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plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
June 07 2016 04:19 GMT
#441
What if instead of a rune cam, there was a spectator-only notification indicating which non-bounty rune spawned and at which rune spot? It could be up top where the kills are displayed currently and be color-coordinated with the rune
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
mjxn
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia939 Posts
June 07 2016 04:20 GMT
#442
How long has it been since game 1?
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
June 07 2016 04:20 GMT
#443
On June 07 2016 13:19 plasmidghost wrote:
What if instead of a rune cam, there was a spectator-only notification indicating which non-bounty rune spawned and at which rune spot? It could be up top where the kills are displayed currently and be color-coordinated with the rune


The map already shows which runes spawn where and the text tells you who picks what up, there's also a sound cue for them. All that stuff is already conveyed nicely in an non obtrusive way.
LiquidDota Staff
Moobutt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1996 Posts
June 07 2016 04:20 GMT
#444
MVP last pick alchemist incoming
3/22/16 The Day EG Died
brinepumps
Profile Joined February 2015
Indonesia753 Posts
June 07 2016 04:20 GMT
#445
On June 07 2016 13:08 molecu wrote:
Newbee MVP finals.
Azarkon tears.
Ah.

"Should we consider region-locking?" - reddit.

Hey there's Overwatch for NA/EU. I heard it's a great competitive game. How about Hearthstone? Really hardcore.

I can dream.


This is a good dream.
"if you don't believe you can do it, then you have no chance at all" - Arsene Wenger
wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
June 07 2016 04:21 GMT
#446
On June 07 2016 13:12 nayumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 13:03 Dysisa wrote:
On June 07 2016 13:00 Kamisamanachi wrote:
Tfw community shits on every production value pgl tries to being in

Tfw community also bashes the low production value in almost 90℅of the tournemanets

When will community be satisfied?

There's a difference between stuff like sound errors etc (low production value) and the battleviewer etc ("high" production value), I don't think it's weird that people could complain about both? Might be hard to believe, but some of us just want to watch some fucking Dota. I don't need or want any of this fluff.

All this fluff is catered towards a more amateur audience. Dota elitists will argue that the standard client UI already gives you enough information i.e we don't need rune cam because mini-map already shows us that. But not all of us look at mini-map during a live game, especially those with less playing experience.

If you guys want Dota to move forward and become more mainstream and recognised/accepted by more people, things like cheesy layouts are unavoidable. So we're becoming more like League, so what? League dominates all other games in terms of followers. Elitism will only do more harm to a growing industry like eSport.



It has nothing to do with elitism and everything to do with being unnecessary. If anything, cheesy layouts only repels more viewers, not attract. A game as complicated as Dota or LoL is complicated enough to look at on their own. In fact, the complexity is what deters viewers to being with, so why add to the problem?
Also, Dota is NEVER going to be mainstream because of its complexity.
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
June 07 2016 04:21 GMT
#447
QO Slardar is the best in the world , always have hugh impact , lets see if Liquid can handle it.
molecu
Profile Joined June 2013
347 Posts
June 07 2016 04:21 GMT
#448
If you really want in-depth observation you watch Dota 2 in-game. Go free camera and find the info yourself. Everybody has a PC these days you have no excuse. The stream is for the masses catered to the lowest common denominator(read: 2k mmr twitch chatters.) It looks cool, they 'PogChamp' and they go back to spamming their 'racist 'jokes''.
it all matters
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
June 07 2016 04:22 GMT
#449
On June 07 2016 13:14 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 13:12 nayumi wrote:
On June 07 2016 13:03 Dysisa wrote:
On June 07 2016 13:00 Kamisamanachi wrote:
Tfw community shits on every production value pgl tries to being in

Tfw community also bashes the low production value in almost 90℅of the tournemanets

When will community be satisfied?

There's a difference between stuff like sound errors etc (low production value) and the battleviewer etc ("high" production value), I don't think it's weird that people could complain about both? Might be hard to believe, but some of us just want to watch some fucking Dota. I don't need or want any of this fluff.

All this fluff is catered towards a more amateur audience. Dota elitists will argue that the standard client UI already gives you enough information i.e we don't need rune cam because mini-map already shows us that. But not all of us look at mini-map during a live game, especially those with less playing experience.

