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Both alliance and liquid looks to be in a good mood (cool shakehands of insania and fata too)
Draft about to begin
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Ex Alliance vs New Alliance part 18
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even drafts for both teams
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Spicy draft overall for both teams. Lots of teamfight and both teams have decent answer to the opponent strength.
Alliance has a easier lineup to play tho
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Lmao living by the random chain frost bounces
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16 minute eblade on micke morphling jesus
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crazy, because mag hit morph with empower the creeps around morph died and lich ulti couldn't bounce enough to kill morph :X
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This rush eblade is fucking brilliant.
And liquid won the last exchange with everybody dying since their cores didnt die
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that aegis steal is great but that was on liquid for playing conservatively and not checking rosh for that hawk
they shouldve expected that
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So, is this Morphling gonna morph into an Aghs Willow?
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On January 25 2020 19:21 Ej_ wrote: So, is this Morphling gonna morph into an Aghs Willow? Willow who has not much damage already shit ton with aghs.
I believe if liquid survives long enough we are gonna see a combination of slark+sniper+clinkz arrow.
He is gonna few shot some heroes really fast. The saving grace for alliance tho is they have magnus+BM to catch to morph
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Ok liquid are playing hesitantly against a gyro+magnus+wisp which melts heroes really fast.
Good news tho is that morph+willow will eventually outcarry alliance so long as liquid realizes they just need to lotus orb to remove catch on morphling
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Idk why they think Liquid had the lack of damage that is still a decently farmed morph with aghs that can copy willow
Liquid just needs to do the jump instead of getting jumped.
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This IO crazy heals will not keep people alive long enough
idk why mars is going for radiance this late of the game it doesnt do much anymore like just buy spirit vessel or lotus orb something that directly helps against alliance
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That was a really good ult from Mars wow
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Bit confused tuning i to this game, what pick was BM? So many counters.
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On January 25 2020 19:35 Sapaio wrote: Bit confused tuning i to this game, what pick was BM? So many counters. BM is mostly picked for vision, map control and lane control. And his roar catch is mostly a bonus
Not really for the roar alone
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I meant brood Mother. All the alliance cores kill siders.
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This Io is now harder to kill than the Alliance cores...
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On January 25 2020 19:41 Ej_ wrote: This Io is now harder to kill than the Alliance cores...
Once he gets satanic and the spam attacks from gyro he gets really hard to kill.
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This is probably the closest game we have this tournament and this tournament had had so many 50+ minutes game
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On January 25 2020 19:42 Yurie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2020 19:41 Ej_ wrote: This Io is now harder to kill than the Alliance cores... Once he gets satanic and the spam attacks from gyro he gets really hard to kill. Wish somebody on liquid just decided to buy vessel tbh. It helps alot
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On January 25 2020 19:45 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2020 19:42 Yurie wrote:On January 25 2020 19:41 Ej_ wrote: This Io is now harder to kill than the Alliance cores... Once he gets satanic and the spam attacks from gyro he gets really hard to kill. Wish somebody on liquid just decided to buy vessel tbh. It helps alot Taiga has had it for a long while now.
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Holy fuck Morphling copying willow is nuts.
It may not have ES-morph mobility but it is basically a lowcd slark now
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On January 25 2020 19:47 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2020 19:45 goody153 wrote:On January 25 2020 19:42 Yurie wrote:On January 25 2020 19:41 Ej_ wrote: This Io is now harder to kill than the Alliance cores... Once he gets satanic and the spam attacks from gyro he gets really hard to kill. Wish somebody on liquid just decided to buy vessel tbh. It helps alot Taiga has had it for a long while now. I havent seen it used tbh lol Tho IO is prolly making it hard to vessel
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ok micke wouldve never died there if he didnt like morph midfight lol
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ok qoqjva you lost the game, nice buyback lol
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Rapier seems like game winning choice
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On January 25 2020 19:50 Sapaio wrote: Rapier seems like game winning choice Isn't it every game on this hero?
