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[ESL] 2018 Birmingham Major - Group Stage Day 2

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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-24 07:42:59
May 23 2018 21:36 GMT
#1

ESL


Thursday, May 24 8:30am GMT (GMT+00:00)

(Wiki)ESL One/Birmingham/2018

Streams


ESL Multi PoV | Facebook

Format

  • The group stage will be played on May 23rd and 24th
  • All games are played backstage
  • Three GSL groups of four teams each
  • Bottom two teams from each group are eliminated, Runner-ups advance to the quarterfinals
  • The three first place teams play additional Bo1 matches against each other to determine which two teams advance to the semi-finals and which team joins the three runner-ups in the quarter-finals

Teams!



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Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
May 23 2018 23:26 GMT
#2
so it's the second-place decider matches as well as the first-place decider matches? running parallel to each other?
but then day 3 games are JUST the quarterfinals? sure.

anyhow, my bets are Spirit, Liquid, Mineski, and OG in the quarters. Fnatic out, Pain out, LFY out. OG aren't good enough to beat VP and I think Optic have much better execution. excited for this ridiculous group stage format to end.
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arghyad1
Profile Joined April 2018
India243 Posts
May 24 2018 00:21 GMT
#3
On May 24 2018 08:26 Nocticate wrote:
so it's the second-place decider matches as well as the first-place decider matches? running parallel to each other?
but then day 3 games are JUST the quarterfinals? sure.

anyhow, my bets are Spirit, Liquid, Mineski, and OG in the quarters. Fnatic out, Pain out, LFY out. OG aren't good enough to beat VP and I think Optic have much better execution. excited for this ridiculous group stage format to end.


I think they could have kept all matches as BO3-s given the amount of time they will have. Friday & Saturday there will be just 2 BO3 games on each day.

But still I am ok with this compared to the swiss format that was tried out earlier this season. The opening matches' match-ups also seem to make sense considering the achievements of the teams this season.

I am expecting Fnatic, OG, Liquid & Mineski to end up in quarter finals after today. So this draw can give us VP vs Liquid before the grand finals..?
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GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
May 24 2018 03:14 GMT
#4
Let's freaking go, Illidan! I've waited two years for your return!
NO MORE CHEN NERFS!!!
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
May 24 2018 05:41 GMT
#5
Why do I feel like Fnatic is gonna get 2-0ed
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Nomad115
Profile Joined March 2018
42 Posts
May 24 2018 06:46 GMT
#6
So when are EG playing or are they already through to the playoffs?
Fear he who fears nothing
Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2433 Posts
May 24 2018 06:53 GMT
#7
On May 24 2018 15:46 Nomad115 wrote:
So when are EG playing or are they already through to the playoffs?

the groupstage for the supermajor begins june 2nd.
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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
May 24 2018 06:54 GMT
#8
I love how EternalEnvy keeps getting tipped at the end of the games >D
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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4178 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-24 07:19:09
May 24 2018 07:18 GMT
#9
I believe in Fnatic!
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 24 2018 07:44 GMT
#10
So basically what is going to happen here is Liquid are going to play one of the teams who finished first who drop into quarter final stage. That team will be Optic who will then lose to Liquid and get 0 points and PPD will go ape shite on twitter and never go to an ESL event again.
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babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-24 08:42:37
May 24 2018 08:41 GMT
#11
On May 24 2018 16:44 Pandemona wrote:
So basically what is going to happen here is Liquid are going to play one of the teams who finished first who drop into quarter final stage. That team will be Optic who will then lose to Liquid and get 0 points and PPD will go ape shite on twitter and never go to an ESL event again.

Only way for Optic to qualify for TI is to get first in this major. All or nothing. Can't really complain much about bracket luck since technically the best team should be able to win anyone.

He can still complain about the lack of loser bracket in playoffs though
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 24 2018 10:05 GMT
#12
I know ppl love twitch and what not , but that stream quality is AMAZING , high quality no lags , too bad it hurts their viewership so much.
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 24 2018 10:06 GMT
#13
On May 24 2018 17:41 babysimba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2018 16:44 Pandemona wrote:
So basically what is going to happen here is Liquid are going to play one of the teams who finished first who drop into quarter final stage. That team will be Optic who will then lose to Liquid and get 0 points and PPD will go ape shite on twitter and never go to an ESL event again.

Only way for Optic to qualify for TI is to get first in this major. All or nothing. Can't really complain much about bracket luck since technically the best team should be able to win anyone.

He can still complain about the lack of loser bracket in playoffs though


No losers is better for PPD , Optic are NOT the best team in this ESL so they will benefit less from a lower bracket.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 24 2018 10:14 GMT
#14
On May 24 2018 17:41 babysimba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2018 16:44 Pandemona wrote:
So basically what is going to happen here is Liquid are going to play one of the teams who finished first who drop into quarter final stage. That team will be Optic who will then lose to Liquid and get 0 points and PPD will go ape shite on twitter and never go to an ESL event again.

Only way for Optic to qualify for TI is to get first in this major. All or nothing. Can't really complain much about bracket luck since technically the best team should be able to win anyone.

He can still complain about the lack of loser bracket in playoffs though


Dota has some pretty heavy match-up variance, which means some teams will be relatively stronger against others regardless of overall skill. So even the best team at a tournament has maybe a 50% chance of winning it.

Optic got the "bad' luck this season. Slack's draws at Bucharest has dictated more of the results of the DPC than people want to admit right now, lol. Optic also lost a major they qualified for because it stopped being a Major.

At some level, you just have to win your matches, but they ran into VP in two separate Majors that VP won. They've been, at points, about the #4 to #7 best team in the scene and got the least amount of points for it. ppd has some right to be annoyed with this season's DPC system.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
May 24 2018 10:27 GMT
#15
Reposting this for those who struggle with this year facebook's stream:
https://esl.atx.sx/#
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
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Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
May 24 2018 10:42 GMT
#16
OG got manhandled
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Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
May 24 2018 11:09 GMT
#17
On May 24 2018 09:21 arghyad1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2018 08:26 Nocticate wrote:
so it's the second-place decider matches as well as the first-place decider matches? running parallel to each other?
but then day 3 games are JUST the quarterfinals? sure.

anyhow, my bets are Spirit, Liquid, Mineski, and OG in the quarters. Fnatic out, Pain out, LFY out. OG aren't good enough to beat VP and I think Optic have much better execution. excited for this ridiculous group stage format to end.


I think they could have kept all matches as BO3-s given the amount of time they will have. Friday & Saturday there will be just 2 BO3 games on each day.

But still I am ok with this compared to the swiss format that was tried out earlier this season. The opening matches' match-ups also seem to make sense considering the achievements of the teams this season.

I am expecting Fnatic, OG, Liquid & Mineski to end up in quarter finals after today. So this draw can give us VP vs Liquid before the grand finals..?

Bucharest Swiss format is the only reason VP is in the top 8 DPC
-Terran-
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
May 24 2018 11:14 GMT
#18
I haven't done the math yet, but I'm pretty sure a double elim 12 teams bracket would have around the same number of games as this bizarre format. But of course, it couldn't work with 12 teams unless you seed 4 teams https://challonge.com/fr/tournaments/bracket_generator?ref=Zx0M3QbYTe
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 24 2018 11:21 GMT
#19
I'm not quite sure what this draft is from Optic, but, we'll see.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 24 2018 11:28 GMT
#20
VP should look for a Mercedes sponsorship, at this point.
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