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LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
June 07 2016 04:01 GMT
#401


It'll be refined and hopefully decluttered. It has a lot of potential, and it's not perfect, but it could be awesome.
Long live the King of Wings
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
June 07 2016 04:01 GMT
#402
Man, Purge just says so much useless stuff. He really makes the analyst part seem soooo long to me.
Looking forward to g2 though! Hopefully Liquid picks up the pace. The riki pick from mvp was nice.
https://soundcloud.com/papercranesdk
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
June 07 2016 04:01 GMT
#403
what is this no forcestaff against riki and nix crap ?
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
June 07 2016 04:02 GMT
#404
On June 07 2016 13:00 Kamisamanachi wrote:
Tfw community shits on every production value pgl tries to being in

Tfw community also bashes the low production value in almost 90℅of the tournemanets

When will community be satisfied?


I mean other than the Shanghai shit show, I always though Valve events were decent in production. Why do we have to take an opposite and emulate other esports and start being weird and fancy with shit thrown at us. Just keep it simple!
Getting too old for this..
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
June 07 2016 04:02 GMT
#405
PGL has responded pretty well to feedback in the past from what I remember, they tried this in the opening upper bracket series and I am sure theyl change some of it later on

itl be fine.
WriterXiao8~~
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
June 07 2016 04:02 GMT
#406
On June 07 2016 13:00 Kamisamanachi wrote:
Tfw community shits on every production value pgl tries to being in

Tfw community also bashes the low production value in almost 90℅of the tournemanets

When will community be satisfied?


No one in the community asked for courier cams and rune cams and completely redesigned team fight GUIs.

The community wants a tournament that runs on time, on non garbage internet, run by competent people. No one is asking for anything fancy at all. PGL decided they wanted to over do things, they made a poor choice. We're not complicated, give us DotA that isn't a dumpster fire, that's it.
LiquidDota Staff
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 07 2016 04:02 GMT
#407
On June 07 2016 13:01 LimitSEA wrote:
https://twitter.com/NahazDota/status/740028733994598400

It'll be refined and hopefully decluttered. It has a lot of potential, and it's not perfect, but it could be awesome.


They need to remove the Items and make things a little smaller. And some things need to be a little clearer. Once that's done, we'll get used to it.
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
June 07 2016 04:02 GMT
#408
On June 07 2016 13:00 Kamisamanachi wrote:
Tfw community shits on every production value pgl tries to being in

Tfw community also bashes the low production value in almost 90℅of the tournemanets

When will community be satisfied?

Never. Too big a community for us all to be happy. I can understand not liking some of the stuff on Battleview, as it is a little cluttered. But things like the rune cam and courier cam? I don't quite understand thr hate. I find it useful.
Long live the King of Wings
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
June 07 2016 04:03 GMT
#409
On June 07 2016 13:02 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 13:00 Kamisamanachi wrote:
Tfw community shits on every production value pgl tries to being in

Tfw community also bashes the low production value in almost 90℅of the tournemanets

When will community be satisfied?


No one in the community asked for courier cams and rune cams and completely redesigned team fight GUIs.

The community wants a tournament that runs on time, on non garbage internet, run by competent people. No one is asking for anything fancy at all. PGL decided they wanted to over do things, they made a poor choice. We're not complicated, give us DotA that isn't a dumpster fire, that's it.

You dislike the things they're doing? Really?
https://soundcloud.com/papercranesdk
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
June 07 2016 04:03 GMT
#410
this panel bores me tho.
WriterXiao8~~
Dysisa
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden2376 Posts
June 07 2016 04:03 GMT
#411
On June 07 2016 13:00 Kamisamanachi wrote:
Tfw community shits on every production value pgl tries to being in

Tfw community also bashes the low production value in almost 90℅of the tournemanets

When will community be satisfied?