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the fuck was that buyback micke lol that was just 9 seconds and gyro didnt even back off when he bb'd
liquid should just ban IO they have trouble dealing with it looking at how alliance plays it
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On January 25 2020 19:51 Ej_ wrote:Isn't it every game on this hero? Kinda liking how rapiers are approached in progames nowadays. It isnt brought as a last desperation most of the time anymore but i have seen games where it is brought to push the advantage like what Fnatic did in one of the group stages games
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On January 25 2020 19:51 goody153 wrote: the fuck was that buyback micke lol that was just 9 seconds and gyro didnt even back off when he bb'd
liquid should just ban IO they have trouble dealing with it looking at how alliance plays it
With other neutral items that might not have been a loss for Liquid. IO got great ones.
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I'm still undecided on neutral items but the new rapier is great
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On January 25 2020 20:00 Yurie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2020 19:51 goody153 wrote: the fuck was that buyback micke lol that was just 9 seconds and gyro didnt even back off when he bb'd
liquid should just ban IO they have trouble dealing with it looking at how alliance plays it With other neutral items that might not have been a loss for Liquid. IO got great ones. Yeah. IO got that one that like gives him hp and heals. That shit was broken.
On January 25 2020 20:02 uthgard wrote: I'm still undecided on neutral items but the new rapier is great The rapier pickup was indeed great.
I think neutral items are fun but the current way of implementing it is imbalanced and broken. It can completely tip the scales of the game and it has happened many timed already.
I think Icefrog needs to put more flaws on the neutral items (like how craggy armor has minus attackspeed) like in all of them if he is not gonna change the implementation of it
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Yup liquid lost. They gave IO gyro again last game which they couldnt stop even when their heroes had lots of tools.
And AA is a superslow support
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Would pick Blood seeker for Alliance
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so what's is actually the thought behind not banning a hero you more or less just lost to? so you can guarantee that they will play the same and you can come up with a draft mostly before the game even began? or does liquid deem ench, puck and tiny more ban-worthy or harder to handle than io + X?
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Liquid think AA will counters IO.
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On January 25 2020 20:18 Sloke wrote: so what's is actually the thought behind not banning a hero you more or less just lost to? so you can guarantee that they will play the same and you can come up with a draft mostly before the game even began? or does liquid deem ench, puck and tiny more ban-worthy or harder to handle than io + X?
They think they have a good idea on how to beat it. While they might not have a strat lined up against the other ones, even if they are weaker on paper.
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Razor is interesting way to deal with IO. As he just become stronger during IO sustain.
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am I crazy or why does the coin effect when last hitting a creep/hero look like small gold nuggets on radiant (at least wiht omni and lina)?
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On January 25 2020 20:36 Sloke wrote: am I crazy or why does the coin effect when last hitting a creep/hero look like small gold nuggets on radiant (at least wiht omni and lina)?
Sounds like hang over craving.
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has anyone played carry Tiny this tournament?
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On January 25 2020 20:15 goody153 wrote: Yup liquid lost. They gave IO gyro again last game which they couldnt stop even when their heroes had lots of tools.
And AA is a superslow support well how wrong i was
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On January 25 2020 21:06 PoulsenB wrote: has anyone played carry Tiny this tournament? I have only seen 4 position tiny's this tournament. Is tiny 1 pos dead ?
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On January 25 2020 21:38 PoulsenB wrote: that chain frost lul
$_$
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I think liquid can go early mkb on both viper and drow. That would melt everybody on alliance as basically they have naturally fragile heroes (doom isn't very tanky despite the scortched earth with his naturally low armor)
And slardar amplify will fuck them the longer the game goes
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Disaster by liquid just when they had a sneak rosh
edit: lmao liquid just fed diebacks after getting secret aegis rosh
they should've just backed lol
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rofl HAHAHAHA what a disaster
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On January 25 2020 21:38 PoulsenB wrote: that chain frost lul #2 :D
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EG vs Aliance it looks like!
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On January 25 2020 21:49 Pandemona wrote: EG vs Aliance it looks like! I think liquid is actually a better matchup against EG (like they had more fun games) tho alliance seems to be the better team
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Well liquid top 6 again on a major. Sounds like a good run to me and looking at how they played this series it was pretty close so they could've easily been top 4.
