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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-15 06:50:42
May 15 2016 06:34 GMT
#5181
On May 15 2016 08:24 Dracolich70 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2016 07:08 Shergal wrote:
Greaves Tinker is good. Sheep in this thread are just too eager to accept everything pros do when most of the time pros just brainlessly copy what they see in pubs
Yeah, Greaves over 20+ charge blood stone is awesome. Because instant mana is better than instant respawn, superior flat mana and health pool, suicide, team heal, if you die, and health and mana regen, just because... And lets add salt to injury by throwing in a soulring to top it all and sacrifice either Eth, blade, Dagger, Sheepstick, BoT, or a Dagon 5.

You are correct, why not be upstream and do the retarded thing.

Bloodstone does not give instant respawn unless you are steamrolling the game in which case why do you even die on tinker of all heroes. Super health/mana pool are irrelevant when once again, greaves give way more mana, and the situation in which case raw HP can do job are quite niche, even if i'll admit it can be useful.

And Tinker does not fucking sell soul ring until 6th slot, if you've ever played him, so he would have soul ring until dagon (or even sheep) Plenty more of spam i'd say.
On May 15 2016 05:21 hunter_x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2016 03:45 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 15 2016 02:54 hunter_x wrote:
On May 15 2016 02:34 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 15 2016 02:16 Toadesstern wrote:
idk man, 20 charges bloodstone is 20 mana/s for the charges alone. You need a second for the act of rearming + whatever you're doing after you rearmed. And then you still get the +200% mana regen per sec from the bloodstone itself. Obviously ignoring other items that give manaregen because that'd stay the same.
Greaves is probably a bit more mana but not all that much even if we're just looking at mana by itself and ignore the rest.

I mean, tinker in that phase of game spends about 2 seconds between rearms, 3 with march.

160/2 = 80

160/3 = ~56

Good luck doing that with bloodstone.

Obviously if you're doing stuff even quicker with shift queues, you can manage in 1.5 seconds, so over 100 mana regen. Heh.

well you can do your stupid math all day, i think pros know why they buy bloodstone;)


And i think they do so because someone else did so and they copied the build without thinking for half a second.

They're pr0s after all.

Lol yeah sure, pros dont think about items at all. Are you fucking kidding me? There are many reasons to buy a bloodstone on certain heroes. But arguing with a guy who does nothing besides writing in this forum all day will not lead to anything.

The one reason to buy bloodstone on any hero in the game is mana regen. Rest are small goodies, better covered by better items. If there is an item that does the job better plus has dispel to go with it, why the hell not go with it?

EDIT: Either way, true grand finals hype. I mean, OG vs Newbee obviously.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
May 15 2016 07:17 GMT
#5182
damn skt vs clg will end just in time for epicenter

the esports never ends
ffxiv enjoyer
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
May 15 2016 07:23 GMT
#5183
On May 15 2016 16:17 Stancel wrote:
damn skt vs clg will end just in time for epicenter

the esports never ends

big ups to SKT for 3-0ing
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
May 15 2016 07:51 GMT
#5184
On May 15 2016 15:34 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2016 08:24 Dracolich70 wrote:
On May 15 2016 07:08 Shergal wrote:
Greaves Tinker is good. Sheep in this thread are just too eager to accept everything pros do when most of the time pros just brainlessly copy what they see in pubs
Yeah, Greaves over 20+ charge blood stone is awesome. Because instant mana is better than instant respawn, superior flat mana and health pool, suicide, team heal, if you die, and health and mana regen, just because... And lets add salt to injury by throwing in a soulring to top it all and sacrifice either Eth, blade, Dagger, Sheepstick, BoT, or a Dagon 5.

You are correct, why not be upstream and do the retarded thing.

Bloodstone does not give instant respawn unless you are steamrolling the game in which case why do you even die on tinker of all heroes. Super health/mana pool are irrelevant when once again, greaves give way more mana, and the situation in which case raw HP can do job are quite niche, even if i'll admit it can be useful.

And Tinker does not fucking sell soul ring until 6th slot, if you've ever played him, so he would have soul ring until dagon (or even sheep) Plenty more of spam i'd say.
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2016 05:21 hunter_x wrote:
On May 15 2016 03:45 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 15 2016 02:54 hunter_x wrote:
On May 15 2016 02:34 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 15 2016 02:16 Toadesstern wrote:
idk man, 20 charges bloodstone is 20 mana/s for the charges alone. You need a second for the act of rearming + whatever you're doing after you rearmed. And then you still get the +200% mana regen per sec from the bloodstone itself. Obviously ignoring other items that give manaregen because that'd stay the same.
Greaves is probably a bit more mana but not all that much even if we're just looking at mana by itself and ignore the rest.

