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Wineandbread
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2065 Posts
August 08 2016 21:09 GMT
#1501
The touchscreen replay analysis is something borrowed from LCS production I believe
Harp on the PA and the stats all they want though, Forev played out of his mind g1 and g3

I'm really wondering if people are gonna respect ban the PA after this, or maybe try to focus shutting down Forev instead
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
August 08 2016 21:09 GMT
#1502
Time to see Wings get Sunsfanned on.
Skol
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
August 08 2016 21:09 GMT
#1503
On August 09 2016 06:09 Tachion wrote:
I had MVP winning in my bracket :D never underestimate the Koreans!


I have money on MVPs TI6 win. Easiest bet of my life.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
August 08 2016 21:10 GMT
#1504
my rares
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ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2867 Posts
August 08 2016 21:10 GMT
#1505
On August 09 2016 06:09 sunrazgriz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2016 06:08 nojok wrote:
On August 09 2016 06:07 Kipsate wrote:
On August 09 2016 06:04 nojok wrote:
On August 09 2016 06:01 Kipsate wrote:
On August 09 2016 05:59 nojok wrote:
On August 09 2016 05:58 Kipsate wrote:
MVP=Portugal

Why you remind me such paiunful memories? You want me to bring back some Dutch finals into the mix?

woah dude uncalled for.

Spain 2010

French team 2010

lol.

Netherland 2016

Cleveland Cavaliers 2016

Chicago Cubs whenever
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
August 08 2016 21:10 GMT
#1506
On August 09 2016 06:09 Ufnal wrote:
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On August 09 2016 06:06 trifecta wrote:
On August 09 2016 06:05 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On August 09 2016 06:04 uriel- wrote:
What's the hooplah about? MVP won more games than those below them, and then beat OG up in a matchup chosen by OG themselves. Mad fanboys drowning in them salt.

Apparently MVP doesn't "deserve" to win whenever they beat better opponents. It's the same song with the same people.


I think og fans are triggered by all the "og are shit" trolls


I for one am always triggered by the @#$%s who spew shit like "N0brain", "Mushit" and other such derogative, disrespectful, shitty things. Which makes me hide twitchchat quite a lot.

I watch games either embedded in TL or on livestreamer, problem solved.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
uriel-
Profile Joined August 2007
Singapore1867 Posts
August 08 2016 21:10 GMT
#1507
On August 09 2016 06:06 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2016 06:05 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 09 2016 05:56 FiWiFaKi wrote:
What a dumb system.

MVP doesn't win a single series, and they get upper bracket. Why not make the group stages even more useless =/



lol what? didn't OG get to pick MVP?


Last time I'll say it:

Choosing between 3rd and 4th in the other group isn't much of an advantage. Look at TI4 group stage to see a meaningful group stage.


Yeah TI4 was really the shining example of what an exciting TI should have. One finalist revealed day two or something, loved that.

Like you can talk all day but OG lost dota. What else is there to say? At the end of the day you need to win dota to move ahead and OG aren't winning dota when it matters. End of story.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
August 08 2016 21:10 GMT
#1508
Don't need to first ban PA. Probably need to second phase ban though.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 08 2016 21:10 GMT
#1509
On August 09 2016 06:09 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2016 06:05 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
On August 09 2016 06:04 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On August 09 2016 06:02 bluzi wrote:
On August 09 2016 05:57 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On August 09 2016 05:56 kju wrote:
On August 09 2016 05:56 FiWiFaKi wrote:
What a dumb system.

MVP doesn't win a single series, and they get upper bracket. Why not make the group stages even more useless =/

no excuse for eu dota shitting the bed yet again at ti


This has nothing to do with regions. Just odd that you don't win a SINGLE series, and now you win one, and you're automatically top 6?


Whats wrong with you ? series didnt mean anything it was about games won , they won enough games to get 4th , the group stage is about measuring how good you are , and the best way is to count games won , not series won becuase there isnt any "series" its 2 games and no one is elminiated , whatever , if you think group stage is useless then you are clueless.


No need for the personal attacks.

Yes, I think that 1st or 4th makes next to no difference. Picking your opponent between 3rd and 4th is such a marginal advantage.

what do you think about ehome? since you know they won even more games than og


What about Ehome? This isn't Azarkon, I don't judge on nationalities, the same should go for Ehome...

There should be an advantage for doing well in the group stage. MLG in SC2 took it to the extreme, but the 3 days of group stages now are not very important.

Hell, even the group stages for the 5th-8th teams are useless, since you play all these games, to have your fate decided in a Bo1. The 8th team can easy beat the 5th team say 30% of the time, and it's just way too much randomness for no reason, and gets rid of the useful of group stages, besides letting a meta develop.

Yeah the one problem I have is that with double elim especially, your TI isn't over immediately even if you bomb the groups. I didn't hate the TI4 format as much as a lot of others it seems.
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Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
August 08 2016 21:10 GMT
#1510
On August 09 2016 06:09 CorsairHero wrote:
are march and febby cool now

yep
ymir233
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States8275 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-08 21:12:12
August 08 2016 21:10 GMT
#1511
On August 09 2016 06:01 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2016 06:00 jalstar wrote:
On August 09 2016 05:57 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On August 09 2016 05:56 kju wrote:
On August 09 2016 05:56 FiWiFaKi wrote:
What a dumb system.

MVP doesn't win a single series, and they get upper bracket. Why not make the group stages even more useless =/

no excuse for eu dota shitting the bed yet again at ti


This has nothing to do with regions. Just odd that you don't win a SINGLE series, and now you win one, and you're automatically top 6?


