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Poll: DreamHack Leipzig Major ChampionTeam Secret (20) 59% Evil Genisues (8) 24% Vici Gaming (6) 18% 34 total votes Your vote: DreamHack Leipzig Major Champion (Vote): Team Secret (Vote): Vici Gaming (Vote): Evil Genisues
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Puppey has been on the top of the Dota scene for such an insanely long time now
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This laning start is hilarious.
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Are they just going to rotate the 4 carries around the entire laning stage?
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Oh god they're still laneswapping.
Is this just fantasy?
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force staff is a useful item
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That snap pick AW didn't work out for VG, EG played a great game around him
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not sold on the brood pick tbh, but not sure what else they could have picked
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come on, VG got some of the best neutral items they could
bow for viper, keen for rubick, titan sliver for gyro
and that broken io combo with essence ring
icefrog pls
edit: AND NOW A QUIVER? ...
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Well damn, I never expected Arteezy to find that RP.
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RTZ actually winning the game?!
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VG heroes farm so fast, networth back to pre RP
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ggwp
io essence ring is stupid
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io ban next game incoming lul
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timeless relic ok, icefrog wants vg to win
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please just don't pick anything "stupid" VG and EG. don't wanna see a stomp g3 >.<
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Even if EG win this match, I hate now they approached this draft.
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On January 26 2020 21:57 HaXxorIzed wrote: Even if EG win this match, I hate now they approached this draft. yeah, what am I missing? they banned Io and picked AA first?
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They have so many instant dissables for anti storm and void, chrono unless you get rubick and ww it's going to be worthless (VG should know to keep them separated), and Storm will need to jump to WW and then magnus/rubick/doom can fuck him up real bad
hard to see how this works for EG
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On January 26 2020 21:59 Sloke wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2020 21:57 HaXxorIzed wrote: Even if EG win this match, I hate now they approached this draft. yeah, what am I missing? they banned Io and picked AA first? Didn't ban IO, counterpicked it with pick #1, and it never got picked.
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it's gonna be a long day for Abed, too many counters for him
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On January 26 2020 22:06 nuketurnal wrote: it's gonna be a long day for Abed, too many counters for him looks like abed is more than well off.
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dont know why but i really hate this VG draft, i think they got outpicked by EG
And now with their indecisive passiv plays
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Arteezy looks the most confident "playing to die" I've ever seen in his career, and so far it is working for EG.
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On January 26 2020 22:22 its_a_me wrote: dont know why but i really hate this VG draft, i think they got outpicked by EG
And now with their indecisive passiv plays
well they don't have any real hard carry and mag and puck seem kinda underwhelming till now. and someone on the panel said that EG should initiate and that's exactly what they are doing.
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i'm not sure what VG thought it was going to happen by getting so close together like that
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VG is choking on to the final with EG
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On January 26 2020 22:22 its_a_me wrote: dont know why but i really hate this VG draft, i think they got outpicked by EG
And now with their indecisive passiv plays
i think the draft basically needed them to play the first 10 minutes semi-right and they didnt, and now theyre in a really bad place
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that was the most obvious chrono - aa blast i've seen in my life besides roshan
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On January 26 2020 22:26 Faruko wrote: i'm not sure what VG thought it was going to happen by getting so close together like that truly the worst positioning. all cores get caught by chrono and storm finishes off the supports in the backline. if this goes on, rtz and abed will carry this no problem
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the draft was pretty good imo, but too passive and some incredibly bad decisions like that just one right now... they were pretty decently ahead early game overall and could have build something out of that
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the pos2 suits rtz so much better then farming afk for 30min.
@Faruko this is what i dont like about their draft, they forced a certain gameplay and then did something completely different. why did they suddendly play passiv and sake their cores one after another? but lets se game isnt over, but they need to become aktiv and use their ultis
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I liked VG's draft until the rubick, what happens to sven btw? is he too shit of a hero now to pick in that situation?
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On January 26 2020 22:22 Sloke wrote: looks like abed is more than well off.
kudos to him for being patient, while rtz and ramzes initiate/bait
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On January 26 2020 22:29 uthgard wrote: I liked VG's draft until the rubick, what happens to sven btw? is he too shit of a hero now to pick in that situation? hero is not in a good place because of all the tanky cores and good kiters there are right now
a lot of the most popular supports mitigate physical damage
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so what is the play for VG? if rtz catches 1 core + X storm will just jump on WW or rubick, ramzes will shield anyone, who gets CC'd and AA will secure the kills in chrono.
