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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
May 12 2016 15:22 GMT
#741
On May 13 2016 00:20 hunter_x wrote:
man can someone finally win? i want to watch liquid

The next series can be good and disappointing at the same time given this first one.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-12 15:22:56
May 12 2016 15:22 GMT
#742
On May 13 2016 00:22 hunter_x wrote:
notail is not good on razor thats for sure

Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11868 Posts
May 12 2016 15:23 GMT
#743
On May 13 2016 00:22 hunter_x wrote:
notail is not good on razor thats for sure


I would say only Fata is good on him. That is probably mostly to do with how they draft and play around it. The hero isn't strong at 60 min since dmg drain becomes worse as hero dmg and mobility climbs.
Zenmx
Profile Joined April 2015
Sweden163 Posts
May 12 2016 15:23 GMT
#744
Phoenix did as much damage as lifestealer that game.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-12 15:23:57
May 12 2016 15:23 GMT
#745
Look, had Elder Titan farm that game, they could kill all of Newbee's team in two seconds. That hero is the best hero late game when you have the ability to keep people in one place.
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
May 12 2016 15:23 GMT
#746
aghs+moonshard void could've saved this game.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
May 12 2016 15:23 GMT
#747
phoenix could have bought a veil
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
May 12 2016 15:24 GMT
#748
On May 13 2016 00:23 Azarkon wrote:
Look, had Elder Titan farm that game, they could kill all of Newbee's team in two seconds. That hero is literally the best hero late game when you have the ability to keep people in one place.

Shame Newbee denied him the time and space to do so right
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-12 15:26:38
May 12 2016 15:24 GMT
#749
On May 13 2016 00:22 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 00:21 Logo wrote:
OG was always playing this game on a timer I think. They were relying so heavily on Phoenix for damage which is only going to work for so long.

with lower bkb charges it does a TON of damage against those 3 tanky heroes

i think the draft was okay, could be better but problem was more with the execution and newbee playing so damn well

hoping OG wins the next one


The problem more is that Supernova doesn't scale and late game you give your team way more options to move and position to avoid the Sun Ray or bait it out. Also the base damage portion of Sun Ray (which is 270 pure damage) doesn't scale which is an important part of the killing power of Sun Ray (you lose 50% of your hp from the ray AND take 270 pure damage which early on is enough to make any hero pretty much dead).
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deathzz
Profile Joined September 2011
669 Posts
May 12 2016 15:24 GMT
#750
On May 13 2016 00:24 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 00:23 Azarkon wrote:
Look, had Elder Titan farm that game, they could kill all of Newbee's team in two seconds. That hero is literally the best hero late game when you have the ability to keep people in one place.

Shame Newbee denied him the time and space to do so right

But Newbee=China team=OG threw that game/played bad
Korean overlords
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
May 12 2016 15:25 GMT
#751
Put down that stupid firebird.
Sunray need some nerf.

Play your best
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
May 12 2016 15:25 GMT
#752
Notail's build was gamelosing.

Refresh+Aghs with Void Combo is a must.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
May 12 2016 15:25 GMT
#753
On May 13 2016 00:23 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
aghs+moonshard void could've saved this game.


Meh. Aghs is overrated these days.

Diffusal/Manta fell off too hard to be relevant lategame.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
May 12 2016 15:26 GMT
#754
On May 13 2016 00:25 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 00:23 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
aghs+moonshard void could've saved this game.


Meh. Aghs is overrated these days.

Diffusal/Manta fell off too hard to be relevant lategame.

I mean, aghs now does nothing but reduce cd.

It's pretty bad.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-12 15:26:48
May 12 2016 15:26 GMT
#755
On May 13 2016 00:25 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Notail's build was gamelosing.

Refresh+Aghs with Void Combo is a must.

Reminder that razor aghs ult is literally only "-1 armor, -1 armor, -1 armor" against crimson guard
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11868 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-12 15:29:17
May 12 2016 15:26 GMT
#756
On May 13 2016 00:25 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Notail's build was gamelosing.

Refresh+Aghs with Void Combo is a must.


I honestly think that build is game losing unless it is after min 40 when other people also have damage items and abilities. Early and mid game you need the damage on the void.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 12 2016 15:27 GMT
#757
On May 13 2016 00:26 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 00:25 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Notail's build was gamelosing.

Refresh+Aghs with Void Combo is a must.


I honestly think that build is game losing unless it is after min 40 when other people also have damage items and abilities. Early and mid game you need the damage on the void.

its gamelosing the instant any hero on the other team has crimson guard lol
i mean i guess if u chrono the bristle but still
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Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
May 12 2016 15:27 GMT
#758
I just don't think this new Void in general is that functional of a 1 position, does pretty much the same thing as 1 and 3, at least with the build he went for here.

Although looking at dotabuff Miracle did a lot more there than I thought he would.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
May 12 2016 15:28 GMT
#759
Tbh, I did not expect OG at this level, they played very well.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
May 12 2016 15:28 GMT
#760
On May 13 2016 00:26 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 00:25 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Notail's build was gamelosing.

Refresh+Aghs with Void Combo is a must.


I honestly think that build is game losing unless it is after min 40 when other people also have damage items and abilities. Early and mid game you need the damage on the void.

the build was not the problem, notail was underfarmed as fuck.
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