he was probably going to open the hatch to the roof of the RV so that Rick and Carl could climb down in. Zombies broke the door down, he didn't open it to leave. I'll have to watch it again to see in detail but it really looked like he was going to go out
It was the acting / scene layout that made it look that way.
He probably was going to open the hatch. but he got up and stood in the middle of the RV next to the door, looked at the door and then zombies were there.
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I think ive read almost every post in this thread, but
Im wondering about one thing.
Lori is pregnant, but shes infected, will the baby be a type of Dawn of the dead baby / Braindead baby ?
Or will it hold the key for human survival(somehow its immune to the virus and they can make an antidote)
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On March 20 2012 21:52 rampaged wrote:
I think ive read almost every post in this thread, but
Im wondering about one thing.
Lori is pregnant, but shes infected, will the baby be a type of Dawn of the dead baby / Braindead baby ?
Or will it hold the key for human survival(somehow its immune to the virus and they can make an antidote)
If they follow the comic...
+ Show Spoiler [Comic] +
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one other thing i noticed, mabye its totally random or something, but rick in the end was acting alot like shane, and he made the same breathing noise that shane did( like a rasping thing down his throat)
my brain keeps making up scenarioes i guess, like the virus makes ppl more paranoid after a while 
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On March 20 2012 22:40 rampaged wrote:one other thing i noticed, mabye its totally random or something, but rick in the end was acting alot like shane, and he made the same breathing noise that shane did( like a rasping thing down his throat) my brain keeps making up scenarioes i guess, like the virus makes ppl more paranoid after a while
I noticed that too. He'll probably have the same short hair as Shane come next season 
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On March 20 2012 22:40 rampaged wrote:one other thing i noticed, mabye its totally random or something, but rick in the end was acting alot like shane, and he made the same breathing noise that shane did( like a rasping thing down his throat) my brain keeps making up scenarioes i guess, like the virus makes ppl more paranoid after a while
just supposed to make them look like walkers. show is about how people react to these types of situations, not zombies 
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I didn't like the way show made Rick look like a dictator at the end of S2. Compared to comic it not even close. In the comic by this point they look up to him and respect him because he leads by example, he never sends another to do his job. They don't question his leadership about little things. He doesn't need to threaten anyone in the comic at this point for them to listen to him.
I just don't like it.
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On March 20 2012 23:24 -Archangel- wrote:
I didn't like the way show made Rick look like a dictator at the end of S2. Compared to comic it not even close. In the comic by this point they look up to him and respect him because he leads by example, he never sends another to do his job. They don't question his leadership about little things. He doesn't need to threaten anyone in the comic at this point for them to listen to him.
I just don't like it.
Well Rick just killed his own best friend, and then had the trauma of seeing the farm overran, people dying. At this point in the comic, he didn't..so it's hard to give a direct comparison to emotions/actions between the two.
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