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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
February 21 2018 17:28 GMT
#121
optic getting very rekt
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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-21 17:32:46
February 21 2018 17:31 GMT
#122
Storm did quite a lot of work with KotL giving him mana early on but he can't kill people when Kinguin gets to their group up phase and Storm doesn't have BKB yet (and he wasn't even going for it next). Also the Naix never became any sort of a threat to anyone. Not sure if Fnatic could have done anything differently in the lanes to help him early on, probably not because Brew and Storm both needed help.

This sort of 5 man lineup is sort of exactly what springs to mind when I think of Kinguin at least. Before they've done it also with some Tide, Ogre+Dusa etc
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
February 21 2018 17:32 GMT
#123
I thought Storm would snowball to victory but LD and DK too strong
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
February 21 2018 17:34 GMT
#124
On February 22 2018 02:31 spudde123 wrote:
Storm did quite a lot of work with KotL giving him mana early on but he can't kill people when Kinguin gets to their group up phase and Storm doesn't have BKB yet (and he wasn't even going for it next). Also the Naix never became any sort of a threat to anyone. Not sure if Fnatic could have done anything differently in the lanes to help him early on, probably not because Brew and Storm both needed help.

This sort of 5 man lineup is sort of exactly what springs to mind when I think of Kinguin at least. Before they've done it also with some Tide, Ogre+Dusa etc


You have to slightly sack Brew in that scenario. LS already does poorly against DK and Abaddon, and he's all but useless versus them when behind in farm.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
February 21 2018 17:36 GMT
#125
Liquid is at least two tiers above OpTic, this game isn't even close
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
midou
Profile Joined April 2008
Bulgaria1168 Posts
February 21 2018 17:38 GMT
#126
Best team in the world meets a T2 team. Draft analysis is meaningless.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
February 21 2018 17:38 GMT
#127
"And this game is well and truly Secret's"

Nice closing words by Tobi there lul
super gg
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
February 21 2018 17:42 GMT
#128
We'll see how the rest of the draft goes but I like that Fnatic took Warlock so they are guaranteed an easier 5v5 teamfight in his game
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
February 21 2018 17:43 GMT
#129
I like Fnatic's support duo here, plus they're banning out the tankier cores on Kinguin's side
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
February 21 2018 17:45 GMT
#130
Fnatic is really going in on this teamfight, plus they banned all three cores they lost to last game lol
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
February 21 2018 17:49 GMT
#131
I think Fnatic wins this game pretty convincingly, although Kinguin can probably burst down any one member of Fnatic at most points in the game once Beastmaster gets necro
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
February 21 2018 17:53 GMT
#132
Beastmaster trying to dodge the Tide 1v1, Tide just follows him around -> PLD has a 1v0 lane bottom for the first minute lol
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-21 17:56:07
February 21 2018 17:55 GMT
#133
I really don't like that Fnatic's doing aggro tri, Clock should be romaing around to get stuff done, but at least Uni's doing really well. They really need to help out Abed though
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
February 21 2018 17:59 GMT
#134
This game's not looking good for Fnatic
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
February 21 2018 18:01 GMT
#135
And they left Abed alone against Tiny, that is 45/19 against OD's 28/5 in CS. You can't leave any hero alone against Tiny.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
February 21 2018 18:02 GMT
#136
Uni rushing greaves is the right call, they desperately need thee sustain
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
February 21 2018 18:03 GMT
#137
And the courier had Uni's mek on there, good lord
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-21 18:07:35
February 21 2018 18:07 GMT
#138
DJ has been doing work after getting 6

Fnatic's teamfight is so good that I think they will eventually take this
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
February 21 2018 18:08 GMT
#139
Now that the teamfight is up, Fnatic desperately need some towers
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
February 21 2018 18:09 GMT
#140
On February 22 2018 03:08 plasmidghost wrote:
Now that the teamfight is up, Fnatic desperately need some towers


Their push isn't that fast and Kinguin has good heroes to draw the creeps away. It's not that easy for Fnatic to just run at towers.
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