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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
March 11 2018 12:47 GMT
#41
Solution for VGJ is to remove one of Tusk or Disruptor.
And probably not having an offlaner that does nothing at all.
The Bomber boy
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
March 11 2018 12:47 GMT
#42
Noone really seems to like the camera, haha. He's just like 'ye, I know another boring Gyro game'
super gg
midou
Profile Joined April 2008
Bulgaria1168 Posts
March 11 2018 12:48 GMT
#43
The plow has been activated!
Guys don't try to analyze meta and stuff, VP are just on another level.
Snakesneaks
Profile Joined February 2013
Italy2652 Posts
March 11 2018 12:49 GMT
#44
i will be extremely mad if VGJT keep being second place for the rest of season but eventually wininng TI
Otacon : Snake, Snake, Snaaaaakkkkeeeeeeeeeee..............
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
March 11 2018 12:49 GMT
#45
On March 11 2018 21:45 spudde123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2018 21:41 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On March 11 2018 21:37 spudde123 wrote:
VGJT really doesn't seem to have any space to do anything. Always feels like VP heroes are wrapping around behind them whenever they try to farm a lane


VP is mass warding starting around 10 minutes. The entire point is to take all of the team fights from 10 min to 20 min, which they can then snowball to a victory.


It's not only that but they also have a really good understanding of what they can do when they show a hero pushing a lane themselves and how they should move with the other heroes to cut the enemy off. For example they have Jugg pushing mid lane to the T2 but the other heroes are moving really deep to catch VGJT if they try to take even one wave on some other lane


It's not only that, but it's the change VP has made in this Meta to get a decisive advantage. They're also rotating most of the team any time there is a gank attempt, as they have so much of the map visible that they know where the other team is the entire time. VP should have lost Game 2 against Optic and Game 3 against Liquid, but the warding to setup their movement allowed them to come back really hard.

However, there isn't an easy counter, unless the Offlaner goes 2nd item Gem.
brinepumps
Profile Joined February 2015
Indonesia753 Posts
March 11 2018 12:50 GMT
#46
How do you ban against VP.
Terrorblade, Gyro, DP,Sandking,Disruptor,Chen,Kunkka.
"if you don't believe you can do it, then you have no chance at all" - Arsene Wenger
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
March 11 2018 12:51 GMT
#47
I think VP win the second game now, in the third they do some stupid clowny shit draft and lose. And then they win the last one.
super gg
bigbadchen
Profile Joined July 2017
53 Posts
March 11 2018 12:52 GMT
#48
Liquid should learn a thing or two from VP. They had aegis and they knew they were ahead. They still kept pushing with ageis juggy at the front but they did not overextend even willing to let the aegis expired but they did still pressure the opponents.
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-11 12:53:58
March 11 2018 12:53 GMT
#49
On March 11 2018 21:52 bigbadchen wrote:
Liquid should learn a thing or two from VP. They had aegis and they knew they were ahead. They still kept pushing with ageis juggy at the front but they did not overextend even willing to let the aegis expired but they did still pressure the opponents.

random liquid comment has appeared
-Terran-
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-11 12:58:52
March 11 2018 12:58 GMT
#50
On March 11 2018 21:51 cecek wrote:
I think VP win the second game now, in the third they do some stupid clowny shit draft and lose. And then they win the last one.

Haha yeah sounds like VP.
On March 11 2018 21:52 bigbadchen wrote:
Liquid should learn a thing or two from VP. They had aegis and they knew they were ahead. They still kept pushing with ageis juggy at the front but they did not overextend even willing to let the aegis expired but they did still pressure the opponents.

You can't really say that because not so long ago Liquid was another level team, and VP were known as Virtus.Throw because they had amazing early - mid game in almost every game and managed to throw their advantage by overextending.

Although I am very impressed by new Virtus.Pro, ever since Rodjer got in the team, they are still playing that aggressive style that they are loved for but can play very patient game when it is needed.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
March 11 2018 13:12 GMT
#51
TB has to go base, because the courier snipe. that's rough.
super gg
Nymzee
Profile Joined June 2013
3929 Posts
March 11 2018 13:20 GMT
#52
i swear zyori just says words because they sound good and have no relevance to the game he's "casting"
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3260 Posts
March 11 2018 13:21 GMT
#53
damn nice spur of the moment thinking by ramzes.
low gravity, yes-yes!
pellejohnson
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1931 Posts
March 11 2018 13:21 GMT
#54
On March 11 2018 22:20 Nymzee wrote:
i swear zyori just says words because they sound good and have no relevance to the game he's "casting"


Agree! Not sure why people complain about Maut when they have zyori casting...
Snakesneaks
Profile Joined February 2013
Italy2652 Posts
March 11 2018 13:22 GMT
#55
so morph is now rubick with physical dps and better skills inventory ?
Otacon : Snake, Snake, Snaaaaakkkkeeeeeeeeeee..............
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
March 11 2018 13:25 GMT
#56
Damn, didn't think about it, but Morph has so many good targets for ulti here, like all of enemy heroes are amazing. He doesn't even need EBlade, just Morph Pugna, use Decrep + Blast, change to Morph and disintegrate someone. Disruptor for easy Glimpse + Kinetic Field, DK to lower TBs damage and 3 sec stun, ET for lowering TB's armor to 0, and TB for counter Reflection, that also provides his team with ET's aura, it's really good actually.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
March 11 2018 13:27 GMT
#57
VP are so freaking good... picking Rodjer was the missing piece to make them an unstoppable juggernaut
The Real Power~
its_a_me
Profile Joined June 2016
Austria612 Posts
March 11 2018 13:35 GMT
#58
so a quick 3:0
Snakesneaks
Profile Joined February 2013
Italy2652 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-11 13:35:45
March 11 2018 13:35 GMT
#59
definite 3-0. vgjt's mental fortitude is as strong as goldfish.
Otacon : Snake, Snake, Snaaaaakkkkeeeeeeeeeee..............
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
March 11 2018 13:35 GMT
#60
that was such a bad fight i cant believe vgj beat newbee.
The Bomber boy
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