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On July 25 2016 08:06 FreakyDroid wrote: Yeah, he is average at best. I'd put Dendi there as well, he is nothing special either.
You mean playing football? I agree.
On the other hand, with Invoker he kicked Secret asses hard.
Hi, first post here but long time lurker, nice to meet you all, but expecially Secret fans.
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I'm always on suicide watch though
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Well played by Na'Vi, grats to them!
I think they've cemented themselves as the current top team that isn't one of the top four in OG, Liquid, Newbee, and Wings imo. I still don't see them beating those other teams consistently, but they've been improving dramatically over the last two weeks so anything is possible!
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Good tournament, dropping that winner bracket finals to figure out the Drow strat was worth it.
Secret needs to work on their draft a lot more though. You cant drop Bulba now that Ti lock is on but maybe start interviewing for new offlaner because boys will they need it.
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On July 25 2016 11:30 TomatoBisque wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2016 11:30 spudde123 wrote: Not sure what the point was of this Secret draft. They can't exactly do much in this game feels like a tilt draft
Navi figured out Secret's drafting pattern, forced them to ban io/sk and got a perfect draft based on what they intuited what Secret would pick.
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On July 25 2016 11:36 spudde123 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2016 11:35 Verniy wrote:On July 25 2016 11:32 sacrilegious wrote: I thought Huskar was nerfed? LOL...
I sort of don't care Secret lost, but I hate seeing Na'Vi win now, only because of well... G2A. And poor Bulba nerfs don't matter that much when you're pushing highground at 15 mins against a team whose only substantial physical/pure damage is an axe and an underfarmed morph More importantly Secret's lineup had no initiation at all at that stage of the game, literally the only thing they could do when NaVi gets on a tower is walk in So overall, drafting issue? I honestly sometimes think Puppey goes on a period of being a one trick pony with ET or Axe (just like in the TI qualifiers) which hurts the diversity
EE dying stupidly to the Rhasta fork lightning didn't help
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On July 25 2016 11:38 nayumi wrote: Good tournament, dropping that winner bracket finals to figure out the Drow strat was worth it.
Secret needs to work on their draft a lot more though. You cant drop Bulba now that Ti lock is on but maybe start interviewing for new offlaner because boys will they need it. At this rate they will need a new pair of cores first and foremost.
But yes, Bulba could use slightly larger hero pool.
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On July 25 2016 11:34 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2016 11:32 Vertical wrote: Summit 5 and Starladder both played in house
the difference is Starladder winner hugs each other celebrate and smiled a lot Summit 5 winner goes "meh... we won as expected..." Summit 5 winner was playing pubs, not point to celebrate. I celebrate my pub games
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On July 25 2016 11:33 Kreb wrote: Secret still looking better than Manila. Looks like they could be a top 10 team at TI with a good run. Top5 seems out of reach though. much much better than Manila. So I don't think you can fault them too hard, they improved a ton. Still, feels like Na'Vi showed more depth and somewhat better draft/play coordination.
Interesting to see where Secret go from here. Will they learn from losses and adapt or be headless and stubborn with not much of an idea what to do when you're figured out a bit.
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gg Navi, finally after all these years.
🤔 I liked what i saw from Secret. And this loss is a good experience for them.
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On July 25 2016 11:38 nayumi wrote: Good tournament, dropping that winner bracket finals to figure out the Drow strat was worth it.
Secret needs to work on their draft a lot more though. You cant drop Bulba now that Ti lock is on but maybe start interviewing for new offlaner because boys will they need it. abbadon is not a hero vs huskar , its not bulba fault , its puppey
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Bulba has a pretty good hero pool for the meta right now
Bat/DS/Beast/tide/Aba
what else does he need?
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On July 25 2016 11:38 _Elendil wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2016 08:06 FreakyDroid wrote: Yeah, he is average at best. I'd put Dendi there as well, he is nothing special either. You mean playing football? I agree. On the other hand, with Invoker he kicked Secret asses hard. Hi, first post here but long time lurker, nice to meet you all, but expecially Secret fans.
First two games Dendi was at the disadvantage during lane phase at mid. Game 4 he had the better matchup and he bullied Arteezy just as hard as he was bullied earlier.
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On July 25 2016 11:33 DucK- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2016 10:48 ch33psh33p wrote: Looks like navi still can't beat a single tier 1 team if their lives depended on it Yea, but we have no problem beating tier 3s though XDDD funny how people put secret and eg in the T1 team group
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On July 25 2016 11:40 Nyan wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2016 11:33 DucK- wrote:On July 24 2016 10:48 ch33psh33p wrote: Looks like navi still can't beat a single tier 1 team if their lives depended on it Yea, but we have no problem beating tier 3s though XDDD funny how people put secret and eg in the T1 team group secret t2
eg t6
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Gratz Navi. Hopefully this win here can help them overcome their mental blocks against TL/OG at TI.
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Sonneiko stepping it up, he played an amazing series. Also happy to see Dendi carrying his team, felt that he's a weak link of the team.
Surprised by secret's growth though. They looked terrible in the quals and shaky against weak opponents at the start of the tourney, but they really looked solid in the semi and finals. Two of the three games Navi won could have gone the other way.
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Navi last tournament win was against Bulba btw
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On July 25 2016 11:45 Faruko wrote: Navi last tournament win was against Bulba btw Team Tinker rofl
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We now can say that navi is back boys
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