If you guys want Dota to move forward and become more mainstream and recognised/accepted by more people, things like cheesy layouts are unavoidable. So we're becoming more like League, so what? League dominates all other games in terms of followers. Elitism will only do more harm to a growing industry like eSport.



If you're not already aware of the runes and what's going on around them I don't think you'll really understand what you see in a camera either though. It ends up being useful to no one.

My point is that someone might know that each rune does but doesn't keep track of the in-game time to check them every 2 minutes.

Look I'm not saying whatever they're doing now is perfect but I'm 100% sure they're in the right direction. And I don't think disregarding all the these extra stuffs simply because ïf it's not broken, don't fix it"is the right mentality if we want Dota (or anything in life for that matter) to improve.

Constructive criticism guys!
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
June 07 2016 04:23 GMT
#450
Liquid team fight is great while MVP can snowball like crazy with ganks, style make fights lets see how those 2 clash.
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
June 07 2016 04:23 GMT
#451
this trophy looks so bad, the fact that the camera is swirling around a glorified fisher price toy is tilting me.
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
June 07 2016 04:23 GMT
#452
now an invoker game. i am looking forward for the battle view when it shows me that his quas-wex-exort spells are all off cooldown, because i have a feeling that they didnt add a slot for the 5th and 6th spell
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
June 07 2016 04:24 GMT
#453
I'd rather Valve/PGL try new things and fail or refine than not innovate the game
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
June 07 2016 04:24 GMT
#454
man this tournament has been live for 2.5 hours and weve finished 1 game.
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
June 07 2016 04:25 GMT
#455
On June 07 2016 13:24 Darpa wrote:
man this tournament has been live for 2.5 hours and weve finished 1 game.

Good! Enough time for me to make it home and cheer for mah boys!
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 07 2016 04:25 GMT
#456
AXE
Moderator
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
June 07 2016 04:26 GMT
#457
On June 07 2016 13:22 nayumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 13:14 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On June 07 2016 13:12 nayumi wrote:
On June 07 2016 13:03 Dysisa wrote:
On June 07 2016 13:00 Kamisamanachi wrote:
Tfw community shits on every production value pgl tries to being in

Tfw community also bashes the low production value in almost 90℅of the tournemanets

When will community be satisfied?

There's a difference between stuff like sound errors etc (low production value) and the battleviewer etc ("high" production value), I don't think it's weird that people could complain about both? Might be hard to believe, but some of us just want to watch some fucking Dota. I don't need or want any of this fluff.

All this fluff is catered towards a more amateur audience. Dota elitists will argue that the standard client UI already gives you enough information i.e we don't need rune cam because mini-map already shows us that. But not all of us look at mini-map during a live game, especially those with less playing experience.

If you guys want Dota to move forward and become more mainstream and recognised/accepted by more people, things like cheesy layouts are unavoidable. So we're becoming more like League, so what? League dominates all other games in terms of followers. Elitism will only do more harm to a growing industry like eSport.



If you're not already aware of the runes and what's going on around them I don't think you'll really understand what you see in a camera either though. It ends up being useful to no one.

My point is that someone might know that each rune does but doesn't keep track of the in-game time to check them every 2 minutes.

Look I'm not saying whatever they're doing now is perfect but I'm 100% sure they're in the right direction. And I don't think disregarding all the these extra stuffs simply because ïf it's not broken, don't fix it"is the right mentality if we want Dota (or anything in life for that matter) to improve.

Constructive criticism guys!


DotA has been improving for over a decade. This isn't how we move forward. All cams should be controlled SOLELY by a professional secondary dedicated observer, not production staff. Let Weppas control the second cam and he decides when to cut into the main feed with something. He knows whats important and what's bullshit, let him make the call and hit the button to bring something up on screen outside of the main observer.
LiquidDota Staff
maze.
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1392 Posts
June 07 2016 04:26 GMT
#458
On June 07 2016 13:24 Darpa wrote:
man this tournament has been live for 2.5 hours and weve finished 1 game.


Its gonna be long day. Possible 9 more games today.
Misery on Secret: I managed to get kicked twice from the same team before I got my share of the money. 4Head
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
June 07 2016 04:27 GMT
#459
I think MVP will win this game
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
June 07 2016 04:27 GMT
#460
Alright that's game
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
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