EPTBecause as much as you can complain about the rules, it's hard to say that any of the 4 teams below them actually played better. And seeing as groupstage is zero sum, it makes no sense to say that they deserve to be in the LB without naming a team that played better and deserves to be up there.
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Because as much as you can complain about the rules, it's hard to say that any of the 4 teams below them actually played better. And seeing as groupstage is zero sum, it makes no sense to say that they deserve to be in the LB without naming a team that played better and deserves to be up there. | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On August 09 2016 06:11 stuchiu wrote: Groups are fine. It wasn't winning series that counted. It was wining the amount of games. Particularly with just 2 games played, not 3. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On August 09 2016 06:07 bourne117 wrote: Why are you constantly ignoring other events with that stat. This is really the first event where the QO PA has actually been successful for them. Go reference their results at manila. They didn't rely on PA AT ALL. Literally didn't win 1 game with her. They have other heroes they can play. You are correct, behind PA there stands the MVP's ultimate strategy of "Run at people, kill people, win game". | ||
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DV G
Argentina2339 Posts
Argentina 2014 2015 2016 Oh i thought we were saying shit about teams | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On August 09 2016 06:11 lolfail9001 wrote: You are correct, behind PA there stands the MVP's ultimate strategy of "Run at people, kill people, win game". Bristleback + IO vs. EG. :D | ||
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Wintex
Norway16849 Posts
On August 09 2016 06:11 ch33psh33p wrote: Prepare for another mountain of salt when Wings beats DC lol wat people love wings i for one love seeing miracle fanboys cry so let's go. knock em out next round, vgr/tnc | ||
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nojok
France15846 Posts
On August 09 2016 06:11 IntoTheheart wrote: I thought DC getting this far was surprising enough as it is. Yeah, DC has nothing to lose as moo said in his interview. Wings are not huge favorites either and they just want to play dota. | ||
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ZeaL.
United States5955 Posts
Edit: Maybe not happy but less salty than if it was Secret or EG or something knocking them down. | ||
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
On August 09 2016 06:09 FiWiFaKi wrote: What about Ehome? This isn't Azarkon, I don't judge on nationalities, the same should go for Ehome... There should be an advantage for doing well in the group stage. MLG in SC2 took it to the extreme, but the 3 days of group stages now are not very important. Hell, even the group stages for the 5th-8th teams are useless, since you play all these games, to have your fate decided in a Bo1. The 8th team can easy beat the 5th team say 30% of the time, and it's just way too much randomness for no reason, and gets rid of the useful of group stages, besides letting a meta develop. i dont give a shit if you are azarkon dude. im just saying that they won more games than og and that means that they should get an even bigger advantage in your opinion just be honest. would u have said the same thing about navi at ti2? cause they were 4th in their group | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On August 09 2016 06:09 overt wrote: If you're bottom four you have to play a fucking bo1 and get seeded into the lower bracket. Number one team gets to pick between #3 or #4 in upper bracket. Number one team shits the bed and is now in losers. I don't understand your issue with the format. If it was TI4 style and OG played like that they'd still end up in losers lol. You're correct, this is the only time in 7 sets that the number one seed from a group has lost. At TI2, TI3, and TI5, the group winners all beat the teams they picked in the first round. It's like saying there's no advantage to being the number one seed in the NBA, since facing the 8th best team in your conference isn't that much better than facing the 5th best. | ||
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sunrazgriz
Vatican City State1573 Posts
On August 09 2016 06:12 DV G wrote: Argentina 2014 2015 2016 Oh i thought we were saying shit about teams ohh okay any messi team 2016 then | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On August 09 2016 06:12 ZeaL. wrote: Yeah I'm pretty sure any DC fanboy would be happy to see Wings move on. As far as I can tell, DC doesn't even have rabid fanboys anyway. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
Eliminating half the field after groups means people who travel half way around the world might not even see their favorite team play at TI. It's cool if you liked the old system but I think you're a very small minority. | ||
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Aezo-
Canada378 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On August 09 2016 06:13 jalstar wrote: You're correct, this is the only time in 7 sets that the number one seed from a group has lost. At TI2, TI3, and TI5, the group winners all beat the teams they picked in the first round. It's like saying there's no advantage to being the number one seed in the NBA, since facing the 8th best team in your conference isn't that much better than facing the 5th best. It sets bad precedent for my prediction of EHOME rolling everyone this TI with smallest hero pool of all teams (except ESC because lol). | ||
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Elurie
4716 Posts
On August 09 2016 06:09 FiWiFaKi wrote: What about Ehome? This isn't Azarkon, I don't judge on nationalities, the same should go for Ehome... There should be an advantage for doing well in the group stage. MLG in SC2 took it to the extreme, but the 3 days of group stages now are not very important. Different day, different performance, different opponents. These guys are human, not robots, not even Miracle. | ||
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ZeaL.
United States5955 Posts
On August 09 2016 06:13 Aezo- wrote: In the Losers Bracket it's b01 for the first round, but is it b01 or b03 in the second round? When OG plays VGR/TNC is it a b03 again? Bo3 I believe | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On August 09 2016 06:13 overt wrote: Sorry but if you bomb in groups, win a fucking bo1 and somehow climb back to win all of TI you deserve it more than any other team. Not to mention how incredibly hype that would be. Eliminating half the field after groups means people who travel half way around the world might not even see their favorite team play at TI. It's cool if you liked the old system but I think you're a very small minority. I'm sure I am, yeah. | ||
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Kishin2
United States7534 Posts
On August 09 2016 06:13 Aezo- wrote: In the Losers Bracket it's b01 for the first round, but is it b01 or b03 in the second round? When OG plays VGR/TNC is it a b03 again? yes, it's bo3 | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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