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why isn't VG trying a smoke around ramzes, when he is so obviously positioned in lane?
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damn, you know its over when a doomed void just outheals it while getting hit by your pos1 "carry" :X
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Satisfying to see this type of lineup get a win.
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wow i underestimated abed.. he didnt even need linkens/bkb
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game is over, EG looks a lot better with this dynamic between their cores
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I think EG can make it today:
Break the curse and take away the Leipzig Major!
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wtf is VG doing? lets pick an aggro snowball and play a passive sake game? I hate it when i get a good game denied. -.-
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was anti mage too bad of a pick ? they were going already kinda early game and it could have been a decent pick
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On January 26 2020 22:38 nuketurnal wrote: wow i underestimated abed.. he didnt even need linkens/bkb VG seemed completely passive the whole game apart from the early tower pushes. meanwhile abed and rtz had a free farm game and got multiple pick offs. pretty much a perfect game from EG
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VG killed themselves way more than EG won. 100 %
Secret's gonna win this major.
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On January 26 2020 22:41 PoulsenB wrote: curse is broken will rtz finally win a tournament? if even abed and ramzes aren't enough, what else? (obv rtz played more than solid himself)
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Papua New Guinea504 Posts
What pressure Vici got from organiser for second game vs EG? No agility hero at all? An Intel and a strength heroes as carry? For my limited knowledge about Dota 2, at least one of the carry is agility based.
Can juz walk away the game 2 and play game 3 directly.
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On January 26 2020 22:44 Kelefei2016 wrote: What pressure Vici got from organiser for second game vs EG? No agility hero at all? An Intel and a strength heroes as carry? For my limited knowledge about Dota 2, at least one of the carry is agility based.
Can juz walk away the game 2 and play game 3 directly. what?
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On January 26 2020 22:44 Kelefei2016 wrote: What pressure Vici got from organiser for second game vs EG? No agility hero at all? An Intel and a strength heroes as carry? For my limited knowledge about Dota 2, at least one of the carry is agility based.
Can juz walk away the game 2 and play game 3 directly. Hi, having an agility carry isn't required and a lot of teams manage fine without one VG didn't have a bad draft at all, but sometimes you lose and sometimes you win
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i just wanna say bukovel minor's production > leipzig major's
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On January 26 2020 23:14 nuketurnal wrote: i just wanna say bukovel minor's production > leipzig major's dreamleague has been unimpressive for a while now. but bukovel was better than many majors anyway.
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On January 26 2020 22:44 Kelefei2016 wrote: What pressure Vici got from organiser for second game vs EG? No agility hero at all? An Intel and a strength heroes as carry? For my limited knowledge about Dota 2, at least one of the carry is agility based.
Can juz walk away the game 2 and play game 3 directly.
magnus is a good dps, doesnt need to be an agi all the time
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Just wish to make yet another comment on one of the biggest problems with Dota as an Esports. 2h late finals compared to schedule. Quite hard for people with limited time to tune in.
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On January 26 2020 23:14 nuketurnal wrote: i just wanna say bukovel minor's production > leipzig major's I guess kinda? It feels just like the Dreamleague games from Stockholm(?) just that this is a tournament in Leipzig and you get so see a pro for 2minutes on stage. So yeah, no real "LAN" feeling sadly.
E: I mean Leipzig is certainly not an ugly city so some montages inbetween could've come a long way? I kinda liked it, when we saw some shots from shanghai and co since I'll probably will never be there.
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Pro: got up in time for the grand final Con: I voted for VG to win in the poll
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ramzes the boss, 2 couriers and tree under his tower
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haven't seen a team so disciplined as secret who wanna get a certain item - i guess - before any real engagement
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Damn, EG really bringing it.
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tree: the slowest rat push out there
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What a game by RAMZES
I think Nisha never used his ulti the whole game ?
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game was over the moment OD died on top, impressive draft and plays from EG, Ramzes mvp for sure.
