On March 18 2010 11:06 sc4k wrote: Here's hoping for (finally) a good season. South Park has been bollocks since season 10, because everything is topical, the jokes are far more blatant and uninventive, there is barely any original story-telling, the pacing and music are getting far far far too formulaic, and the general 'random and inventive' factor of South Park has dropped to about 1/10 from being 10/10 in seasons 3-8 + 10. Like I said, here's hoping for something different, even though with the first episode being directly topical I very much doubt anything good will come of it .
I couldn't agree more, took the words right out of my mouth.
On March 18 2010 11:06 sc4k wrote: Here's hoping for (finally) a good season. South Park has been bollocks since season 10, because everything is topical, the jokes are far more blatant and uninventive, there is barely any original story-telling, the pacing and music are getting far far far too formulaic, and the general 'random and inventive' factor of South Park has dropped to about 1/10 from being 10/10 in seasons 3-8 + 10. Like I said, here's hoping for something different, even though with the first episode being directly topical I very much doubt anything good will come of it .
I couldn't agree more, took the words right out of my mouth.
RIP South Park
stop being such a critic, this show was always funny for its crude humor imo. it made me chuckle and im sure others laughed as well. if you ask me it sounds like family guy is your favorite TV show
On March 18 2010 11:06 sc4k wrote: Here's hoping for (finally) a good season. South Park has been bollocks since season 10, because everything is topical, the jokes are far more blatant and uninventive, there is barely any original story-telling, the pacing and music are getting far far far too formulaic, and the general 'random and inventive' factor of South Park has dropped to about 1/10 from being 10/10 in seasons 3-8 + 10. Like I said, here's hoping for something different, even though with the first episode being directly topical I very much doubt anything good will come of it .
What was wrong with season 9? That was the season with gems like "The Losing Edge," "Two Days Before the Day after Tomorrow," "The Death of Eric Cartman," and "Trapped in the Closet" among others. Actually, it may have been one of the best seasons.
IMO Losing edge 8/10, TDBTDAT 6/10, Death of Cartman 6/10, Trapped in the Closet 4/10. No idea why you don't mention Wing which is a solid 9/10 or Bloody Mary which could scrape a 9/10 because of Randy. Losing edge ofc only gets 8/10 because of Randy.
Compare that to any of the other seasons for example season 3:
hooked on monkey fonics 9/10, chinpokomon 9/10, Starvin' Marvin' in Space 9/10, The Red Badge of Gayness 9/10, Korn's Groovy Pirate Mystery 8/10
or season 7:
Christian Rock Hard 10/10, Casa Bonita 9/10, Krazy Kripples 8/10, South Park is Gay 10/10, Lil Crime Stoppers 9/10
I just have to accept that my South Park, the South Park I love, is dead. Dead and buried, and taken over by people with a completely different sense of humour who value basically blandly stating current affairs issues with slightly caricatured protagonists over actual comedy ingenuity. I can only sigh. At least it's not as bad as what happened to Simpsons, which also had its golden period seasons 3-8, then went drastically downhill as it too became both topical, uninventive and ridiculously processed with no comedic soul. Though with Simpsons it happened because all the good writers left. With South Park it's just that Matt and Trey probably ran out of internal ideas and started searching around current affairs for inspiration; or perhaps they are shirking the writing responsibility to other people. Or it's just because they realised that crap comedy sells more than good comedy.
I mean christ, how can you compare the quality of that recent SP episode where they just have a bunch of famous internet ppl saying their catchphrases to a standard classic like Scott Tenorman Must Die, Chickenlover or Christian Rock Hard. And yes, all of those are Cartman-based episodes because guess what Cartman MAKES South Park, not Butters.
Again, sigh, because now there's going to be a bunch of reactionary comments about how much people like Butters/ topical element/ Season 9/ latest episodes. Suffice to say if you disagree with me then I accept your viewpoint and you can count yourself lucky because South Park is pandering to your tastes not mine. The days of the random, comfortably budget, inventive, creative, hilarious South Park are dead and buried for me . The fact that most people's comments leading up to a new episode feature things like 'I can't wait to see who they rip on this time!' just horrifies me. Because before, they took things like the Christian donation channel or Sally Struthers, or Jonathan Edwards who were vague to begin with, and made them huge and hilarious. Now they take people who are already huge and feed off everyone's familiarity with them, supplying B+ jokes and terrible show pacing to make a thoroughly unsatisfying experience for yours truly.
And man I basically avoided posting around the time Whale Whores came out, because of how terrible that episode was. It was just a complete embarrassment. It wasn't South Park. It just wasn't. It was 'here is 20 minutes of tired repeated jokes, loud voices and formulaic development. With the obvious graphic death of the sea captain.' And what's more, graphic deaths were much better in the earlier episodes. For example, the protest outside the television company's headquarters or when the citizens just start killing each other because of political differences. After about the first 3 minutes of WW I was like 'are you fucking serious?? Crazy Japanese jokes for 20 minutes?' and I almost had to watch it through my hands because of how much I was facepalming.
I thought this episode was pure awesomeness and I disagree with everything "sc4k" writes (rating Trapped in the closet 4/10, what the fuck man? That episode is SP personified).
