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ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
May 12 2016 15:28 GMT
#761
On May 13 2016 00:26 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 00:25 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On May 13 2016 00:23 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
aghs+moonshard void could've saved this game.


Meh. Aghs is overrated these days.

Diffusal/Manta fell off too hard to be relevant lategame.

I mean, aghs now does nothing but reduce cd.

It's pretty bad.

It doesn't prolong the sphere duration?

My bad then, didn't play Void in recent patches.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
May 12 2016 15:28 GMT
#762
On May 13 2016 00:28 hunter_x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 00:26 Yurie wrote:
On May 13 2016 00:25 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Notail's build was gamelosing.

Refresh+Aghs with Void Combo is a must.


I honestly think that build is game losing unless it is after min 40 when other people also have damage items and abilities. Early and mid game you need the damage on the void.

the build was not the problem, notail was underfarmed as fuck.


Can't blame him, he's playing a Razer.
Getting too old for this..
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
May 12 2016 15:29 GMT
#763
[image loading]

Guys, OG were not ahead by any amount of gold in that fight.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11868 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-12 15:30:31
May 12 2016 15:30 GMT
#764
On May 13 2016 00:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
[image loading]

Guys, OG were not ahead by any amount of gold in that fight.


That also shows why they lost late game. Razor does not handle late game very well. Supports does more by then unless the razor has snowballed and is an item ahead of enemy team carry.
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
May 12 2016 15:30 GMT
#765
On May 13 2016 00:28 hunter_x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 00:26 Yurie wrote:
On May 13 2016 00:25 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Notail's build was gamelosing.

Refresh+Aghs with Void Combo is a must.


I honestly think that build is game losing unless it is after min 40 when other people also have damage items and abilities. Early and mid game you need the damage on the void.

the build was not the problem, notail was underfarmed as fuck.


Yeah.

If Notail go AC+Butterfly carry build instead of Boots lvl 2, game would have been different.

Miracle Chrono were all on point
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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-12 15:30:47
May 12 2016 15:30 GMT
#766
On May 13 2016 00:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Guys, OG were not ahead by any amount of gold in that fight.

Please, don't destroy my excuses for losing my pub games, thanks.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
May 12 2016 15:30 GMT
#767
What's the answer to this tank meta? When will Zeus make a come back? =/
Getting too old for this..
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
May 12 2016 15:31 GMT
#768
Elder Titan is one answer.

The other answer has yet to be pick, but has been said before.
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
May 12 2016 15:31 GMT
#769
There was so much need for damage by OG.
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
May 12 2016 15:31 GMT
#770
On May 13 2016 00:30 Danzo wrote:
What's the answer to this tank meta? When will Zeus make a come back? =/

Timber, AA would both be fine.

But OG picked razor.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 12 2016 15:31 GMT
#771
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2357832186

OG actually did almost 16k more total hero damage. But Newbee healed 27.6k vs OG's 10k.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-12 15:32:06
May 12 2016 15:31 GMT
#772
On May 13 2016 00:27 Vaelone wrote:
I just don't think this new Void in general is that functional of a 1 position, does pretty much the same thing as 1 and 3, at least with the build he went for here.


Diffusal/Manta is essentially a timing build on this hero. Also players are being hardheaded and trying to splice the offlane build into the 1 position. Too item-constrained to split the difference.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
May 12 2016 15:31 GMT
#773
It was a close game, I understand OG's draft, just didn't execute it well enough.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-12 15:32:16
May 12 2016 15:31 GMT
#774
On May 13 2016 00:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
[image loading]

Guys, OG were not ahead by any amount of gold in that fight.

According to track dota, Newbee were ahead by 5k at 44 minutes (right before the fight)
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 12 2016 15:32 GMT
#775
On May 13 2016 00:30 Danzo wrote:
What's the answer to this tank meta? When will Zeus make a come back? =/


He's far too easy to shut down in lane.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11868 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-12 15:33:10
May 12 2016 15:32 GMT
#776
On May 13 2016 00:30 Danzo wrote:
What's the answer to this tank meta? When will Zeus make a come back? =/


Enigma is a good counter as well with her third ability being % based. Necrolyte is decent since he can erase you at 50 % hp. Mostly it is about kiting and chipping them down. Not big aoe ultis they live through.

Elder Titan + Phoenix are good against it. They just lacked that extra omph on the mid hero.

Either get a hyper dps carry that just straight up kills them or aoe % based abilites. Or push early.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
May 12 2016 15:32 GMT
#777
On May 13 2016 00:28 Danzo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 00:28 hunter_x wrote:
On May 13 2016 00:26 Yurie wrote:
On May 13 2016 00:25 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Notail's build was gamelosing.

Refresh+Aghs with Void Combo is a must.


I honestly think that build is game losing unless it is after min 40 when other people also have damage items and abilities. Early and mid game you need the damage on the void.

the build was not the problem, notail was underfarmed as fuck.


Can't blame him, he's playing a Razer.

lol, tell that fata haha
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
May 12 2016 15:32 GMT
#778
On May 13 2016 00:31 Taf the Ghost wrote:
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2357832186

OG actually did almost 16k more total hero damage. But Newbee healed 27.6k vs OG's 10k.

I don't know if it takes into account all the blocked damage from crimson or pipe.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
May 12 2016 15:32 GMT
#779
Newbees picks were pretty similar to OGs first game versus [A].
LiangHao
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
May 12 2016 15:32 GMT
#780
On May 13 2016 00:31 Faruko wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On May 13 2016 00:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
[image loading]

Guys, OG were not ahead by any amount of gold in that fight.

According to track dota, Newbee were ahead by 5k at 44 minutes (right before the fight)

That's my point.

It's not rubberband gold that is ridiculous, it's all gold in general.
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