There's a difference between stuff like sound errors etc (low production value) and the battleviewer etc ("high" production value), I don't think it's weird that people could complain about both? Might be hard to believe, but some of us just want to watch some fucking Dota. I don't need or want any of this fluff.
fuck dota 2 | "i don't like ppd, and i really look forward to one day beating that motherfucker" -Swindlemelonzz, my personal hero
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
June 07 2016 04:04 GMT
#412
On June 07 2016 13:02 LimitSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 13:00 Kamisamanachi wrote:
Tfw community shits on every production value pgl tries to being in

Tfw community also bashes the low production value in almost 90℅of the tournemanets

When will community be satisfied?

Never. Too big a community for us all to be happy. I can understand not liking some of the stuff on Battleview, as it is a little cluttered. But things like the rune cam and courier cam? I don't quite understand thr hate. I find it useful.


People like to complain because it makes them feel like they are heard. It'll never stop, it's just about sifting through the bullshit to find the actually useful constructive criticism.
SUNSFANNED
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
June 07 2016 04:05 GMT
#413
Yeah but lots of other people want innovations in production and not just a purely decent game (which is fine). Never settle.
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-07 04:06:41
June 07 2016 04:06 GMT
#414
I think the main problem with the PGL viewer is it rips away screen real estate we're used to and makes it a lot harder to detect the information we have always historically tracked who is winning a fight in favor of information that...really doesn't tell you who is winning a fight at first blush (total team hp? really?). Hopefully it gets refined.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
June 07 2016 04:06 GMT
#415
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
honeylover
Profile Joined July 2015
82 Posts
June 07 2016 04:06 GMT
#416
I actually really like the production value with the split screen, live battle report, etc.
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
June 07 2016 04:07 GMT
#417
On June 07 2016 13:06 Daralii wrote:
https://twitter.com/kpoptosisDota/status/740030111513075712


Bingo
LiquidDota Staff
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-07 04:08:59
June 07 2016 04:07 GMT
#418
On June 07 2016 13:00 Kamisamanachi wrote:
Tfw community shits on every production value pgl tries to being in

Tfw community also bashes the low production value in almost 90℅of the tournaments

When will community be satisfied?


no one has ever bashed low production value when they didnt added enough gimmicks.

to me, it always reflects badly on a tournament when you have tech problems, delays, sound problems and no idea what to do between the games, i.e. coming soon screens, but then go out of your way to make flashy things. the first priority has to be getting the basics right and sadly, pgl had about an hour delay, pc crashes in the first game and some weird sound decisions plus i dont know when game 2 will commence. but hey, they have a convoluted battle screen and 50 picture in picture modes that show nothing interesting. just a bad allocation of ressources.
SinTio
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany871 Posts
June 07 2016 04:07 GMT
#419
On June 07 2016 13:00 Kamisamanachi wrote:
Tfw community shits on every production value pgl tries to being in

Tfw community also bashes the low production value in almost 90℅of the tournemanets

When will community be satisfied?


Most of what they are doing is useless 90% of the time though.

Rune cam -> Thanks but I can see who picks up what rune in the text log at the left, if anything important is going to happen the main cam will shot it anyway.

Courier cam -> I actually don't get why it exists.

Battleview -> Too much stuff waaaay too spread out. The standard healthbars at the top are way easier to digest and include buybacks happening (buyback status is also easier to see in the top left). With the standard UI my eyes switch between gameplay and the top bar, with the battleview I have to look all over the place to then see way too much information that I don't need only to have to search for the one point I was looking for. Plus because it takes so much screenspace it forces the camera to zoom out whenever it is active. Also I don't get what the teamhp bars are useful for.
I'd actually find it more useful before fights to get an overview over cooldowns and items
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-07 04:08:48
June 07 2016 04:07 GMT
#420
The thing is people are having hard time accepting things the way they look as they are being suddenly brought in ..this is the first day of that battle view thing. I am pretty sure it will grow on many people as time passes by, but the hate circle jerk against these things will even make those who loved it at first sight, hate it afterwards .
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
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