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On April 26 2017 02:46 HappyTuna wrote:
I'm so glad OG is here to ruin another major with their shitty illusions. Wonder how many games it will take for everyone to copy them and we get Boston 2.0
I don't get it. Alch buys Manta and he is an illusion hero all of a sudden. So I guess AM, Jugg, Spec and other heroes that use Manta are shitty?
Plus, while I think Alch is broken, it's not like they use their "shitty illusions" to rat. His built-in Terrasque-like regen and is what seems really broken for me. While it's been nerfed to reduce its uptime, those 2 games have shown he's still extremely tanky and strong. Not to mention he can farm like crazy and gift aghs. If you watched them play around the Alch, you'd see that they just stand behind the Alch to siege much like they did around Miracle-'s SF waiting to counter initiate.
Also, if you also cared to watch their Naga games, instead of just saying Naga is a shit hero, you'd see that they don't really use sleep to disengage but instead they choose to use the sleep to set up the some fights. In DAC it was with an Enigma and in this major it was with a Disruptor. I don't know about you, so much teamwork and coordination comes into pulling off a combo with sleep. I've seen so many teams try and pull it off and fail miserably. Even OG botched it many times during the series against Random.
But okay, you can hate on Alch & Naga on OG because hating on those heroes is the cool and popular thing to do. I don't really post here much but it's gotten to a point where people will just hate on a team because of the heroes they use. If the heroes are that OP/broken then everyone would be picking it and have an extremely good win rate on it.
With that being said, I'm an OG fan but it's been frustrating for me to watch them keep going back to the same old strategies when their backs are against the wall because I always felt like they had the more versatile players and they haven't really executed much on their "other" strats.
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On April 26 2017 03:01 stuchiu wrote:
Secret beat iG. iG beat EG.
Is the universe really setting up another RTZ shuffle?
RTZ to iG?
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Redeye looks like he might die.
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On April 26 2017 03:01 stuchiu wrote:
Secret beat iG. iG beat EG.
Is the universe really setting up another RTZ shuffle?
I feel like RTZ/Midone would run into the same problems that Liquid's experiencing right now with Matumbaman/Miracle.
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Lich is so broken, can't believe only Wings are abusing him. 2 lich games where Wings comeback from a huge deficit.
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I don't understand EG kept trying to pick a fight with IG early.
Maybe I'm misreading it but if EG just played the farm war I'm quite sure they had the advantage late game.
Even if Sven accelerated his farm early they had magnus empower to even it later
although you could argue having 4 melee with empower would result in jungle creep extinction  .
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On April 26 2017 03:01 intotheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2017 03:01 stuchiu wrote:
Secret beat iG. iG beat EG.
Is the universe really setting up another RTZ shuffle? RTZ to iG?
Pls no..Just send him to NP or something. His waifu is there
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On April 26 2017 03:03 babysimba wrote:
Lich is so broken, can't believe only Wings are abusing him. 2 lich games where Wings comeback from a huge deficit.
Wings still doing Wings things. :D
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On April 26 2017 03:01 stuchiu wrote:
Secret beat iG. iG beat EG.
Is the universe really setting up another RTZ shuffle?
Secret.rtz inc
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On April 26 2017 03:03 Dracolich70 wrote:
More EG appraisal...
"A few itemization choices away from winning." - Aui
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I guess its time for the "nobody cares about the group stage" excuse for EG.
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On April 26 2017 03:03 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2017 03:01 stuchiu wrote:
Secret beat iG. iG beat EG.
Is the universe really setting up another RTZ shuffle? I feel like RTZ/Midone would run into the same problems that Liquid's experiencing right now with Matumbaman/Miracle.
Probably. 2 farm heavy players.
