EPTAzarkon tears.
Ah.
"Should we consider region-locking?" - reddit.
Hey there's Overwatch for NA/EU. I heard it's a great competitive game. How about Hearthstone? Really hardcore.
I can dream.
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molecu
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Azarkon tears. Ah. "Should we consider region-locking?" - reddit. Hey there's Overwatch for NA/EU. I heard it's a great competitive game. How about Hearthstone? Really hardcore. I can dream. | ||
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Kamisamanachi
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crc
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wuhan_clan
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hfglgg
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OuchyDathurts
United States4588 Posts
On June 07 2016 13:07 Kamisamanachi wrote: The thing is people are having hard time accepting things the way they look as they are being suddenly brought in ..this is the first day of that battle view thing. I am pretty sure it will grow on many people as time passes by, but the hate circle jerk against these things will even make those who loved it at first sight, hate it afterwards . The battle view is the answer to a question no one asked though. There was no swell of people clamoring for a new GUI that muddily tried to convey information. Looking at that its very very clear that whoever made it doesn't understand how good GUIs work. DotA conveys information FANTASTICALLY well between the UI, visual, and audio cues. If it ain't broke don't fix it. No one asked for this just leave it alone or guess what will happen? | ||
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
On June 07 2016 13:03 Dysisa wrote: There's a difference between stuff like sound errors etc (low production value) and the battleviewer etc ("high" production value), I don't think it's weird that people could complain about both? Might be hard to believe, but some of us just want to watch some fucking Dota. I don't need or want any of this fluff. All this fluff is catered towards a more amateur audience. Dota elitists will argue that the standard client UI already gives you enough information i.e we don't need rune cam because mini-map already shows us that. But not all of us look at mini-map during a live game, especially those with less playing experience. If you guys want Dota to move forward and become more mainstream and recognised/accepted by more people, things like cheesy layouts are unavoidable. So we're becoming more like League, so what? League dominates all other games in terms of followers. Elitism will only do more harm to a growing industry like eSport. | ||
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xyzz
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Moobutt
United States1996 Posts
On June 07 2016 13:07 Kamisamanachi wrote: The thing is people are having hard time accepting things the way they look as they are being suddenly brought in ..this is the first day of that battle view thing. I am pretty sure it will grow on many people as time passes by, but the hate circle jerk against these things will even make those who loved it at first sight, hate it afterwards . I think people dislike the battleview for it's attributes. I think it's a cool concept, and it could totally work. But it needs refinement so bad. | ||
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DucK-
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Faruko
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(the rune cam not so much lol or at least not every 2 minutes) | ||
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OuchyDathurts
United States4588 Posts
On June 07 2016 13:12 nayumi wrote: All this fluff is catered towards a more amateur audience. Dota elitists will argue that the standard client UI already gives you enough information i.e we don't need rune cam because mini-map already shows us that. But not all of us look at mini-map during a live game, especially those with less playing experience. If you guys want Dota to move forward and become more mainstream and recognised/accepted by more people, things like cheesy layouts are unavoidable. So we're becoming more like League, so what? League dominates all other games in terms of followers. Elitism will only do more harm to a growing industry like eSport. If you're not already aware of the runes and what's going on around them I don't think you'll really understand what you see in a camera either though. It ends up being useful to no one. | ||
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bluzi
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Voronoff
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hfglgg
Germany5372 Posts
On June 07 2016 13:12 nayumi wrote: All this fluff is catered towards a more amateur audience. Dota elitists will argue that the standard client UI already gives you enough information i.e we don't need rune cam because mini-map already shows us that. But not all of us look at mini-map during a live game, especially those with less playing experience. If you guys want Dota to move forward and become more mainstream and recognised/accepted by more people, things like cheesy layouts are unavoidable. So we're becoming more like League, so what? League dominates all other games in terms of followers. Elitism will only do more harm to a growing industry like eSport. well the only thing the battle view does is look fancy, it doesnt help understanding fights better at all. reasons are already listed, mainly that most informations displayed are useless most of the time (mana, spell cd) and in the cases they are useful, you still need to know the icon of every spell which kinda goes against a casual crowd anyway. | ||
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maze.
Germany1392 Posts
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On June 07 2016 13:12 nayumi wrote: All this fluff is catered towards a more amateur audience. Dota elitists will argue that the standard client UI already gives you enough information i.e we don't need rune cam because mini-map already shows us that. But not all of us look at mini-map during a live game, especially those with less playing experience. If you guys want Dota to move forward and become more mainstream and recognised/accepted by more people, things like cheesy layouts are unavoidable. So we're becoming more like League, so what? League dominates all other games in terms of followers. Elitism will only do more harm to a growing industry like eSport. I mean, in "real" sports you don't see the screen get plastered with stats when there's a power play. American football at least keeps things extremely clean during actual plays. It's only in the aftermath you get the complex detail, because that's where they explain nuances. I don't think I've *ever* seen an extremely complex popup mid-action in "real" sports, in fact. Maybe cricket or something. | ||
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bluzi
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On June 07 2016 13:17 hfglgg wrote: well the only thing the battle view does is look fancy, it doesnt help understanding fights better at all. reasons are already listed, mainly that most informations displayed are useless most of the time (mana, spell cd) and in the cases they are useful, you still need to now the icon of every spell which kinda goes against a casual crowd anyway. Agreed , no way seeing all the information helps ... it clutters the screen and makes it impossible to understand unless you really know what you are looking for., | ||
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