I know Miracle is good, we all know, but this is ridiculous
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Xurr
Germany313 Posts
I know Miracle is good, we all know, but this is ridiculous | ||
weiliem
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GiveMeYourtTots
990 Posts
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BlazingGlory
Bulgaria855 Posts
On May 15 2016 01:56 Taf the Ghost wrote: http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2362849384 I think we all guessed NoTail was pretty worthless that game. Find one player that wont be worthless in a game like this on Brewmaster. | ||
babysimba
10466 Posts
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Kabras
Romania3508 Posts
On May 15 2016 01:59 Xurr wrote: Cool Liquid won, panel is talking 5 mins now and they have yet to even talk about them. I know Miracle is good, we all know, but this is ridiculous and you get more miracle lol | ||
intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On May 15 2016 02:00 BlazingGlory wrote: Find one player that wont be worthless in a game like this on Brewmaster. Not even Mu could make it. | ||
Dracolich70
Denmark3820 Posts
On May 15 2016 01:59 weiliem wrote: TL won 2-1 in Group stage.OG lost 2-0 twice to liquid already this tournament. It's gonna be hillarious if OG somehow win against liquid in the finals.... | ||
lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On May 15 2016 02:00 babysimba wrote: Pretty sure manta replacing bloodstone is the best end game tinker build if you are confident of not dying. Manta what for tho? Illusions are kinda irrelevant. | ||
Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On May 15 2016 01:59 weiliem wrote: OG lost 2-0 twice to liquid already this tournament. It's gonna be hillarious if OG somehow win against liquid in the finals.... actually the first win vs OG was 2-1 | ||
ZeaL.
United States5955 Posts
On May 15 2016 01:57 lolfail9001 wrote: Faster respawn time is irrelevant unless you get 4 charges every other level, he had to use buyback despite having about 20 charges as you saw. Rearm costs 300 mana, mend gives 160, soul ring gives 150. It makes Rearm literally free. How many item slots does this tinker have? | ||
intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
Not enough. | ||
lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Well, true, you can throw out soul ring for hex or eblade. Greaves still give about 5 times more mana than bloodstone though. | ||
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TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
But as long as the games are good, it should be a good time for all. | ||
Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
Greaves is probably a bit more mana but not all that much even if we're just looking at mana by itself and ignore the rest. | ||
Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
On May 15 2016 02:00 GiveMeYourtTots wrote: notail is so mediocre. Yes . just like S4 | ||
lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On May 15 2016 02:16 Toadesstern wrote: idk man, 20 charges bloodstone is 20 mana/s for the charges alone. You need a second for the act of rearming + whatever you're doing after you rearmed. And then you still get the +200% mana regen per sec from the bloodstone itself. Obviously ignoring other items that give manaregen because that'd stay the same. Greaves is probably a bit more mana but not all that much even if we're just looking at mana by itself and ignore the rest. I mean, tinker in that phase of game spends about 2 seconds between rearms, 3 with march. 160/2 = 80 160/3 = ~56 Good luck doing that with bloodstone. Obviously if you're doing stuff even quicker with shift queues, you can manage in 1.5 seconds, so over 100 mana regen. Heh. | ||
hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
On May 15 2016 02:34 lolfail9001 wrote: I mean, tinker in that phase of game spends about 2 seconds between rearms, 3 with march. 160/2 = 80 160/3 = ~56 Good luck doing that with bloodstone. Obviously if you're doing stuff even quicker with shift queues, you can manage in 1.5 seconds, so over 100 mana regen. Heh. well you can do your stupid math all day, i think pros know why they buy bloodstone;) | ||
Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
The 2sec for the eblade+dagon+PressR combo is probably already conservative since rearm is actually .75 and not exactly 1 sec iirc. So 2 secs or 1.5secs seem likely. But again, that means that you're literally nonstop standing still, re-arming, shooting your eblade, shooting your dagon etc. Have a second inbetween because you're moving/blinking around for positioning for a second just for the sake of getting an overview of what's currently going on during the chaos of battle and I'd say it's pretty negligible because you will have those short moments inbetween. Walking for a second just to get an idea of what's going on etc. Or maybe I'm not pro enough~ | ||
LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
a real decider of who the big swinging dick is right now | ||
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