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I think Secret just misread what to do in some way. Didn't respect the Doom at all until it was too late. EG could have meme thrown that game with no creeps to push with, so that was fun
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lmao ramzess can't do a single thing
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huh i actually made it to watch the finals lol
is notail still on the panel ? also god meepo last pick again
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Meepo rampageeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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damn nisha is such a beast
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Everytime i see a meepo it is either wiping the entire enemy team on the map or just it being a glorified creep that has atos
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someone call the police, there's a homicide just happened in Leipzig
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Secret is probably gonna run EG over soon but they still have to be careful. They are still losing heroes on the fights and if they make a mistake like just one teamwipe they are kinda fucked as EG cores scale alot better
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EG needs refresher on void.
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On January 27 2020 02:08 Sapaio wrote: EG needs refresher on void. this totally feels like the refresher + rapier game for void just go ultimate lategame carry mode then pick that chrono AOE
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it was a terrible void pick even before they picked him.
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HAHAHAHAHAHA LMAO THAT NET COMBO
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Watching a OD game like this, makes me feel it could might as well be pos 5 for the save is only thing he does.
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what is secret waiting for ? just finish the damn game
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Yeah EG def has to look out for those last pick shinanegans from Secret.
Secret usually picks alot of interrupts with a core that excels at something abit too much rather than a well balanced lineup .
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Does anybody know what the name of the K-Pop song is that they played in the interval? Super catchy...
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One thing I think I do like from production here is having the panel on stage for the draft.
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somehow, secret is ahead in farm
not sure how
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Abed storm is fucking scary yo
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i always forget that finger now scales
i think lion is pretty underpicked tbh, great support... not sure why he isn't picked more
or at least i haven't seen him much
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On January 27 2020 03:20 Faruko wrote: i always forget that finger now scales
i think lion is pretty underpicked tbh, great support... not sure why he isn't picked more
or at least i haven't seen him much Lich, wyvern, treant and even shadow shaman are better than him as of the moment. (other highest picked supports have saves and even SS has better overall utility with the ult and double disable)
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That's a pretty good explanation, i love SS, Lion and Lich, so happy to see any of the 3
Lich was my first ever hero i played, i have a special place in my heart for him
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That tp reminds too much of how I play naga.
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jesus christ what a fuck up by rtz
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Man, that is a great match!
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I mean god damn, abed got literally every power rune? even more so impressive, that secret can keep up until now
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secret farming is something else
how after that fight, gold difference is so small
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nisha is, for some reason, getting caught in the most random places after fights
he gets too greedy
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That was even for so long and then EG just ran away with it.
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wow i thought EG lost when rtz got caught midgame so i switched out lol
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abed always prioritizing his aghanims, definitely paying dividends
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On January 27 2020 03:54 nuketurnal wrote: abed always prioritizing his aghanims, definitely paying dividends Low cd AOE stun is pretty great especially when the hero doing it has the best ingame mobility. I think in most games aghs storm is useful (tho not just rushed all the time)
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That Aegis they got was game deciding. Storm aegis taking the fight into two sides of rax and game over.
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Another arteezy slark. EG plays pretty slowly with him on that hero. Should've just picked gyro(tho they are gonna have problems against morphling more with that)
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On January 27 2020 04:27 goody153 wrote: Another arteezy slark. EG plays pretty slowly with him on that hero. Should've just picked gyro(tho they are gonna have problems against morphling more with that)
Huskar would have been nice as well as a tempo hero and trying to finish it up.
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Unless you're an EG fan you want a G5 here, right?
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On January 27 2020 04:27 Yurie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2020 04:27 goody153 wrote: Another arteezy slark. EG plays pretty slowly with him on that hero. Should've just picked gyro(tho they are gonna have problems against morphling more with that) Huskar would have been nice as well as a tempo hero and trying to finish it up. That is another great option here too. Leshrac and morph gets fucked by huskar most of the game(i think it was banned tho) even viper is another good arteezy hero for this game
Not a fan of slark vs leshrac
On January 27 2020 04:28 VGhost wrote: Unless you're an EG fan you want a G5 here, right? Yeah i think EG probably wins this game tho
If TA and Batrider gets a decent start then Secret will have big problems midgame
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EG might be too slow with this lineup. Though only happens if bat gets crushed and opposite looks to be happening.
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Morph with 0.16 last hits per wave. Saved by a wave under tower.
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On January 27 2020 04:31 Yurie wrote: EG might be too slow with this lineup. Though only happens if bat gets crushed and opposite looks to be happening. Think if TA and Bat gets a good start then EG shouldn't have much issues midgame. I still don't like this slark pick tho
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Matumbaman morph is sooo fucked like 7 cs in 5 minutes
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Charlie Sheens House51462 Posts
We are 1 game away from an RTC MAJOR WIN. I AM SO HYPED!!