Their punishment for doing mediocre in the group stage was having to face OG, and they deserve to nullify it by beating OG.


Okay, I guess that's where I'll disagree with you. They should have a more difficult run instead of OG in terms of number of games and chances to fail.

I think TI4 is a good example of where the group stage matters.

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On August 09 2016 06:01 Logo wrote:
On August 09 2016 05:59 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On August 09 2016 05:57 LimitSEA wrote:
On August 09 2016 05:56 FiWiFaKi wrote:
What a dumb system.

MVP doesn't win a single series, and they get upper bracket. Why not make the group stages even more useless =/

They clearly deserve it, unless you think them dumpstering OG is a fluke.


They definitely are not the better team, and 80% of the time this result wouldn't happen.

Just unfortunate for OG, since winning so much in the group stages means nothing.


They picked MVP. They could have picked Newbee.

At BEST you're saying that OG should have had to face an even stronger team because MVP doesn't deserve upper bracket which would just make it more likely that OG would get dropped.


Yeah, like I said, I don't think getting to pick your opponent from two teams is a meaningful advantage for finishing first in groups.


???

"MVP should have it harder" would only make sense if MVP and OG were the only teams at TI6 right now

MVP did better in their groups both point-wise and by showing that they could go toe-to-toe with every team in the group except EHOME

what you could say is that some other team (with a 2-0) should be more deserving of a chance in UB but then again, fnatic keeled over to everyone but a random secret and vg.r, liquid only won cleanly vs fnatic and dropped the ball vs secret and dc for some reason, and secret was a bundle of lol.

so take it up with the teams in LB, not the ones in UB.
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
August 08 2016 21:10 GMT
#1512
On August 09 2016 06:08 dutchfriese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2016 06:06 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On August 09 2016 06:05 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 09 2016 05:56 FiWiFaKi wrote:
What a dumb system.

MVP doesn't win a single series, and they get upper bracket. Why not make the group stages even more useless =/



lol what? didn't OG get to pick MVP?


Last time I'll say it:

Choosing between 3rd and 4th in the other group isn't much of an advantage. Look at TI4 group stage to see a meaningful group stage.


Uh okay. Still no idea what your point is. Why is the system dumb?? Should OG and Ehome have received first round byes in your opinion?

What happens when OG loses in the second round after their first round bye? Still an unfair systeM? Maybe they shoulda just put OG and Ehome in the finals, fuck the rest of the tournament. Why the hell not?


Yeah, I do think an advantage like a bye would be better. So sure, you lose your first match, but it'll be against a better opponent, and now you'll be at least in the top 8 if you lose, to reward you for the really good group stage.
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bourne117
Profile Joined May 2010
United States837 Posts
August 08 2016 21:10 GMT
#1513
On August 09 2016 06:08 Kuroeeah wrote:
My issue with MVP is that they did draw every game. Their playstyle lends itself to being able to win against both the best teams but also lose against the worst.

MVP is probably the team that the best teams in the world hate playing against because their team fighting is best in class and when that fails, MVP starts to not look so good anymore.

MVP drawing ever set is a little misleading imo. They had some pretty huge throws where they were solidly ahead and just 1 mistake cost them the game. If groups were bo3 MVP would have been 2nd in the group I think pretty easily.
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ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
August 08 2016 21:11 GMT
#1514
Prepare for another mountain of salt when Wings beats DC
secret - never again
GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
August 08 2016 21:11 GMT
#1515
Charlie, crusher of dreams. and memes.
NO MORE CHEN NERFS!!!
Ufnal
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland1435 Posts
August 08 2016 21:11 GMT
#1516
On August 09 2016 06:08 dutchfriese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2016 06:06 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On August 09 2016 06:05 dutchfriese wrote:
On August 09 2016 05:56 FiWiFaKi wrote:
What a dumb system.

MVP doesn't win a single series, and they get upper bracket. Why not make the group stages even more useless =/



lol what? didn't OG get to pick MVP?


Last time I'll say it:

Choosing between 3rd and 4th in the other group isn't much of an advantage. Look at TI4 group stage to see a meaningful group stage.


Uh okay. Still no idea what your point is. Why is the system dumb?? Should OG and Ehome have received first round byes in your opinion?

What happens when OG loses in the second round after their first round bye? Still an unfair systeM? Maybe they shoulda just put OG and Ehome in the finals, fuck the rest of the tournament. Why the hell not?


Actually, I think an EU-style league without playoffs is more fair than any kind of playoffs after group stage. But I sure as hell don't want that to happen at International, sacrificing some fairness at the altar of viewing pleasure FTW.
OG | Secret | Liquid | Nigma | Alliance | VP | Fnatic | EG | T1 | LGD
kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
August 08 2016 21:11 GMT
#1517
On August 09 2016 06:09 Wineandbread wrote:
The touchscreen replay analysis is something borrowed from LCS production I believe
Harp on the PA and the stats all they want though, Forev played out of his mind g1 and g3

I'm really wondering if people are gonna respect ban the PA after this, or maybe try to focus shutting down Forev instead

lots of major sports do that stuff
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 08 2016 21:11 GMT
#1518
Groups are fine. It wasn't winning series that counted. It was wining the amount of games.
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Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
August 08 2016 21:11 GMT
#1519
that is a beautiful stache on moo there
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 08 2016 21:11 GMT
#1520
On August 09 2016 06:11 ch33psh33p wrote:
Prepare for another mountain of salt when Wings beats DC

I thought DC getting this far was surprising enough as it is.
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