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DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
May 12 2016 15:41 GMT
#801
I think Icefrog just likes to watch 2 fully itemised teams fight.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66201 Posts
May 12 2016 15:41 GMT
#802
if newbee dont ban phoenix..
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
May 12 2016 15:42 GMT
#803
This time Newbee wants their hand on the OP bird.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66201 Posts
May 12 2016 15:42 GMT
#804
i'm pretty sure newbee is playing into OG's hands with this phoenix first pick and giving away wisp
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
May 12 2016 15:42 GMT
#805
On May 13 2016 00:41 konadora wrote:
if newbee dont ban phoenix..

Instead we get a reversal.

Kaka phoenix vs Cr1t wisp and Fly probably-Dazzle.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Moobutt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1996 Posts
May 12 2016 15:42 GMT
#806
That's the earliest Tide pick I've seen in a long while
3/22/16 The Day EG Died
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
May 12 2016 15:42 GMT
#807
On May 13 2016 00:32 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 00:31 the bear jew wrote:
It was a close game, I understand OG's draft, just didn't execute it well enough.


It was a failure in the Ban-Phase. Wisp + Bristle is the strong pairing they use. (MVP uses it really well too.) The offlaner gets the Ancients and you end up with 3 farmed cores.


If they weren't so far behind, would of gone better. Void with farm still good kill potential solo even without chronosphere, the ult sets up devastating egg from phoenix and earth splitter from elder titan, which is a huge amount of damage. Razor tank, drains damage, more aoe from his ult, centaur ult to disengage from the triple melee core from newbee.

It was a decent idea, didn't work out in practice.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
May 12 2016 15:42 GMT
#808
confirmed fly only play the op hero of the patch

dazzle and now phoenix lol
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
May 12 2016 15:43 GMT
#809
Time for Kaka to show how broken this hero really is
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-12 15:43:18
May 12 2016 15:43 GMT
#810
That picture is not fucking accurate guys lol ur all so gullible

look at the ability useage it's bugged to include a fight that the guy watched 3 times
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bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 12 2016 15:43 GMT
#811
OG got this , wisp is the hero they love most
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
May 12 2016 15:43 GMT
#812
Kphoeni Tide, KAKA Phoenix

Well, the game is won, folks.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
May 12 2016 15:43 GMT
#813
So it is streak gold that is really really broken because that's the only reason you might get a massive swing like that.
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bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 12 2016 15:43 GMT
#814
On May 13 2016 00:43 Sn0_Man wrote:
That picture is not fucking accurate guys lol ur all so gullible

look at the ability useage it's bugged to include a fight that the guy watched 3 times


GOOD CATCH , i figured it isnt real , thats why i asked if someone can look at the replay
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11871 Posts
May 12 2016 15:44 GMT
#815
On May 13 2016 00:42 the bear jew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 00:32 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On May 13 2016 00:31 the bear jew wrote:
It was a close game, I understand OG's draft, just didn't execute it well enough.


It was a failure in the Ban-Phase. Wisp + Bristle is the strong pairing they use. (MVP uses it really well too.) The offlaner gets the Ancients and you end up with 3 farmed cores.


If they weren't so far behind, would of gone better. Void with farm still good kill potential solo even without chronosphere, the ult sets up devastating egg from phoenix and earth splitter from elder titan, which is a huge amount of damage. Razor tank, drains damage, more aoe from his ult, centaur ult to disengage from the triple melee core from newbee.

It was a decent idea, didn't work out in practice.


They also have a hard time killing void due to dodging 1/4 of all damage with his skill and then cent disengage when time for full pull back.
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-12 15:47:11
May 12 2016 15:44 GMT
#816
On May 13 2016 00:40 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 00:38 Dracolich70 wrote:
On May 13 2016 00:35 FakeDeath wrote:
Ver was right though.

The gold gain and rubberband mechanic is just so ridiculous.

When OG lost the first big teamfight in mid in Game 1, they had to fight so MUCH harder to win because of 1 mistake.
Same in Game 2. Newbee got a bit cocky and got team wipe and the game dragged out for another 30 mins.

Team that gain that lead should not get punished so hard.
Game 1 was much different. First of all OG was far ahead, second of all Newbee had BH.


OG got far ahead because they were dominating the early-mid game.

All of that got erased because they messed up their teamfight at mid lane.

The risk-reward ratio just isn't fair IMO.
You can say that, but it was because they were so far ahead, dumstering Newbee on end, while Newbee had BH. It is the best case scenario for the rubberband+BH mechanic, that made the swing, which essentially was much due to OG being too overconfident. They were still far ahead though, and it was more a matter of not throwing winning still.

Without rubberband, we would just have early-mid timings and ganking heroes.
LiangHao
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-12 15:46:30
May 12 2016 15:45 GMT
#817
On May 13 2016 00:43 Sn0_Man wrote:
That picture is not fucking accurate guys lol ur all so gullible

look at the ability useage it's bugged to include a fight that the guy watched 3 times

Well, good catch, divide all numbers by 3 then.

EDIT: Wait, OG gives away both bird AND disruptor?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
May 12 2016 15:46 GMT
#818
On May 13 2016 00:39 Vertical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 00:35 FakeDeath wrote:
Ver was right though.

The gold gain and rubberband mechanic is just so ridiculous.

When OG lost the first big teamfight in mid in Game 1, they had to fight so MUCH harder to win because of 1 mistake.
Same in Game 2. Newbee got a bit cocky and got team wipe and the game dragged out for another 30 mins.

Team that gain that lead should not get punished so hard.

But without the rubberband we could have 50 mins game that is already end at 10 min. With rubberband, it never really finishes. So really a double edge issue here.


I wouldn't mind it if lane dominators became relevant again.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 12 2016 15:46 GMT
#819
Haha, Newbee didn't want a repeat of the Huskar effect.

Though I've not been sold on OG's Wisp play since Summit 4. We'll see if they have a new wrinkle.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66201 Posts
May 12 2016 15:46 GMT
#820
huskar ban :p
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