EPT[BostonMajor] Main Event - Day 2 - Page 28
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Exoteric
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the bear jew
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ShiaoPi
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Zea!
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benghiskhan
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
Odd how every Valve event it's just so different. | ||
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
On December 09 2016 08:28 CosmicSpiral wrote: I find DK scales decently as long as you focus on AS and HP over initiation. Think DK should start going midas like invoker goes? Rush early midas, scale, youa re good with items. I saw a Dk earlier vs an Invoker, both had even networth early, invoker went midas, invoker gets over double networth. DK still pretty tanky with just his dragon's blood and can fight without too much early as long as you have team backup. He just needs to keep up with items. | ||
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Taf the Ghost
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On December 09 2016 08:42 the bear jew wrote: Think DK should start going midas like invoker goes? Rush early midas, scale, youa re good with items. I saw a Dk earlier vs an Invoker, both had even networth early, invoker went midas, invoker gets over double networth. DK still pretty tanky with just his dragon's blood and can fight without too much early as long as you have team backup. He just needs to keep up with items. Pretty much. DK is "okay", but he really needs items in the Late Game. Then he's practically unkillable. This game was completely about the Oracle living. That's the one downside with 4 Protect 1 lineups, as it means most of the game is how gets the jump properly. | ||
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nojok
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On December 09 2016 08:42 the bear jew wrote: Think DK should start going midas like invoker goes? Rush early midas, scale, youa re good with items. I saw a Dk earlier vs an Invoker, both had even networth early, invoker went midas, invoker gets over double networth. DK still pretty tanky with just his dragon's blood and can fight without too much early as long as you have team backup. He just needs to keep up with items. Except DK actually wants to do stuff entering midgame, midas does not help at all in that regard, also XP is not so great on him. | ||
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BurningSera
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FiWiFaKi
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DK just needs a lot of mid tier items, a Midas slows you way too much, since he needs to be pushing throughout all of the early-mid game. | ||
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wims80
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On December 09 2016 08:45 FiWiFaKi wrote: DK Midas is an awful item. DK just needs a lot of mid tier items, a Midas slows you way too much, since he needs to be pushing throughout all of the early-mid game. I agree. The early-mid game is where the DK shines, if you go midas you are basically sacrificing the early-mid game for a mediocre late game | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
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ShiaoPi
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On December 09 2016 08:41 FiWiFaKi wrote: Will the only chinese team making it into Ro8 be the one who wasn't supposed even supposed to be here? Odd how every Valve event it's just so different. hats off to AF for playing well, but Newbee can still easily take game 3. | ||
CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On December 09 2016 08:42 the bear jew wrote: Think DK should start going midas like invoker goes? Rush early midas, scale, youa re good with items. I saw a Dk earlier vs an Invoker, both had even networth early, invoker went midas, invoker gets over double networth. DK still pretty tanky with just his dragon's blood and can fight without too much early as long as you have team backup. He just needs to keep up with items. DK doesn't want Midas. His issue isn't getting levels quickly, it's maintaining farm rate so he can get the appropriate items. In most games you prioritize timings over farm, so Armlet -> Blink/SB/BKB becomes standard. With that setup you can end the game with a coordinated team but if you don't, you will never be able to replace those items quickly enough to be relevant. If my lineup doesn't need to end the game by say 35 minutes and we have other heroes for initiation, I prefer Armlet -> Maelstrom -> AC -> BKB/Mjolnir -> Satanic/Heart. Even then I'm not being the primary damage dealer, just an unkillable pain in the ass that frontlines for the safelaner. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
SS Tier: Medusa, Spectre, Terrorblade S Tier: Naga, Chaos Knight, Storm Spirit, Tinker, Faceless Void, Morphling A Tier: AM, Sven, Sniper, Clinks, Slark, OD, Tiny, Ember B Tier: WK, Luna, Weaver, Alchemist (since aghs), Juggernaut, TA, Gyro, Invoker, LS, PA, Lone Druid C Tier: QoP, Lina, Brood, Razor, SF, Huskar, Ursa, Slardar, Lycan, DK, Viper D Tier: Meepo, BS Obviously depends on draft, but just to assign rough lategame potential to the common heroes. | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
medusa's post50minute game is vastly overrated putting qop lina and brood above meepo is also super questionable meepo can actually still just end the game if you manage to teamwipe, that makes ihm better than all 3 of those already slardar's hardly ever a true 1 position regardless of how the earlygame was played so including him is questionable there also duno about juggs placement and a bunch of other heroes questionable list all around | ||
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
On December 09 2016 08:45 FiWiFaKi wrote: DK Midas is an awful item. DK just needs a lot of mid tier items, a Midas slows you way too much, since he needs to be pushing throughout all of the early-mid game. And that is what the DK tried to do, failed and was unable to keep up and scale. Dk scales well with items, why not get an item to ensure you scale and keep up? Not necessarily midas, something to focus on farming him up. I know you are saying, he just needs a bunch of mid tier items to fight! Well he never got them, He ended with 3 mid tier items, armlet, bkb, blink, not a lot of damage, pure initiation and then....nothing. Sure if your push idea is working that's fine, but maybe we should start rethinking DK and his role. Focus on scaling DK, cause he scales well, really damn well with items. Instead of just making him early push tower bot, focus on scaling him more.. | ||
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