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was storm banned ? this looks another great abed storm game too
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Charlie Sheens House51462 Posts
Yes Secret moved to ban Storm in first 3 bans that is why Wisp got through haha
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Oh no looks like EG has no answer for the lesh/ench for the next like 10 minutes. Think they are fucked
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I don't like EG's chances playing this draft from here.
Needing 3 and 4 heroes to get pick-offs is a problem.
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With how well Leshrac did in the last game, it seems bizzare EG seemingly gave it no respect here.
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EG just loses the game whenever they do this dodge&farm thing. Last game they did relatively well when they ramped up their gameplay and just fought fought fought
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ench is the funniest hero to watch
a happy pony death march lol
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Charlie Sheens House51462 Posts
EG showing signs of life now, just too little to late, took way to long to get these BKBs. Come on EG!
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Charlie Sheens House51462 Posts
Ok no probs, game 5 lets go!
COME ON EG, fix the draft lets get this major!
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Bat item build was game losing. Travels into bkb when he is the only initiator on the team.
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Charlie Sheens House51462 Posts
I am still very happy with EG, they have managed to build themselves into a major finals, that is a first for a very long time. Add in they were in the grandfinals in the previous tournament (a non major) and followed it up again with a grandfinals is impressive, could this be the year!
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On January 27 2020 05:10 Pandemona wrote: I am still very happy with EG, they have managed to build themselves into a major finals, that is a first for a very long time. Add in they were in the grandfinals in the previous tournament (a non major) and followed it up again with a grandfinals is impressive, could this be the year!
Well if they've improved from 3 to 2 probably gotta wait another year.
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Charlie Sheens House51462 Posts
Its more than 3 to 2 though technically
1st major this season they got 4th, then second tourney they played got to grand finals from winners bracket to lose 3-0 to vici gaming, then this major their 3rd tournament they got to grand finals again and finally beating Vici Gaming after going 0-5 vs them in the last few weeks. Now they're going toe to toe vs Secret which pretty impressive.
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Charlie Sheens House51462 Posts
Lets get the boys some Monster!!! Game 8 for EG of the day and 12th hour of Dota begins
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puppey looks actually super stressed, fly looks fairly chill in comparison
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somebody tune that guitar pls
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Charlie Sheens House51462 Posts
Need big plays from Ramzes this game i feel, the last underlord he played was awful haha, so we need him to have a good game on this hero and take EG into mid game with him on top.
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Secret is running away with this game
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What an uninspired way for EG to lose game 5 if this keeps up. Secret laughing all the way to the bank.
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to times in a row, outfdrafted and then outplayed.
go matu!
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Secret 3 outdrafts > EG 1 outdraft, 1 outplay
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GG, grats Secret. Glad this grand final went to a game 5
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Charlie Sheens House51462 Posts
Ahhh well, improvement is there just not enough in that mammoth game 8 of the day for EG.
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GG Secret, easily best team this tournament.
not there yet EG, at least rtz finally managed to reach valve event grand final
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Glad for Matu. He finally got the love he deserved. Well done except for game 3 all games were pretty onsided.
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EG did way more than i expected, but Secret were clearly the best this tournament. GGs
Matu washed up...
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Salty matu but still nice. Really happy for him, he's a very unique player in the way he approaches his role, reminds me a bit of loda in a way.
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So happy for matu. I still don't understand why kuro and co had to force him mid when miracle is so much better there.
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not to make an excuse, but eg prolly have been exhausted, especially mentally. they had what, 8 games?
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On January 27 2020 14:35 virtus.NS wrote: not to make an excuse, but eg prolly have been exhausted, especially mentally. they had what, 8 games? That's the problem with double elimination, make it normal brackets and you fix that
You could either go F on a single day or do SF and F on the last day
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I think it's fair that the upper bracket winner gets an advantage over the lower bracket winner
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Papua New Guinea504 Posts
The only hero Abed knows how to use is storm... The rest are ugly bad
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EG lost because they selected storm in 3rd game. The should sacrifice storm in 3rd game by not picking storm in 3rd game, storm should be reserved in 4th game. Because EG picked storm in 3rd game and rendered Secret banned storm in 4th and 5th games and basically killed Abed.
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