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Alliance should be careful still. This is still a drow-viper lineup they start overextending abit too much the entire lineup will just die
edit: not necessary apparently
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That game was just painful to watch after the Rosh fight. Liquid seemed to lose any sense of team coordination.
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Vatican City State1573 Posts
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I really dislike drafts that only has one hero doing the real damage while the rest are saves and support. Drow isn't also the biggest damage dealer (yes there is puck but if drow dies puck can't do it alone)
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zai was constantly in drows face so she was just running around even while bkb'd
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Strange seeing secret Monkey King and it's not Midone.
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I don't really see how VG will get multiple pickoffs in a row because in a straight up teamfight secret has multiple tools to initiate and to counter initiate
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I would say rapier drow. But just the Monkey King that can surprice it.
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classic secret not banning IO, against VG they will probably regret this.
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On January 25 2020 23:55 uthgard wrote: classic secret not banning IO, against VG they will probably regret this. LOL. Did they ban Drow in the first game? No. Did they win against her? Easilly  NEXT!
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Void buffed by lich and mag, save with WW and Chaos created by pango. I say Secret got this.
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Ok this game is over at 10min mark.
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VG has a such strong draft and laning
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what was yang thinking lol
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this game is looking a bit over in favor of Secret tbh, VG had a big lead and blew it, now can't fight anymore because of all the big spells Secret have.
this is looking like an easy 2-0
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this is disappointing by VG
great draft and lane but really passive play completely playing scared all game on advantage for some reason
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VG looks incredibly awful this series
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Ori realized they should not be winning this game so he goes and does that.
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On January 26 2020 00:38 Faruko wrote: VG looks incredibly awful this series They were playing like amateurs scared of secret tbh. Not like playing themselves like normal like seriously all their drafts wasn't even bad even game 2 draft looked stronger than secret but they just went full rtz midgame like everybody just farmed lol
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impressive clean play all around by Secret. VG really should've done better that game 2 tho, it was their game to lose.
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Sad Panda: HAHA! It was I, NoTail the whole time!
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Notail on Dreamleague huh
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From the number of thread I know Secret won the upper bracket final.
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Such nice surge plays. Using lifestealer and tiny well.
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wow alliance just ran through EG as if they never had the advantage the entire game
decisively too
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On January 26 2020 02:13 Faruko wrote: ramzesss... they either use all their spells on ramzes or they are not killing him even with naix hitting him for a good minute
at least till naix gets more items
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why is mindbreaker on fata instead of yaknow naix or puck which are better hitters
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enchanted quiver, drow or ta (to add to meld strike)
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treant is a bullshit hero, and all teams are letting him through the bans
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nikkobaby should stop trying to hit timber lol
On January 26 2020 02:23 Faruko wrote: treant is a bullshit hero, and all teams are letting him through the bans Idk treant seems dealable tbh i found lich stronger.
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EG are slowly choking Alliance out of the game
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On January 26 2020 02:25 PoulsenB wrote: EG are slowly choking Alliance out of the game Alliance lost their window but they were doing relatively well after coming back from the laning stage.
They allowed TA and drow to just free farm after for some reason trying to kill timber obviously just baiting attention for his other teammates can farm freely
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On January 26 2020 02:24 goody153 wrote:nikkobaby should stop trying to hit timber lol Show nested quote +On January 26 2020 02:23 Faruko wrote: treant is a bullshit hero, and all teams are letting him through the bans Idk treant seems dealable tbh i found lich stronger. the amor is super stupid, and that new skill is too strong
and i agree, lich is also super strong too, not sure stronger than treant tbh
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Very methodical approach by EG, well played
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Alliance's movement and decision seems off, EG is not playing super clean but I think they can easily take the series
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On January 26 2020 02:36 ASoo wrote: (yodeling techno?) I love it lul
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who else thinks that draw, lich, tiny and maybe io will get a heavy nerf after this major?
oh, i forgot disruptor
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holy shit how bad is alliance man at least kill void there and dont turn around and let him chrono you
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