SP has developed to intelligent political/societal satire over the last seasons and i love it. I loved SP before too though.
On March 18 2010 23:22 AnWh wrote:(rating Trapped in the closet 4/10, what the fuck man? That episode is SP personified)
That being said, I thought this episode for season 14 was great, I'd give it 7.5/10
Ofc it's still the 'new' South Park, but it had nice touches like the Chimp giving an interview on his talk show (9), the video game concept which was pretty obvious and not amazingly done but still funny (7), the really awesome version of sexual healing that Trey Parker sang (not funny but a nice touch) (7), the alien wizard idea (8). That was pretty hilarious actually. So there was at least some good absurdity for old school SP fans.
It's your SP personified. Christian Rock Hard/ Starvin' Marvin' in Space/ South Park is Gay/ Scott Tenorman Must Die is MY SP personified. I guess because for me, absurdity >>>> satire. Because absurdity requires original inventive humour, whereas satire is just exaggeration. Crab people is funnier than scientologists. Eric Cartman as a cop saying 'sir...ehstep out of the car' in Chickenlover is far funnier, to me, than simply having the phrase 'then I pull out my gun' recurring.
I mean if you look at old episodes they are just littered with hilarious absurdity, for example the crazy black guy who keeps turning up on Jesus and Pals talk show and says 'Well here's how I see it Montel, sure he may have touched a few kids, but the man makes beautiful music' when he is in fact not on the Montel Williams show and Michael Jackson is not the topic of conversation. Whatever satire there is in the old school South Park is basically very low key and a sideshow in the shows. Now SP is basically a 'satire' show.
And what's more, Cartman's voice in the early episodes was so perfect I can't think of a funnier voice. It's now been diluted down and there are very few 'no kitty this is my puff pie', 'I'm seriously you guys' or 'eh, you guys, get me dahn from hyah' phrases, which completely sucks for me.
I also completely disagree that the satire in the recent episodes has been intelligent. In my opinion it has been blatant, crass, course and crap. And yes, South Park has always been crude, but in a sort of 'you don't know what to expect' way. Now it's crude in a sort of 'they didn't put any imagination into this episode AGAIN and they are relying on simply being crude' way.
On March 18 2010 11:06 sc4k wrote: Here's hoping for (finally) a good season. South Park has been bollocks since season 10, because everything is topical, the jokes are far more blatant and uninventive, there is barely any original story-telling, the pacing and music are getting far far far too formulaic, and the general 'random and inventive' factor of South Park has dropped to about 1/10 from being 10/10 in seasons 3-8 + 10. Like I said, here's hoping for something different, even though with the first episode being directly topical I very much doubt anything good will come of it .
I couldn't agree more, took the words right out of my mouth.
RIP South Park
stop being such a critic, this show was always funny for its crude humor imo. it made me chuckle and im sure others laughed as well. if you ask me it sounds like family guy is your favorite TV show
I didn't say anything about the crude humour! I always loved it. All I'm saying is that the crudeness of Weight Gain 4000 >>>>> the crudeness of Pinewood Derby; or that the Asian-based humour card was far funnier in City Wok guy vs the Mongolians rather than Japanese people in kimonos vs Miami Dolphins etc.
Simpsons is my favourite TV show and FG and (older) SP are equal
I consider it average and thus entertaining and good. Hade some clear chuckles but it was not epic. But even in the past they came like just a few every season.
yes yes we all know south park isn't as good as it used to be. It's still enjoyable enough for me to keep watching which is more than i could say about the simpsons after they started sucking.
This episode was really funny and I was laughing the whole time. The wizard alien coming out of nowhere and Butters talking about bush the whole time was hilarious.
On March 19 2010 03:44 TheFallofTroy wrote: This episode was really funny and I was laughing the whole time. The wizard alien coming out of nowhere and Butters talking about bush the whole time was hilarious.
You do realize that was the SWAT guy that spoke up, right?
On March 19 2010 03:44 TheFallofTroy wrote: This episode was really funny and I was laughing the whole time. The wizard alien coming out of nowhere and Butters talking about bush the whole time was hilarious.
You do realize that was the SWAT guy that spoke up, right?
On March 19 2010 03:44 TheFallofTroy wrote: This episode was really funny and I was laughing the whole time. The wizard alien coming out of nowhere and Butters talking about bush the whole time was hilarious.
Yeah it was the turd in the punch bowl that got killed
On March 18 2010 11:06 sc4k wrote: Here's hoping for (finally) a good season. South Park has been bollocks since season 10, because everything is topical, the jokes are far more blatant and uninventive, there is barely any original story-telling, the pacing and music are getting far far far too formulaic, and the general 'random and inventive' factor of South Park has dropped to about 1/10 from being 10/10 in seasons 3-8 + 10. Like I said, here's hoping for something different, even though with the first episode being directly topical I very much doubt anything good will come of it .
I couldn't agree more, took the words right out of my mouth.
RIP South Park
You guys do realize the more you watch the stronger the dose you need right? This is why many shows usually don't last a decade. It loses its touch.
I would like to see you write a show that lasts this long. You shouldn't expect anything different.
They use current events like The Simpsons to stay fresh. That's all it is.
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