I mean, tinker in that phase of game spends about 2 seconds between rearms, 3 with march.

160/2 = 80

160/3 = ~56

Good luck doing that with bloodstone.

Obviously if you're doing stuff even quicker with shift queues, you can manage in 1.5 seconds, so over 100 mana regen. Heh.

well you can do your stupid math all day, i think pros know why they buy bloodstone;)


And i think they do so because someone else did so and they copied the build without thinking for half a second.

They're pr0s after all.

Lol yeah sure, pros dont think about items at all. Are you fucking kidding me? There are many reasons to buy a bloodstone on certain heroes. But arguing with a guy who does nothing besides writing in this forum all day will not lead to anything.

The one reason to buy bloodstone on any hero in the game is mana regen. Rest are small goodies, better covered by better items. If there is an item that does the job better plus has dispel to go with it, why the hell not go with it?

EDIT: Either way, true grand finals hype. I mean, OG vs Newbee obviously.

bloodstone also reduce respawn timer
-Terran-
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
May 15 2016 07:53 GMT
#5185
Hoping for a 2-1 for Newbee
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Steelavocado
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2123 Posts
May 15 2016 07:55 GMT
#5186
Wow. Just got back from finals week and a prom that I am too old for but went anyways.

Its time for some 4 am dotes
MIRACLE IS YOUR TI7 CHAMP
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
May 15 2016 07:56 GMT
#5187
And 30 more minutes of delay, good lord
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Steelavocado
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2123 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-15 08:07:29
May 15 2016 08:04 GMT
#5188
On May 15 2016 16:56 plasmidghost wrote:
And 30 more minutes of delay, good lord


Buzz kill.

BTW I expect 2-0 OG. One game close (guessing the second game) and one game stompish (game number 1).

I expect OG to come out with a significant outdraft with next game adjustments are made. I have a feeling newbee is going to forget to ban firebird
MIRACLE IS YOUR TI7 CHAMP
sweatbomb
Profile Joined September 2014
Sweden469 Posts
May 15 2016 08:11 GMT
#5189
Hope OG can pick themselves up and come back for a rematch against Liquid in the finals. Just gotta get through Newbee first.
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
May 15 2016 08:13 GMT
#5190
On May 15 2016 17:04 Steelavocado wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2016 16:56 plasmidghost wrote:
And 30 more minutes of delay, good lord


Buzz kill.

BTW I expect 2-0 OG. One game close (guessing the second game) and one game stompish (game number 1).

I expect OG to come out with a significant outdraft with next game adjustments are made. I have a feeling newbee is going to forget to ban firebird


I feel you are drunk from that Prom of yours !!! go to sleep and watch the vods with no spoilers in the morning .
No way OG stomps newbee this time around , they can 2-0 them but its very unlikely.
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
May 15 2016 08:20 GMT
#5191
finally a delay !
-Terran-
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
May 15 2016 08:22 GMT
#5192
Why is eSports music so cancerous
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
May 15 2016 08:25 GMT
#5193
On May 15 2016 17:22 plasmidghost wrote:
Why is eSports music so cancerous

It's about copyrights I believe.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-15 08:26:35
May 15 2016 08:26 GMT
#5194
Well when you're losing hundreds of thousands of dollars on a LAN, you gotta stop the bleeding somewhere
That applies to the music and the opening
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
May 15 2016 08:27 GMT
#5195
Aliens and Orgy and Yoda saying Team Liquid actually is still funny this time around
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
May 15 2016 08:30 GMT
#5196
Red and Blue !!!

where the DJ Grill
-Terran-
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-15 08:32:02
May 15 2016 08:30 GMT
#5197
I'm legitimately sad they're advertising the Warcraft movie and not Warcraft IV
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
May 15 2016 08:30 GMT
#5198
Are they really sellout on the Warcraft movie. Is that movie Blizzard copyrighted? rofl
Getting too old for this..
maze.
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1392 Posts
May 15 2016 08:30 GMT
#5199
Warcraft trailer out of nowhere.
Misery on Secret: I managed to get kicked twice from the same team before I got my share of the money. 4Head
Snakesneaks
Profile Joined February 2013
Italy2652 Posts
May 15 2016 08:31 GMT
#5200
how much does blizzard pay to ruski for this ad ?
Otacon : Snake, Snake, Snaaaaakkkkeeeeeeeeeee..............
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