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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On August 12 2017 01:12 FuzzyJAM wrote: I'm not entirely sure and I don't know how to word my guess. I think a lot of it is that they win through strategy more than play. I'd say it's because one-shotting creep waves from complete safety is a dull way of stalling the game. 700 damage from 2200 range and all. | ||
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Tobon
United States372 Posts
On August 12 2017 01:12 FuzzyJAM wrote: I think a lot of it is that they win through strategy more than play. Ah, ok. I don't feel the same way, but I think I can understand where you are coming from. Sort of a draft win vs. even match where team fight reactions make the difference? Personally I've always been a huge fan of old Alliance / C9 style split push strats and really enjoy games where people win by out thinking instead of out fighting, so I love Liquid's style. | ||
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GOHF
United States1864 Posts
Among the Chinese teams, I'm actually liking Newbee the most. Mainly because Kaka and Sccc are super baller and I kinda want Faith to shatter these this "never had a repeat winner" line and to otherwise deconstruct this "western team wins odd year" superstition. | ||
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Kamisamanachi
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Yurie
12004 Posts
On August 12 2017 01:46 Kamisamanachi wrote: New hero when? Probably as part of Act 2 of Siltbreaker after TI. | ||
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
On August 12 2017 01:50 Yurie wrote: Probably as part of Act 2 of Siltbreaker after TI. meh..wouldn't it be more hype if they reveal it at main event with a lot of press coverage? | ||
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Gotuso
Netherlands733 Posts
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Yurie
12004 Posts
On August 12 2017 02:00 Gotuso wrote: Is anyone else still baffled by OG? Every time I see them at a major they just dominate. But yesterday was just so... bad. What happened? I know Bulba defended them but it was hard to agree with him tbh. Have OG been poor for a while or was this just a disappointing TI for them? They havn't been stellar since their last Major win. They are still a tier 1 team. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66358 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66358 Posts
On August 12 2017 02:00 Gotuso wrote: Is anyone else still baffled by OG? Every time I see them at a major they just dominate. But yesterday was just so... bad. What happened? I know Bulba defended them but it was hard to agree with him tbh. Have OG been poor for a while or was this just a disappointing TI for them? i always feel like their draft isn't very solid, sometimes picking heroes that no one else picks and having mediocre success with them (broodmother, panda) also winter wyvern lul think ana isn't as solid as some of the better mid players too, not saying he's bad though. i'm a fan of him but i think he needs to really step up a bit more to get into chinese mid level's tier. notail is a bit underwhelming too. | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
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caramel-
Indonesia66 Posts
Winner bracket final, LFY hold slight advantage i think. | ||
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Achaian
United States3369 Posts
On August 12 2017 00:42 Tobon wrote: It's true I'm a liquid fan, so I'm probably biased. Still... I'm surprised that people find their play style unexciting. The kotl strat, in particular, tends to lead to them being behind early and then catching up and winning on a timing. People usually find swings and catching up exciting. People usually find timing strats (as opposed to hard carry long games) exciting. What makes liquid boring, then? Imagine carry naga, except now (from some fluke of game design) naga can easily acquire radiance as support. Yup. | ||
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32746 Posts
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Elurie
4716 Posts
On August 12 2017 02:09 PhoenixVoid wrote: Purge calling out the waow screamers lol. He did it to the woooo guys last year too. | ||
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
On August 12 2017 02:08 WindWolf wrote: Is it worth looking at the 100+ minute game. I sadly missed it yesterday watch last 15 mins | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On August 12 2017 00:15 MetalMercury wrote: Day 4: Impressions from the crowd Still having a blast! The games between VP and Liquid were really fun to watch; it's sad to see the non-Chinese teams performing so badly, but it happens sometimes! Last year we had 3 SEA teams in top 8, this year none. Cycle of dota. As much as people don't want to hear this, I think Liquid is probably the worst team left. If they win, it's gonna be on the back of Mind Control, but since they're so strategy dependent I feel that they'll get pulled apart by the best teams. I absolutely hate all-star games, in all of their forms. I wish they would just disappear. This allstar game was boring, the last allstar game was boring. As much as Valve hates it, this game isn't meant to be played in a carefree fun way. Maybe I'm getting too old.... Last note: food trucks outside the arena are godly! My friends also got screwed in the cosplay competition. =( I feel all star games are boring because pros don't know how to make them fun. Going around not farming and just trolling is not fun. Picking heroes like Abaddon/Medusa is not fun. Pick heroes with disables/burst like Gyro/Mirana/Lina/Lion etc. Farm but don't build carry items on carries. Get dagons/blademails etc. Try to outplay with cute stuff. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On August 12 2017 02:08 WindWolf wrote: Is it worth looking at the 100+ minute game. I sadly missed it yesterday the first 15 minutes and last 15 minutes are good. It had dropped rapiers, not picked up rapiers, trying to throne vs megas etc. + Show Spoiler + and I'm fairly sure had they picked up the rapier Liquid would have lost but for everything inbetween it's mostly just kotl nuking creeps and liquid not being able to get through the lv25 veno wards while keeping VP in their base. | ||
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