At least suma1l/rtz works somehow
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On April 26 2017 03:01 Degu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2017 02:46 HappyTuna wrote:
I'm so glad OG is here to ruin another major with their shitty illusions. Wonder how many games it will take for everyone to copy them and we get Boston 2.0 I don't get it. Alch buys Manta and he is an illusion hero all of a sudden. So I guess AM, Jugg, Spec and other heroes that use Manta are shitty? Plus, while I think Alch is broken, it's not like they use their "shitty illusions" to rat. His built-in Terrasque-like regen and is what seems really broken for me. While it's been nerfed to reduce its uptime, those 2 games have shown he's still extremely tanky and strong. Not to mention he can farm like crazy and gift aghs. If you watched them play around the Alch, you'd see that they just stand behind the Alch to siege much like they did around Miracle-'s SF waiting to counter initiate. Also, if you also cared to watch their Naga games, instead of just saying Naga is a shit hero, you'd see that they don't really use sleep to disengage but instead they choose to use the sleep to set up the some fights. In DAC it was with an Enigma and in this major it was with a Disruptor. I don't know about you, so much teamwork and coordination comes into pulling off a combo with sleep. I've seen so many teams try and pull it off and fail miserably. Even OG botched it many times during the series against Random. But okay, you can hate on Alch & Naga on OG because hating on those heroes is the cool and popular thing to do. I don't really post here much but it's gotten to a point where people will just hate on a team because of the heroes they use. If the heroes are that OP/broken then everyone would be picking it and have an extremely good win rate on it. With that being said, I'm an OG fan but it's been frustrating for me to watch them keep going back to the same old strategies when their backs are against the wall because I always felt like they had the more versatile players and they haven't really executed much on their "other" strats.
OG are not versatile.
Haven't been for a while. It's a problem with their mid and safelaners who are so stagnant in hero picks, or bad as laners that they need these specific heroes that the players know how to recover/play on. The amount of pressure on S4, Jerax and fly needed to allow nobrain and ana to play a game of dota 2 is crazy.
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On April 26 2017 03:01 Degu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2017 02:46 HappyTuna wrote:
I'm so glad OG is here to ruin another major with their shitty illusions. Wonder how many games it will take for everyone to copy them and we get Boston 2.0 I don't get it. Alch buys Manta and he is an illusion hero all of a sudden. So I guess AM, Jugg, Spec and other heroes that use Manta are shitty? Plus, while I think Alch is broken, it's not like they use their "shitty illusions" to rat. His built-in Terrasque-like regen and is what seems really broken for me. While it's been nerfed to reduce its uptime, those 2 games have shown he's still extremely tanky and strong. Not to mention he can farm like crazy and gift aghs. If you watched them play around the Alch, you'd see that they just stand behind the Alch to siege much like they did around Miracle-'s SF waiting to counter initiate. Also, if you also cared to watch their Naga games, instead of just saying Naga is a shit hero, you'd see that they don't really use sleep to disengage but instead they choose to use the sleep to set up the some fights. In DAC it was with an Enigma and in this major it was with a Disruptor. I don't know about you, so much teamwork and coordination comes into pulling off a combo with sleep. I've seen so many teams try and pull it off and fail miserably. Even OG botched it many times during the series against Random. But okay, you can hate on Alch & Naga on OG because hating on those heroes is the cool and popular thing to do. I don't really post here much but it's gotten to a point where people will just hate on a team because of the heroes they use. If the heroes are that OP/broken then everyone would be picking it and have an extremely good win rate on it. With that being said, I'm an OG fan but it's been frustrating for me to watch them keep going back to the same old strategies when their backs are against the wall because I always felt like they had the more versatile players and they haven't really executed much on their "other" strats.
I agree with you, but i think people are just mad when a team is so good with certain strats, no one plays around Alchemist as OG do, the Naga strat i think it's a lot thanks to s4 to implement in OG, i don't recall them playing a lot around it when there was Miracle, but yea, it may become a problem in the future not to develop new strats... looks like they came at this Major with Arc Warden strat but it isn't working so far so they had to go back to comfort zone.
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"Will the real B-god turn up?" - Redeye.
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On April 26 2017 03:03 Kamisamanachi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2017 03:01 intotheheart wrote:On April 26 2017 03:01 stuchiu wrote:
Secret beat iG. iG beat EG.
Is the universe really setting up another RTZ shuffle? RTZ to iG? Pls no..Just send him to NP or something. His waifu is there
RTZ/EE/AUI/MSS/Bone7
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Why is KBBQ not translating? 
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Faceless picked Arc Warden again, btw.
At this point I have to assume there's a bet going on behind the scenes - first team to win a game with Arc Warden gets free dinner from Slacks or something.
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EPT
